TakeYouToTasker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 This is an oversimplification.http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/chris-christie/christie-us-worst-recovery-wwii/And you want to know how I found this information? I googled three words - "slowest economic recovery." The first few sources were things like Free Beacon and Washington Times. I clicked on Politifact because I know them to be neutral and moderate.You may fancy yourself smarter than everyone else, more principled or whatever. But you are just as susceptible to political biases as anyone you accuse.I mean did you REALLY think there is exactly one measurement to look at when evaluating the economy? It's an oversimplification to use economic growth data when talking about economic growth recovering from a recession? Also, Politifact is a left leaning organization. Since it's split with Congressional Quarterly it's assessments of political truths have found fault with three times more conservative statements than liberal, and have found nine times more conservative statements to be egregiously untrue. Don't look to members of the media or "fact checkers" to inform you. They're all reporting with a bias. Look at the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Meanwhile: CHARLIE MARTIN: Five Questions to Ask About the Current Trump Kerfuffle. Question One. Does agreeing to meet with any Russian constitute collusion? Does lobbying by a Russian constitute collusion? Question Two. What criminal statute covers meeting with Russian private citizens? For that matter, what criminal statute covers accepting opposition research about a candidate? Question Three What is the massive ethical breach involved here? Was it more unethical than these? Question Four. Does this photograph indicate collusion with the Russians? Is it only collusion when your name is "Trump"? Natalia seems to pop up in the strangest places! Question Five. What the hell is is wrong with these people? Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? The correct answer , of course, is that is only a crime if a Republican does it. The Hill: Obama DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Tell me people, why would Russia (specifically Putin) want Trump instead of Clinton? What is Russia's largest source of revenue and influence? How would Trump's policies or Clinton's policies affect that revenue? Figure that out you dumbasses on the left who continue to preach collusion and you'll have to find a new talking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Tell me people, why would Russia (specifically Putin) want Trump instead of Clinton? What is Russia's largest source of revenue and influence? How would Trump's policies or Clinton's policies affect that revenue? Figure that out you dumbasses on the left who continue to preach collusion and you'll have to find a new talking point. I don't think there's any doubt that Clinton, being a more seasoned political operative, would have been viewed by Putin as a tougher foe than Trump during the campaign. Additionally, HRC was (and continues to be) backed by some of the most prominent neoconservative strategists who jumped ship when Bush's candidacy imploded - men and women who view Russia not as an adversary but as a hostile threat that can only be dealt with through regime change in Moscow. Clinton was campaigning on starting a shooting war with Russia in Syria with her no fly zones - for that reason alone I think you could make a strong case Putin preferred the candidate who wasn't advocating launching a war against his country to the one who was and continues to be. HRC would have undoubtedly been more of a challenge for Putin both geopolitically and domestically - there'd be no hope of sanctions being eased, and an increased risk of a shooting war between US and Russian forces. Especially since Clinton has proven she has no qualms about launching ill conceived regime change wars that turn once functioning nations into nothing more than human trafficking hubs (see Libya). Clinton represented everything that Putin fears most. Putin no doubt believed/believes he can negotiate with Trump more so than he could have with the neocons who undoubtedly would have comprised HRC's cabinet. ...That doesn't mean there was any sort of collusion though, or that any of the Russian "meddling" changed a single vote - which I realize was your larger point. Just that I can think of numerous reasons why Putin would prefer Trump to Clinton. The biggest one being Clinton was campaigning on starting a war with Russia while Trump was campaigning on working to find common ground with the world's largest nuclear threat. Funny how working for peaceful resolutions rather than launching regime change wars was once lauded by the left... now it's proof of collusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 There is no way that the media and Dem base and her supporters were pretending or expecting Hillary was running to the right of the GOP. No way at all. The fact that nobody really has a clue what she was proposing may not have helped her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 More details on how the lie of "all 17 intelligence agencies agree" on the Russian issue coming to light. Funny. Some on here have been saying this for months and months now... Throwing a Curveball at ‘Intelligence Community Consensus’ on Russia Definitive assessment was not what it