K-9 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 To me the fundamental WCO is a short passing game to RBs and WRs/TEs to set up the run. I just.dont see this from Tyrod as instead Tyrod exceeds in deep passing open up the defense for him to run or dump off to a RB. I wouldn't get too caught up in the WCO label. It's better to say that Dennison's system incorporates certain principles of it. We can say the same for Andy Reid's offense as well. The league's defenses caught up to the WCO a while ago and that offense has evolved over time in response. I'm with you with regards to TT as I haven't seen it from him either. I'm just not sure if that's more because of what Roman's system asked of him or if he really lacks the skill set. And I really wonder how much Dennison's coaching experience with TT informs him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I hope we retain Tyrod just because we'll get to read all these lovely tidbits for another 2 year period (or longer!). You hate Tyrod more than I like anyone on buffalo. It's wonderful! Maybe MAJ is Matt Cassel? Lost the job, got a bone to pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I actually prefer that he not run the Greg Roman/Anthony Lynn offense. I am hoping for something much more balanced and productive in the passing game. Edited January 23, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I actually prefer that he not run the Greg Roman/Anthony Lynn offense. I am hoping for something much more balanced and productive in the passing game. ^Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 My opinion is that he will keep some aspects of it, but also include things that have worked well for him elsewhere. Just my two cents worth, but time will tell I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah lets keep 1970s football that is not good enough to win when needed because it Hides a QB that is not good enough to win when needed.Agreed.....no need to keep the offenseI don't think it's a given that Dennison should adapt to the existing offense at all. Who's to say Taylor wouldn't be even better in Dennison's preferred system? Other than the coaches, I mean. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Not sure I buy that Dennison can make it work with Osweiler, but not Taylor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I actually prefer that he not run the Greg Roman/Anthony Lynn offense. I am hoping for something much more balanced and productive in the passing game.Absolutely agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah lets keep 1970s football that is not good enough to win when needed because it Hides a QB that is not good enough to win when needed. Uh, no. With the offensive production we had last year, if we would have had a top 10 defense we would have been in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Like all the hires except OC. This guy didn't call plays and when he did on a limited basis, it seems that the offense in Denver pretty much sucked. Furthermore, the fans and players weren't exactly disappointed after he wasn't retained. I prefer guys who adjust their scheme around the players than the other way around. I hope I am wrong but I am not too enthusiastic about this offense in 2017 under this guy's watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Rico does not adapt to you. You adapt to Rico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If the Ryan era taught us nothing else, you adapt your system to your personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If Tyrod Taylor is retained, would it not be best to keep the same offense that we've been running the past two years. Why scrap a top ten scoring offense and instill a new one that will necessitate a learning curve. No one complained when the last staff came in to improve a top ranked defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I still think that they keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If Tyrod Taylor is retained, would it not be best to keep the same offense that we've been running the past two years. Why scrap a top ten scoring offense and instill a new one that will necessitate a learning curve. Wouldn't that depend on wether or not they draft a QB in say the 1st or 2nd round to learn behind Taylor? If they donyour designing the offense that will best suit THAT player and not Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Yeah lets keep 1970s football that is not good enough to win when needed because it Hides a QB that is not good enough to win when needed. THIS! POINT: The 4 Best passing QBs were in the championship games this year. Coincidence? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 A better designed passing offense would be nice. Still I hope he takes a lot of what we did on offense last season into the next one. Historically good running game, not a lot of turnovers, and a top 7 scoring offense. Why change? I'm sure he will continue to get the ball to McCoy and Gilislee as much as possible. I'm sure if TT is here, he will utilize him as a runner at times. I'm sure he will emphasize not turning the ball over. I hope he works on our passing game and it looks more like the Seahawks game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I've said in several threads that given how dissimilar Roman's system is we haven't seen much of anything from TT to suggest he can run Dennison's preferred schemes. That doesn't mean he can't, necessarily. Although I'm inclined to think he's not best suited for the for that kind of offense, especially operating from under center and the play action aspects of that particular system, he has been exposed to it and Dennison coached him, so I'm not convinced the coaches necessarily agree with me, either. We'll know soon enough if the coaches think he's the guy or not. there is some comfort in the new guy having familiarity with the player beyond film when making the decision this spring. in baltimore there was a bit of the run the ball and hit the occassional bomb going on too (recall that SB run) -- so it wouldnt be crazy to see our offense continue that. that said, its tough to rely on that week in and week out which is in part why the ravens offense goes up and down a lot it seems (i dont watch them CLOSE but it seems they run hot/cold). a good qb that can work the intermediate and short game definitely gives more week in and week out sustainability. but if we win more than we lose in the regular season and hit a hot streak in january we could end up like the ravens SB team i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 No one complained when the last staff came in to improve a top ranked defense. Plenty did including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 No actually I don't. I hate EJ more. But he is gone and it is decided he is not good enough. Sorry I just want Modern Football with the QB to match Do you consider Seattle, Denver, Dallas, and Pittsburgh modern football? I too want a more potent passing attack. I too don't want to rely on Watkins and TT bombs. But you can win a lot of games with a ground attack leading the way. Not the way I would do it, but you can not say it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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