SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 So is the mother of Dragons on the ropes here? She has lost 3 allies in 3 straight weeks. release the dragons On the ropes? IMO hardly. Do you think Cersei will sit there waiting for her to attack Kings Landing or send her army to Dragonstone? The Dragon gets shot at once that Ballista is all but ash. Do you think the first shot will do it? Horrible writing if it did. I don't think there are gonna be three dragons to ride, after all. It's been clearly foreshadowed that a weapon is gonna take down at least one of them. Up until that point, I was shared the idea that Tyrion would ride the third one give how he bonded with them when he set two of them free. On another note, didn't Jaime once say that poison is a woman's weapon? I'm on the Tyrion is a dragon rider wagon, I just haven't seen enough to say he's a Targaryn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 I don't think there are gonna be three dragons to ride, after all. It's been clearly foreshadowed that a weapon is gonna take down at least one of them. Up until that point, I was shared the idea that Tyrion would ride the third one give how he bonded with them when he set two of them free. Or my wacky theory. Recall last night's introductions where Sir Davos brings up that Jon was stabbed in the heart, only to be shushed. Later Dany asks Tyrion what Davos meant by stabbed in the heart. Recall Cersei's grand plan for felling the dragons. I'm thinking Jon Snow-Stark-Targarian's dragon will be mortally wounded and resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I don't think there are gonna be three dragons to ride, after all. It's been clearly foreshadowed that a weapon is gonna take down at least one of them. Up until that point, I was shared the idea that Tyrion would ride the third one give how he bonded with them when he set two of them free. On another note, didn't Jaime once say that poison is a woman's weapon? Poison is a woman's weapon, in traditional literature. Men use, and die by, the sword; women, poison or the noose. That's why The Medea (Euripides, not Tyler Perry) was so scandalous at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Or my wacky theory. Recall last night's introductions where Sir Davos brings up that Jon was stabbed in the heart, only to be shushed. Later Dany asks Tyrion what Davos meant by stabbed in the heart. Recall Cersei's grand plan for felling the dragons. I'm thinking Jon Snow-Stark-Targarian's dragon will be mortally wounded and resurrected. We're getting an ice dragon by the end of the season, the way you're pitching it happening is a good bet. Snow goes down, one dragon goes down. Snow gets resurrected by Dondarrion and the dragon gets resurrected by the Night King. I've been guessing that sort of outcome for awhile now - and we're seeing enough foreshadowing to support it I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I was happy the episode spent a lot of time on Jon's "visit." I immediately pictured Mance telling Stannis "I will not bend a knee" when Jon refused to do so for Dany. The free folk left an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I was happy the episode spent a lot of time on Jon's "visit." I immediately pictured Mance telling Stannis "I will not bend a knee" when Jon refused to do so for Dany. The free folk left an impression. So, Snow is going to have to bring a wight back for Dany to see, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) So, Snow is going to have to bring a wight back for Dany to see, isn't he? I think so as it's the only way he can prove it to Dany who he desperately needs. He'll pry lead an expedition and I'm guessing some of the night's watch, the BWOB, and the Hound will accompany him given what he's seen in the flames. What other purpose is there for them going North? I also agree with the previous poster who says that one of the dragons will become a white. I think Dany might take it upon her self at the end of the season to see if Jon is telling the truth. What faster way to do it than go on a dragon ride. My fear is she'll take all three and the night king will kill one of them. Edited July 31, 2017 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 I think so as it's the only way he can prove it to Dany who he desperately needs. He'll pry lead an expedition and I'm guessing some of the night's watch, the BWOB, and the Hound will accompany him given what he's seen in the flames. What other purpose is there for them going North? I also agree with the previous poster who says that one of the dragons will become a white. I think Dany might take it upon her self at the end of the season to see if Jon is telling the truth. I disagree With the loss of Yara's fleet which keeps the Dorne army away from Kings Landing and the defeat of House Tyrell, Dany is left with Unsullied and Dothraki. While still a formidable military force, Cersei can paint them as a foreign invader and rally the people of Westeros to her cause Dany needs the North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Only 4 left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 So, Snow is going to have to bring a wight back for Dany to see, isn't he?yes, i think that was one of the many rumors that was leaked over the long GoT break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Aren't the dragons the perfect weapon against the WWs? Fire destroys them. This seems very simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Aren't the dragons the perfect weapon against the WWs? Fire destroys them. This seems very simple. thats the premise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I was waiting for the dragons to give some sign that they "recognized" Jon Snow. Right now, Bran seems to be the only one who knows he's half-Targaryen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I was waiting for the dragons to give some sign that they "recognized" Jon Snow. Right now, Bran seems to be the only one who knows he's half-Targaryen. Half Targaryen? All Targaryens are half Targaryen. They aren't Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Half Targaryen? All Targaryens are half Targaryen. They aren't Lannisters. Actually they kinda are. Aerys (The Mad King) was married to his sister Rhaella. Rhegar, Viserys and Daenerys are 3 of their 8 children. And Rhegar is Jon Snow's father with Lyanna Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Half Targaryen? All Targaryens are half Targaryen. They aren't Lannisters. Targaryens inter-bred to keep the throne in the family, like the Hapsburgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Supposedly this weeks episode might get leaked do to a security breech, for anyone like myself that doesn't want to ruin it be cautious on GOT material until Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Queen Rhaella Targaryen was the sister, wife, and queen of King Aerys II Targaryen and the only daughter of King Jaehaerys II Targaryen and his sister-wife, Queen Shaera Targaryen. Her grandfather was King Aegon V Targaryen. Rhaella was the mother of Prince Rhaegar, Prince Viserys, and Princess Daenerys. She died shortly after Daenerys's birth.