proclaimed to be.http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/did-17-intelligence-agencies-really-come-to-consensus-on-russia/ Simply put, the Russia NIA is not an “IC-coordinated” assessment—the vehicle for such coordination, the NIC, was not directly involved in its production, and no NIO was assigned as the responsible official overseeing its production. Likewise, the Russia NIA cannot be said to be the product of careful coordination between the CIA, NSA and FBI—while analysts from all three agencies were involved in its production, they were operating as part of a separate, secretive task force operating under the close supervision of the Director of the CIA, and not as an integral part of their home agency or department. This deliberate misrepresentation of the organizational bona fides of the Russia NIA casts a shadow over the viability of the analysis used to underpin the assessments and judgments contained within. This is especially so when considered in the larger framework of what a proper “IC-coordinated assessment” process should look like, and in the aftermath of the intelligence failures surrounding Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and the lessons learned from that experience, none of which were applied when it came to the Russia NIA. (snip) According to reporting from the Washington Post, sometime during this period, CIA Director John Brennan gained access to a sensitive intelligence report from a foreign intelligence service. This service claimed to have technically penetrated the inner circle of Russian leadership to the extent that it could give voice to the words of Russian President Vladimir Putin as he articulated Russia’s objectives regarding the 2016 U.S. Presidential election—to defeat Hillary Clinton and help elect Donald Trump, her Republican opponent. This intelligence was briefed to President Barack Obama and a handful of his closest advisors in early August, with strict instructions that it not be further disseminated. The explosive nature of this intelligence report, both in terms of its sourcing and content, served to drive the investigation of Russian meddling in the American electoral process by the U.S. intelligence community. The problem, however, was that it wasn’t the U.S. intelligence community, per se, undertaking this investigation, but rather (according to the Washington Post) a task force composed of “several dozen analysts from the CIA, NSA and FBI,” hand-picked by the CIA director and set up at the CIA Headquarters who “functioned as a sealed compartment, its work hidden from the rest of the intelligence community.” The result was a closed-circle of analysts who operated in complete isolation from the rest of the U.S. intelligence community. The premise of their work—that Vladimir Putin personally directed Russian meddling in the U.S. Presidential election to tip the balance in favor of Donald Trump—was never questioned in any meaningful fashion, despite its sourcing to a single intelligence report from a foreign service. (snip) The decision by Brennan early on in the process to create a special task force sequestered from the rest of the intelligence community ensured that whatever product it finally produced would neither draw upon the collection and analytical resources available to the totality of the national intelligence community, nor represent the considered judgment of the entire community—simply put, the Russia NIA lacked the kind of community cohesiveness that gives national estimates and assessments such gravitas. The over reliance on a single foreign source of intelligence likewise put Brennan and his task force on the path of repeating the same mistake made in the run up to the Iraq War, where the intelligence community based so much of its assessment on a fundamentally flawed foreign intelligence source—“Curveball.” Not much is known about the nature of the sensitive source of information Brennan used to construct his case against Russia—informed speculation suggests the Estonian intelligence service, which has a history of technical penetration of Russian governmental organizations as well as a deep animosity toward Russia that should give pause to the kind of effort to manipulate American policy toward Russia in the same way Iraqi opposition figures (Ahmed Chalabi comes to mind) sought to do on Iraq. President Putin has repeatedly and vociferously denied any Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. Those who cite the findings of the Russia NIA as indisputable proof to the contrary, however, dismiss this denial out of hand. And yet nowhere in the Russia NIA is there any evidence that those who prepared it conducted anything remotely resembling the kind of “analysis of alternatives” mandated by the ODNI when it comes to analytic standards used to prepare intelligence community assessments and estimates. Nor is there any evidence that the CIA’s vaunted “Red Cell” was approached to provide counterintuitive assessments of premises such as “What if President Putin is telling the truth?” (snip) The excuse that Brennan’s source was simply too sensitive to be shared with these individuals, and the analysts assigned to them, is ludicrous—both the NIO for cyber issues and the CIA’s mission manager for Russia and Eurasia are cleared to receive the most highly classified intelligence and, moreover, are specifically mandated to oversee projects such as an investigation into Russian meddling