yungmack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ------------------ I'm with you on this. He seemed much improved albeit against the Jets. Outside of Clay he didn't really have that chemistry with his WRs. He hit Zay on a pretty quick hitch and I thought it would continue, wrong. Matthews had one big play but to be fair he missed all of the preseason. Thank God for Shady and Tolbert ran well. This team is better than most give credit for. Why the "albeit against the Jets"? Their D is widely considered to be above average and that's the unit the Bills O defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 This is what bothered me with posters here after the game. Another is how I heard that nobody claims TT is great, but many jumped on that narrative after this average performance. Who are the many people claiming TT is "great?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Wow. Guy played good and we can't just be happy. I feel like the minority here. I'm the loser for liking OUR starting QB. There is a crispness to the pace of the offense as well and nobody is mentioning this. I liked what I saw. Tyrod had almost 300 yds combined and was 2/1 and really SHOULD have been 3/0. Great point.The O absolutely looked crisp, they got to the line very quick, everybody was on the same page, it was super refreshing after last year with alot of confusion and late play calls. And man, I agree , I feel the minority too, because I'm rooting for the QB of the team I love , that has led top 12 scoring offenses with no defense. It's sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Crusher gets so much love for his very biased posts why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) A few common statements made by some fans are "TT is what he is", "average at best", "what you see is what you get" etc. Does anyone really believe after watching him yesterday in this new offense that he won't play better in it? That he can't play better? He and the receivers will get more comfortable, his decision making will improve and the coaching staff will learn better what the strengths anweaknesses of everyone on offense are. Edited September 11, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Ummmm. Pass distribution and throw the ball away to avoid sacks. Isn't that Brady's bread and butter? He hasn't and didn't put the team on his back and win games. That's what the great ones do sometimes. Other than that, the Bills got yesterday and have gotten for two seasons good QB play from Taylor. you compared him to Brady, TT did very good. Now we need to see the same for at least 12 more games. A few common statements made by some fans are "TT is what he is", "average at best", "what you see is what you get" etc. Does anyone really believe after watching him yesterday in this new offense that he won't play better in it? That he can't play better? He and the receivers will get more comfortable, his decision making will improve and the coaching staff will learn better what the strengths anweaknesses of everyone on offense are. I'm as sold as I am with Alex Smith being Elite QB's after 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Now see here, after a couple posts with which I actually agree - let's pump the brakes and not read too much into one game - here you go with the agenda again. Who are all these people claiming that TT is great? Link the posts that "jumped on that narrative" or it didn't happen. "Drastically improved" "Proved the doubters wrong" These are comments that have been made that show posters going overboard based off this one solid performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorTime Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Taylor looked like the same QB he has always been, but I have no issues with his play yesterday and the INT wasn't really his fault. He was more than good enough to beat a hapless Jets team. But something tells me his glaring flaws and deficiencies will be on full display next week in Carolina against a much better team and defense. Something tells me your glaring bias will be on full display all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 you compared him to Brady, TT did very good. Now we need to see the same for at least 12 more games. I'm as sold as I am with Alex Smith being Elite QB's after 1 game. Yes I also have a new appreciation for Alex Smith. There comes a point when you admit your wrong and move on. He is what he is a damn good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ------------------ I'm with you on this. He seemed much improved albeit against the Jets. Outside of Clay he didn't really have that chemistry with his WRs. He hit Zay on a pretty quick hitch and I thought it would continue, wrong. Matthews had one big play but to be fair he missed all of the preseason. Thank God for Shady and Tolbert ran well. This team is better than most give credit for. Why the "albeit against the Jets"? Their D is widely considered to be above average and that's the unit the Bills O defeated. Nothing I said was wrong. It was exactly what happened in the game. So, the opposite of wrong. You say he hung in the pocket which is true. He hung in the pocket because he had a tough time examining what he's seeing and doesn't make reads fast enough. He needs to work on that more than anything else. He needs to trust his receivers to be where the play dictates they will be and throw the ball giving them a chance to do something after the catch. He waits til a player is open and thus the play more times than not ends as soon as they make the catch. It wasn't all bad. No one is saying that. There was good and there was bad. Playing the Jets helped in that we could still win with the bad. That's going to change as soon as we play a real team out there. I'm allowed to criticize our qb. Especially when the qb has very real things to criticize. I saw more of the same than much needed improvement and you didn't. Season truly starts next week. This is nonsense. He hangs in the pocket because he's slow to make reads? Huh? And you know this how? BTW, I thought the "flaw" was he bailed out of the pocket because he couldn't make reads. Now it's he doesn't bail out because he can't make