[3] Banjo music. Lots of banjo music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Half Targaryen? All Targaryens are half Targaryen. They aren't Lannisters. Most Targaryen's inbred throughout GOT history to keep their bloodline pure and to make sure they keep the ability to bond and mount dragons. The previous couple of generations broke that trend giving us Jon Snow and possibly Tyrion. It will be interesting to see if they can ride the dragons. The Lannisters didn't partake in incest until Jaime and Cersei decided it was a good idea. Edited August 1, 2017 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) It was interesting to watch Danny and John Snow interact Both of them.....fighters for good....the people that support them will be the first to jump out and tell you how righteous they actually are but dont trust each other ok one other question So the unsullied too Casterly Rock....but behind their the fleet that took them there was being destroyed So....are they trapped? Edited August 1, 2017 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 So the unsullied too Casterly Rock....but behind their the fleet that took them there was being destroyed So....are they trapped? Anabasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 So the unsullied too Casterly Rock....but behind their the fleet that took them there was being destroyed So....are they trapped? They're trapped on the mainland but can easily attack King's Landing marching East. There's either a spy in Dany's camp (Varys maybe) or Jaime/Cersei know exactly how Tyrion thinks because Tyrion's battle strategy has badly backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 They're trapped on the mainland but can easily attack King's Landing marching East. There's either a spy in Dany's camp (Varys maybe) or Jaime/Cersei know exactly how Tyrion thinks because Tyrion's battle strategy has badly backfired. Dany wanted to attack the opposing fleet with her dragons Perhaps not a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Dany wanted to attack the opposing fleet with her dragons Perhaps not a bad idea? I don't see why not as it worked well in Mereen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Anabasis. I really do learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Anyone else wondering why in the last 2 episodes first Arya then Bran both had scenes where they had blank stares? Arya and Hot Pie then Bran and Sansa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Anyone else wondering why in the last 2 episodes first Arya then Bran both had scenes where they had blank stares? Arya and Hot Pie then Bran and Sansa Never thought about that, but my guess is they're changed significantly and they aren't the person they used to be. To pretend otherwise would be unrealistic. Jon and Sansa's reunion was a little different because they both went through a lot of horrible things (Jon getting stabbed to death, Sansa being married to two psychos) and both longed for anything resembling home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Either there's a purpose or the acting was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Never thought about that, but my guess is they're changed significantly and they aren't the person they used to be. To pretend otherwise would be unrealistic. Jon and Sansa's reunion was a little different because they both went through a lot of horrible things (Jon getting stabbed to death, Sansa being married to two psychos) and both longed for anything resembling home. Two psychos? Ramsey yeah, but Tyrion is no psycho and all things considered treated her quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Not Tyrion Joeffery Though she wasn't married to him he did torment her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Two psychos? Ramsey yeah, but Tyrion is no psycho and all things considered treated her quite well Typed too fast. I was thinking about her engagement to Joffrey who tormented her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Sansa deserves a man that will treat her right I volunteer my services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Anyone else wondering why in the last 2 episodes first Arya then Bran both had scenes where they had blank stares? Arya and Hot Pie then Bran and Sansa Bran because he's now an emotionless time wizard. Arya because she's an emotionless assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Anyone else wondering why in the last 2 episodes first Arya then Bran both had scenes where they had blank stares? Arya and Hot Pie then Bran and Sansa Bran because he's now an emotionless time wizard. Arya because she's an emotionless assassin. Bran is overwhelmed, which certainly can give the appearance of a lack of emotion. I think he still "feels" but he can't control what he's seeing right now. I also don't think Arya is emotionless -- just cautious of everything and everyone now as a result of all she has experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Watched the leak last night. Couldn't resist. All I can say is WOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Watched the leak last night. Couldn't resist. All I can say is WOW!!! To you and anyone else who has watched the leaks, please don't spoil it for the rest of us who have chosen to not watch the leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 To you and anyone else who has watched the leaks, please don't spoil it for the rest of us who have chosen to not watch the leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Wow...an amazing final ten minutes of the episode. When Gandalf shows up, it really changes the mood of the entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Euron grayjoy my new favorite. His taunt aimed at Jamie maybe the best single line in TV history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Euron grayjoy my new favorite. His taunt aimed at Jamie maybe the best single line in TV history. I don't know about that, but "perhaps a finger in the bum?" had me rolling. I'm glad we only see him in bits and pieces...he's a bit over the top for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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