in the American electoral process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I don't think there's any doubt that Clinton, being a more seasoned political operative, would have been viewed by Putin as a tougher foe than Trump during the campaign. Additionally, HRC was (and continues to be) backed by some of the most prominent neoconservative strategists who jumped ship when Bush's candidacy imploded - men and women who view Russia not as an adversary but as a hostile threat that can only be dealt with through regime change in Moscow. Clinton was campaigning on starting a shooting war with Russia in Syria with her no fly zones - for that reason alone I think you could make a strong case Putin preferred the candidate who wasn't advocating launching a war against his country to the one who was and continues to be. HRC would have undoubtedly been more of a challenge for Putin both geopolitically and domestically - there'd be no hope of sanctions being eased, and an increased risk of a shooting war between US and Russian forces. Especially since Clinton has proven she has no qualms about launching ill conceived regime change wars that turn once functioning nations into nothing more than human trafficking hubs (see Libya). Clinton represented everything that Putin fears most. Putin no doubt believed/believes he can negotiate with Trump more so than he could have with the neocons who undoubtedly would have comprised HRC's cabinet. ...That doesn't mean there was any sort of collusion though, or that any of the Russian "meddling" changed a single vote - which I realize was your larger point. Just that I can think of numerous reasons why Putin would prefer Trump to Clinton. The biggest one being Clinton was campaigning on starting a war with Russia while Trump was campaigning on working to find common ground with the world's largest nuclear threat. Funny how working for peaceful resolutions rather than launching regime change wars was once lauded by the left... now it's proof of collusion. All of that is nice in theory but gas and oil prices are the single most important issue with Russia. Putin had some hope of stifling our production under Hillary while he had absolutely no hope of that with Trump. I've been preaching this for years, but if we want real leverage with Russia, the Middle East, hell, even Europe then we need to become the world's supplier of energy. When that happens, we call the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Tell me people, why would Russia (specifically Putin) want Trump instead of Clinton? What is Russia's largest source of revenue and influence? How would Trump's policies or Clinton's policies affect that revenue? Figure that out you dumbasses on the left who continue to preach collusion and you'll have to find a new talking point. Why would Putin want a guy he can blackmail in the WH? Here's a good story on the money laundering angle https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 All of that is nice in theory but gas and oil prices are the single most important issue with Russia. Putin had some hope of stifling our production under Hillary while he had absolutely no hope of that with Trump. I've been preaching this for years, but if we want real leverage with Russia, the Middle East, hell, even Europe then we need to become the world's supplier of energy. When that happens, we call the shots. handling a potentially explosive "population" in its territory is another major concern as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Why would Putin want a guy he can blackmail in the WH? Here's a good story on the money laundering angle https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate As much as it repulses me to respond to you, this is from your link: To date, no one has documented that Trump was even aware of any suspicious entanglements in his far-flung businesses, let alone that he was directly compromised by the Russian mafia or the corrupt oligarchs who are closely allied with the Kremlin. So far, when it comes to Trump’s ties to Russia, there is no smoking gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 You gotta love democrats................... ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Meanwhile: CHARLIE MARTIN: Five Questions to Ask About the Current Trump Kerfuffle. Question One. Does agreeing to meet with any Russian constitute collusion? Does lobbying by a Russian constitute collusion? Question Two. What criminal statute covers meeting with Russian private citizens? For that matter, what criminal statute covers accepting opposition research about a candidate? Question Three What is the massive ethical breach involved here? Was it more unethical than these? Question Four. Does this photograph indicate collusion with the Russians? Is it only collusion when your name is "Trump"? Natalia seems to pop up in the strangest places! Question Five. What the hell is is wrong with these people? Can it be a crime to do opposition research by asking foreigners for information? The correct answer , of course, is that is only a crime if a Republican does it. The Hill: Obama DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team. Obama let her in the country, set up the meeting, then drove DT Jr. to the meeting..(Miss Daisy Style) DT Junior was forthcoming about the meeting, giving FULL disclosure at once... All the while Trump Sr. NEVER knew a thing. -Does that sound about right? Great write-up on the Trump Kids by someone who gets paid to do it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-sub-master-universe-090031185.