the reads. Yeow. As to not "throwing his receivers open," that's patently not true on streak patterns. Where it might be true is the intermediate patterns. But that's pretty much true of every QB. Watch more than the end of day highlights on other QBs and you'll see it's SOP. The ONLY passes that regularly fit your criteria tend to be short ones that are underneath. And for that to work consistently, the QB and the receiver have to be totally in sync like Brady and Edelman. You saw how that didn't work without Edelman against the Chiefs. And TT hasn't a single WR he's familiar with. Matthews might even have had to introduce himself before kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I thought the throw-aways were interesting. I think he would have scrambled instead last season. And he seemed a little more inclined to throw to the middle of the field. But it's only one game. I'd need to see more before proclaiming same-old-Tyrod or new-and-improved-Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) "Drastically improved" "Proved the doubters wrong" These are comments that have been made that show posters going overboard based off this one solid performance. I didn't even think it was that solid of a performance honestly. I saw a lot of the same stuff I've always seen from him that will be capitalized on by a good opponent. I certainly didn't see Taylor unleashed in any way. Seemed like the coaches are still being handicapped in what they can call. Has he ever audibled into a different play based on what he's seeing from the Defense? Does he even have the option? "Drastically improved" "Proved the doubters wrong" These are comments that have been made that show posters going overboard based off this one solid performance. I thought the throw-aways were interesting. I think he would have scrambled instead last season. And he seemed a little more inclined to throw to the middle of the field. But it's only one game. I'd need to see more before proclaiming same-old-Tyrod or new-and-improved-Tyrod. He's always thrown those away. imo he's always been too quick to do so instead of giving his players a chance to make a big play. Why the "albeit against the Jets"? Their D is widely considered to be above average and that's the unit the Bills O defeated.This is nonsense. He hangs in the pocket because he's slow to make reads? Huh? And you know this how? BTW, I thought the "flaw" was he bailed out of the pocket because he couldn't make reads. Now it's he doesn't bail out because he can't make the reads. Yeow. As to not "throwing his receivers open," that's patently not true on streak patterns. Where it might be true is the intermediate patterns. But that's pretty much true of every QB. Watch more than the end of day highlights on other QBs and you'll see it's SOP. The ONLY passes that regularly fit your criteria tend to be short ones that are underneath. And for that to work consistently, the QB and the receiver have to be totally in sync like Brady and Edelman. You saw how that didn't work without Edelman against the Chiefs. And TT hasn't a single WR he's familiar with. Matthews might even have had to introduce himself before kickoff. I think what you're saying is nonsense. Edited September 11, 2017 by likei've Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I saw nothing of the sort. he is still the #1 problem on this offense. The few plays he makes with his legs doesn't add up to the missed throws he has down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I didn't even think it was that solid of a performance honestly. I saw a lot of the same stuff I've always seen from him that will be capitalized on by a good opponent. I certainly didn't see Taylor unleashed in any way. Seemed like the coaches are still being handicapped in what they can call. Has he ever audibled into a different play based on what he's seeing from the Defense? Does he even have the option? He's always thrown those away. imo he's always been too quick to do so instead of giving his players a chance to make a big play. I think what you're saying is nonsense. We've led the league in big plays for the past 2 years in a row, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I didn't even think it was that solid of a performance honestly. I saw a lot of the same stuff I've always seen from him that will be capitalized on by a good opponent. I certainly didn't see Taylor unleashed in any way. Seemed like the coaches are still being handicapped in what they can call. Has he ever audibled into a different play based on what he's seeing from the Defense? Does he even have the option? He's always thrown those away. imo he's always been too quick to do so instead of giving his players a chance to make a big play. I think what you're saying is nonsense. Exactly right. A QB with blinders on who is unable to make adjustments at the line. A QB whom the OC has to Taylor his play calls towards. A few nice plays with his legs and a bunch of mehhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We've led the league in big plays for the past 2 years in a row, though. Not throwing big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Have to give TYGOD credit but lets see how he does on the road or against better quality teams. I believe he's grown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Have to give TYGOD credit but lets see how he does on the road or against better quality teams. I believe he's grown! Sounds fair. Carolina should be a good test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I am not hating on Tyrod the way Crusher or some others are, but let's be real about the "progression". He looked VERY similar to how he's been his whole time here. Still need to convert third downs in the fourth quarter. Still left some points on the field. Overall made a lot of great decisions sprinkled in with some Phantom pocket collapses. He is what he is. Right now, we're fourtunate to have him at QB, we've had much worse during the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Not throwing big plays. In 2015 we were 12th. In 2016 we dropped to 28, but upped the runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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