26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) @JasonLaCanfora Hearing from multiple teams that the Browns are aggressively trying to trade CB Joe Haden. Very motivated to move his contract Edited August 30, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 They will not be out tanked by the NYJ or any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Trade Dareus for him lol s/ CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Can't afford him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He has a cap figure of 11.1 million for the next 2 seasons, and then 10.4 for the 2019 season... if we wanted to pay a CB 11 million, we would have just re-signed the 2-years younger Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 No surprise there...he's definitely gone next year if they don't. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see a team like GB or Dallas interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 He has a cap figure of 11.1 million for the next 2 seasons, and then 10.4 for the 2019 season... if we wanted to pay a CB 11 million, we would have just re-signed the 2-years younger Gilmore. No one suggested that he's coming to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He has a cap figure of 11.1 million for the next 2 seasons, and then 10.4 for the 2019 season... if we wanted to pay a CB 11 million, we would have just re-signed the 2-years younger Gilmore. Is that the cap hit we take on if we traded for him? Or would they be lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He has a cap figure of 11.1 million for the next 2 seasons, and then 10.4 for the 2019 season... if we wanted to pay a CB 11 million, we would have just re-signed the 2-years younger Gilmore. Who has NOT been nearly as good as Hayden. See this thinking is why the Bills have stunk for so long, greatly over valuing average to barely good talent and thinking we need to pay them like HOF players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 Who has NOT been nearly as good as Hayden. See this thinking is why the Bills have stunk for so long, greatly over valuing average to barely good talent and thinking we need to pay them like HOF players. Looks like Belichick overvalued Gilmore too. You'd better let him know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Who has NOT been nearly as good as Hayden. See this thinking is why the Bills have stunk for so long, greatly over valuing average to barely good talent and thinking we need to pay them like HOF players. How has Gilmore not been nearly as good as Haden? I think you'll be pretty shocked if you compare their career performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He hasn't been good in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He hasn't been good in a long time. Yep this but people will think he has because they know is name, Darby and Gilmore both were already at his level and or past it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Call me when we start making moves that look like they're actively trying to make the team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yep this but people will think he has because they know is name, Darby and Gilmore both were already at his level and or past ithe is also very injury prone and his concussion history is frightening. At one point I thought he would never come back from the protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 They will not be out tanked by the NYJ or any other team. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Is that the cap hit we take on if we traded for him? Or would they be lower? @spotracTrading Joe Haden would leave the #Browns dead cap hits of $3.3M in 2017 & $3.2M in 2018. New team acquires cap hits of $11.1M/$11.2M/$10.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Call me when we start making moves that look like they're actively trying to make the team better. Not this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 no one cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 @MaryKayCabot 2015 1st round pick Cameron Erving being shopped by the #Browns, source tells http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/08/cameron_erving_is_being_shoppe.html @RapSheet Ian Rapoport Retweeted Mary Kay Cabot Joe Haden, Brock Osweiler, Cameron Ervin… #Browns trying to move a bunch of big & disappointing contracts. Erving is the player the Browns selected in the '15 draft with the additional 1st round pick they received from the Bills when they selected Watkins in '14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 All 3 suck - wouldn't be surprised if they cut them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Who has NOT been nearly as good as Hayden. See this thinking is why the Bills have stunk for so long, greatly over valuing average to barely good talent and thinking we need to pay them like HOF players. Or fans who undervalue the talent we have here without even actually looking at stats, Joe Haden was drafted 2 years before Gilmore and the stats are not far off at all considering the years played. Even if Gilmore only averaged 40 TAK those 2 seasons he'd have 306, 82 passes defensed (I went with a low ball 10 per season), 2 INT per season would be up to 18. Joe Haden 377 Tackles, 2 sacks, 100 passes defensed, 19 INT, 1 TD, 4 FF Stephon Gilmore 226 Tackles, 0 sacks, 62 passes defensed, 14 INT, 0 TD, 4 FF Edited August 29, 2017 by BuffaloBillsGospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Or fans who undervalue the talent we have here without even actually looking at stats, Joe Haden was drafted 2 years before Gilmore and the stats are not far off at all considering the years played. Joe Haden 377 Tackles, 2 sacks, 100 passes defensed, 19 INT, 1 TD, 4 FF Stephon Gilmore 226 Tackles, 0 sacks, 62 passes defensed, 14 INT, 0 TD, 4 FF Yeah, but Gilmore's obviously afraid to tackle and that's what makes him worthless. Edited August 29, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Haden had some injury issues healthy I would take him on a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 @RapSheet Source: The #Browns have cut Joe Haden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/04/why_joe_haden_probably_saved_h.html It's about saving his job playing through his injuries but makes sense why he wasn't the same. Now idk how he has looked in TC /preseason but before his injuries he was a top player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Juggernaut Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Wow.....The Browns are not messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 @Browns Statements from Hue Jackson and Sashi Brown: 8:01 AM - 30 Aug 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) He is way too injury prone for that contract, and hasn't been a solid starter in years. But he's a good guy. Really embraced the city of Cleveland. I predict Belichik will sign him for a low contract. He has a thing for Urban's former Florida players. Edited August 30, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 @AdamSchefter 1/2 Former Browns CB Joe Haden is not subject to waivers and is free to sign with another team after 4 pm today. And he will. Joe Haden's agent Drew Rosenhaus on his client: "Tons of interest in him. He will have a new deal with another team by tomorrow afternoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Was it worth the cap hit for the Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROONDOGG55 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 100% signing with a proven team. We have 0% chance at signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Get your lowball offers ready Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Looks like Belichick overvalued Gilmore too. You'd better let him know. He'll figure it out himself soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Was it worth the cap hit for the Browns? Yep. They are loading up for next year and an extended run, and know Haden will certainly not be there next year. Take your medicine now, and free up the room for next year. I highly doubt he is being designated as a Post June 1 cut, they will take entire hit this year. And dont forget, they have $18M freeing up next with Brock gone, and looks like they have a cost controlled QB for the next 5 years...looking good in Cleveland. Edited August 30, 2017 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 @AdamSchefter Two teams expected to have strong interest in Joe Haden are the Saints and Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 @AdamSchefter 1/2 Former Browns CB Joe Haden is not subject to waivers and is free to sign with another team after 4 pm today. And he will. Joe Haden's agent Drew Rosenhaus on his client: "Tons of interest in him. He will have a new deal with another team by tomorrow afternoon." Don't know much about Hayden. Is he more of a man or zone CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Yep. They are loading up for next year and an extended run, and know Haden will certainly not be there next year. Take your medicine now, and free up the room for next year. I highly doubt he is being designated as a Post June 1 cut, they will take entire hit this year. And dont forget, they have $18M freeing up next with Brock gone, and looks like they have a cost controlled QB for the next 5 years...looking good in Cleveland. Yeah I totally agree with you, some people want to continue to laugh at the Browns but I love what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Don't know much about Hayden. Is he more of a man or zone CB?man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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