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 As much as it repulses me to respond to you, this is from your link: To date, no one has documented that Trump was even aware of any suspicious entanglements in his far-flung businesses, let alone that he was directly compromised by the Russian mafia or the corrupt oligarchs who are closely allied with the Kremlin. So far, when it comes to Trump’s ties to Russia, there is no smoking gun. Russians exist, they spent money, therefore Trump is guilty without a shred of evidence that he was even aware of this. The Dems are setting up such an impossible standard on themselves.... it is gonna fall so hard on them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Obama let her in the country, set up the meeting, then drove DT Jr. to the meeting..(Miss Daisy Style) DT Junior was forthcoming about the meeting, giving FULL disclosure at once... All the while Trump Sr. NEVER knew a thing. -Does that sound about right? It's not surprising that weak 'over the top" sarcasm is the only response. Deflection doesn't really work well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Obama let her in the country, set up the meeting, then drove DT Jr. to the meeting..(Miss Daisy Style) Not just an !@#$, but a racist !@#$. !@#$ off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 As much as it repulses me to respond to you, this is from your link:To date, no one has documented that Trump was even aware of any suspicious entanglements in his far-flung businesses, let alone that he was directly compromised by the Russian mafia or the corrupt oligarchs who are closely allied with the Kremlin. So far, when it comes to Trump’s ties to Russia, there is no smoking gun. No, just smoke coming from everywhere! http://fortune.com/2015/02/11/trump-taj-mahal-casino-settles-u-s-money-laundering-claims/ Trump's casinos were fined for money laundering issues. When this house of cards falls, and it will, look out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Obama let her in the country, set up the meeting, then drove DT Jr. to the meeting..(Miss Daisy Style) DT Junior was forthcoming about the meeting, giving FULL disclosure at once... All the while Trump Sr. NEVER knew a thing. -Does that sound about right? Great write-up on the Trump Kids by someone who gets paid to do it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-sub-master-universe-090031185.html Right. We should take the OpEd of an agenda driven, paid progressive mouth piece as the definitive accounting. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 No, just smoke coming from everywhere! http://fortune.com/2015/02/11/trump-taj-mahal-casino-settles-u-s-money-laundering-claims/ Trump's casinos were fined for money laundering issues. When this house of cards falls, and it will, look out! Check your facts, dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 All of that is nice in theory but gas and oil prices are the single most important issue with Russia. Putin had some hope of stifling our production under Hillary while he had absolutely no hope of that with Trump. I've been preaching this for years, but if we want real leverage with Russia, the Middle East, hell, even Europe then we need to become the world's supplier of energy. When that happens, we call the shots. Rhino is spot on that Hillary would fill her cabinet with neocons who would do anything in their power to gain leverage with Russia. Threatening to export our vast and increasing supply of natural gas to neighboring countries of Russia is an effective way of gaining leverage on Russia and knowing Hillary she wouldn't hesitate using this strategy for a second. Hillary combated fracking complaints by saying that production of natural gas will drive out the coal industry so she had no real interest in reducing fracking. That was a complaint of Sanders during the campaign as Hillary refused to support a ban on new oil and gas leases on public land. Putin knows what he's getting with Hillary who Putin blamed personally as the catalyst for the December 2011 mass Russian protests as she questioned whether the 2011 parliamentary elections were rigged. Although Hillary may have more regulations on drilling and fracking (my guess is she'll reduce the regulations Obama imposed because she loves to lie), she'll make sure that enough natural gas and oil is produced to threaten the monopoly Russia holds on many European countries. Trump was more of a wild card who campaigned on being energy independent, but whether he would use that as a leveraging chip against Russia was unclear. Putin probably miscalculated though given Trump's speech at the G20 in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Rhino is spot on that Hillary would fill her cabinet with neocons who would do anything in their power to gain leverage with Russia. Threatening to export our vast and increasing supply of natural gas to neighboring countries of Russia is an effective way of gaining leverage on Russia and knowing Hillary she wouldn't hesitate using this strategy for a second. Hillary combated fracking complaints by saying that production of natural gas will drive out the coal industry so she had no real interest in reducing fracking. That was a complaint of Sanders during the campaign as Hillary refused to support