Cripple Creek Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Creative thinking is necessary...go off your board and draft Jeff Gilooly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I don't really see Watson as a natural leader at this point... No idea how you came to this conclusion. I think the kid exudes leadership qualities. There are question marks, he is not a slam dunk, but the kid is a leader beyond question in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 By scoring TDs all over the field and by keeping him off the Pats roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 get this guy, he will be a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 So we get another tight end that our lackluster QBs can't find on the field and then we beat the Pats because they're too busy scheming for the rookie TE who has 20 catches for 230 yards and 1 TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 a tight end wouldnt be awful but there isn't a huge prospect. Ohhhhh, yes there is..... Good'n'hurt won't be needing that 88 Jersey anymore... At least we can get it to someone who wore it with distinction in college.... Howard is a hammer, that can be used a variety of ways.... At 6"6" 255, he'll be open even when covered... That's the kind of help that allows you to beat people right away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Ohhhhh, yes there is..... Good'n'hurt won't be needing that 88 Jersey anymore... At least we can get it to someone who wore it with distinction in college.... Howard is a hammer, that can be used a variety of ways.... At 6"6" 255, he'll be open even when covered... That's the kind of help that allows you to beat people right away... i am just not big on him i can't explain it. ... ok i'll try he's raw. i don't think he is there yet with what i'd expect from a top 10 TE pick. playing at alabama i'd hope he could start and contribute more than any player at his position the first day you have him. he can't. he won't, clay is too smart at football. he needs to gain some strength. nfl linebackers can handle him. he will be a good nfl te one day. i don't think it will be immediately. zach ebron was similar to what i think it will take for howard to hit his stride. in 2-3 years he will be right there with what we expect. a top 5 TE. but still, i don't know if that's an opportunity we can take at pick 10. i am fine iwth bpa, if he is it, he is it. Edited March 13, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) i am just not big on him i can't explain it. ... ok i'll try he's raw. i don't think he is there yet with what i'd expect from a top 10 TE pick. playing at alabama i'd hope he could start and contribute more than any player at his position the first day you have him. he can't. he won't, clay is too smart at football. he needs to gain some strength. nfl linebackers can handle him. he will be a good nfl te one day. i don't think it will be immediately. zach ebron was similar to what i think it will take for howard to hit his stride. in 2-3 years he will be right there with what we expect. a top 5 TE. but still, i don't know if that's an opportunity we can take at pick 10. i am fine iwth bpa, if he is it, he is it. I totally get your sentiment.... I also get the sentiment of others who don't see a TE @10 as a winning proposal... Still when I put myself opposite his hulking frame on the LOS, all my doubts disappear... Howard is a muscle-bound physical freak... If he gains some technique at his position, it'll be scary...He'll need some coaching, of course, and he'll need to learn how to prepare like a pro, but if things go as they should, we'll have a weapon in Howard... Pats don't have enough haters in that secondary to deal with Clay, Howard AND Sammy... If we can put together anything resembling a pro at QB, NE is in trouble... Edited March 13, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 There is no player in this draft capable of helping the Bills topple the Pats. The most likely player to help us topple the Pats is Tom Brady. Either by declining or retiring . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Jeff Gillooly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 IMO, the only way a 1st rounder this year will help us beat the patriots* this year is if we draft a defensive player that breaks Tom Brady and ends his season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Trade down and get a WR or TE. Score more points and keep Brady on the sidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 IMO, the only way a 1st rounder this year will help us beat the patriots* this year is if we draft a defensive player that breaks Tom Brady and ends his season. This. Or draft basically a hit man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think at #10 Alabama's 6'6" TE OJ Howard presents a physical challenge for Malcolm Butler, and Logan Ryan when spread out wide... His explosive speed, and ability to get open will draw a lot of attention from McCourty, and Chung, freeing up opportunities for other receivers. Trading down in the first, and a taking Ole Miss TE/WR Evan Engram, would work too. At 6'3" Engram may not be a HUGE target, but he catches the ball away from his body better than ANY WR/TE in this draft!... This will be a problem for a Pats 2ndary that could not handle anything Julio Jones had to offer. The Pats also don't have a LB that can break off and cover Engram. -He's too fast, and adept a route- runner... IMO, stopping Tom Brady is a pipe dream... Moving the chains, and trading points with the Pats is critical to beating them. That's what I've got... Your turn. They don't. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Creative thinking is necessary...go off your board and draft Jeff Gilooly. I'm hoping the Jests or Dolphins draft him as I think he's a one hit wonder, but if he's around in the 6th round, I'm all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Whatever player has the best chance to injure Brady. Solomon Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Three number ones would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The Pats havent lost more than 4 games since 2009. The Pats record vs the AFC East since 2001 is something like 76-22 which is absurd in the NFL. Nothing we do this offseason will get us to 13-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 BB makes most qbs look bad. But Dak, a 4th round rookie, was a better passer as a rookie than Tyrod in his 5th year. Why can't that happen again? I do respect the way Tyrod takes care of the ball but it completely limits us as a team. Watson would definitely throw more INTs. But he'd keep throwing. I prefer the Farve gunslinger over the Alex Smith- Tyrod game manager. Dare to be great I agree. There comes a time in an NFL game where you have to take risks. TT doesn't do this and probably never will. He's not a qb that will bring you back from a late game deficit. He is a good game manager who would require a great defense to be successful. If he's got another level, these next 2 yrs will be his chance to show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Don't make it about toppling anyone. Pick the best player available at a high priority position of need. If you did want to beat Brady....pass rush, pass rush, pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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