a ban on new oil and gas leases on public land. Putin knows what he's getting with Hillary who Putin blamed personally as the catalyst for the December 2011 mass Russian protests as she questioned whether the 2011 parliamentary elections were rigged. Although Hillary may have more regulations on drilling and fracking (my guess is she'll reduce the regulations Obama imposed because she loves to lie), she'll make sure that enough natural gas and oil is produced to threaten the monopoly Russia holds on many European countries. Trump was more of a wild card who campaigned on being energy independent, but whether he would use that as a leveraging chip against Russia was unclear. Putin probably miscalculated though given Trump's speech at the G20 in Poland. You have some good points but it is all speculation regarding what Hillary might have done. She would have had to pivot far from the far left to let us gain the upper hand as it pertains to energy. As I see it our issues with supplying Europe with natural gas is obviously the transportation challenge. If/when we get that figured out we'll either be calling the shots or face war with Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 You have some good points but it is all speculation regarding what Hillary might have done. She would have had to pivot far from the far left to let us gain the upper hand as it pertains to energy. As I see it our issues with supplying Europe with natural gas is obviously the transportation challenge. If/when we get that figured out we'll either be calling the shots or face war with Russia. Clinton wouldn't have had to pivot at all to move right. And re: energy, we're already one of the top producers. What benefit to the American people does flexing our reserves on the rest of the world confer? I'd much rather decrease our dependence on imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Racist? -For alluding to a popular mainstream movie? -LAME. -Even for you. What I am, (like many Americans) is stuck between the boorish, servile, thugs on the far right, and the pandering political pimps of the far left. Trump, while on the campaign trail, rang the dinner bell for Russia, Assange, and anyone else who wanted to swing an axe at the USA... Once elected, he further damaged his credibility by firing the FBI director looking into the breadth of their involvement... But lets say all that is innocent, -Why all the LIES? DT Jr. said he met with the reporter to discuss Orphans. -LIE.... Flynn LIED about conversations with a Russian Ambassador, Jeff Sessions LIED to the Senate Judiciary Committee about meetings with Russians... How can anyone trust a single word this administration, or it's surrogates say? Edited July 13, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Racist? -For alluding to a popular mainstream movie? -LAME. -Even for you. What I am, (like many Americans) is stuck between the boorish, servile, thugs on the far right, and the pandering political pimps of the far left. Trump, while on the campaign trail, rang the dinner bell for Russia, Assange, and anyone else who wanted to swing an axe at the USA... Once elected, he further damaged his credibility by firing the FBI director looking into the breadth of their involvement... But lets say all that is innocent, -Why all the LIES? DT Jr. said he met with the reporter to discuss Orphans. -LIE.... Flynn LIED about conversations with a Russian Ambassador, Jeff Sessions LIED to the Senate Judiciary Committee about meetings with Russians... How can anyone trust a single word this administration, or it's surrogates say? Racist for alluding to racism, you moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Racist for alluding to racism, you moron. So now you're a racist just for alluding to a movie where racism was one of the themes! So sad to see you like this, Tom.. Edited July 14, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So now you're a racist just for alluding to a movie where race was one of the themes! So sad to see you like this, Tom.. To be fair, it wasn't "one of the themes", it was the theme of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 no one defines hate, intolerance and ignorance better then the left The Democrats are one of the most diverse, open, inclusive and educated organizations in the country, if not the world. Trump's party, not so much jesus now there is coffee all over my !@#$ing keyboard HEATHER MALLICK: Why I Abandoned The Left: The hardliners can be so exhausting. They have purges. They murder their darlings, they shun their own. They’re awful people. They’re often mentally ill, and acting out their problems through politics, which ensures that they lack all proportion. NEITHER THE FIRST NOR THE LAST: I Was A High School Student ‘Feeling the Bern.’ Then the Left Turned Me Into A Trump Supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 To be fair, it wasn't "one of the themes", it was the theme of the movie. Aging was also a prominent theme.. As was Anti-Semitism...... I think you & Tom got bored half-way and opted for the directors cut of "Magic Mike". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Jared Kushner father is in jail in part for witness tampering, and wow, what a story The federal witnesses he had attempted to retaliate against were his sister and brother-in-law, who were cooperating with that same investigation. Kushner paid a prostitute $10,000 to lure his brother-in-law to a motel room at the Red Bull Inn in Bridgewater to have sex with him. A hidden camera recorded the activity, and Kushner sent the lurid tape to his sister, making sure the tape arrived on the day of a family party. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/11/time-pay-attention-jared-kushner/ Ok, well, then yes I can understand that Jared might very well be behind the WH leaks of late because he knows he is in so much trouble for not disclosing his meetings where he attempted to set up a secret back channel with Russia to avoid our government from finding out. Outing his stupid brother in law (Don Jr.) is just how things work in this family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Well now! @NBCNews EXCLUSIVE: Former Soviet counter-intelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer http://nbcnews.to/2tThanw @Billbrowder Huge development in the Veselnitskaya/Trump Jr story. Russian GRU officer Rinat Akhmetshin was also present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Well now! @NBCNews EXCLUSIVE: Former Soviet counter-intelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer http://nbcnews.to/2tThanw @Billbrowder Huge development in the Veselnitskaya/Trump Jr story. Russian GRU officer Rinat Akhmetshin was also present. and who let those people in this country? Obuma and his piece of crap AG, Lynch, set up if there ever was one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorbait Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 and who let those people in this country? Obuma and his piece of crap AG, Lynch, set up if there ever was oneYeah it's Obama's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Damn Obama! I bet he works for KGB! I love how there is a delay while B-man and co. wait for the propaganda line from Britbart or whatnot to respond with some bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Well now! @NBCNews EXCLUSIVE: Former Soviet counter-intelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer http://nbcnews.to/2tThanw @Billbrowder Huge development in the Veselnitskaya/Trump Jr story. Russian GRU officer Rinat Akhmetshin was also present. in your own words with the little intelligence you have what does this mean? Why is this a development? You are too afraid to reply and no one takes you seriously when all you do is 140 or less on your 60 or less IQ. #hashtag Yeah it's Obama's fault.you realize that you're replying to someone who was mocking this right? Mocking a mocked means you got trolled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Well now! @NBCNews EXCLUSIVE: Former Soviet counter-intelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer http://nbcnews.to/2tThanw @Billbrowder Huge development in the Veselnitskaya/Trump Jr story. Russian GRU officer Rinat Akhmetshin was also present. I never realized that the Russians have former Soviet counter-intelligence officers running their adoption agencies. Good thing Don Jr. uncovered this plot to infiltrate the U.S. with baby Manchurian Candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I never realized that the Russians have former Soviet counter-intelligence officers running their adoption agencies. Really? They were the ones with the domestic and international contacts and access to funds. They ended up running most of the post-Soviet economy. You think random babushkas out of Sverdlov opened adoption agencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Really? They were the ones with the domestic and international contacts and access to funds. They ended up running most of the post-Soviet economy. You think random babushkas out of Sverdlov opened adoption agencies? Just shows how sickening Putin is that he would hold up children getting adopted over sanctions on his criminal enterprise Trump sure has some nice friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorbait Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 You are too afraid to reply and no one takes you seriously. you realize that you're replying to someone who was mocking this right? Mocking a mocked means you got trolled Pot meet kettle. With all due respect, choke on my dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Well now! @NBCNews EXCLUSIVE: Former Soviet counter-intelligence officer attended meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Russian lawyer http://nbcnews.to/2tThanw @Billbrowder Huge development in the Veselnitskaya/Trump Jr story. Russian GRU officer Rinat Akhmetshin was also present. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Putin himself was either there, or tied-in by conference call... This just gets worse and worse. Edited July 14, 2017 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Putin himself was either there, or tied-in by conference call... This just gets worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Pot meet kettle. With all due respect, choke on my dick. First things first: http://dailyhealthsource.org/mens-health/larger-penis.html?voluumdata=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&MatchType=e&BidMatchType=be&QueryString=penis%20enlargement%20ads&KeyWord=penis%20enlargement%20ads&CampaignID=291208256&AdGroupID=1272134988580331&AdID=79508447895112&TargetID=kwd-79508457226880&IfSearch:SearchNetworkDisplay=SearchNetworkDisplay&IfContent:ContentNetworkDisplay= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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