Buffalo_Gal Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albwan Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) lol...the left is forced to side with Iran, people who murder Jews, illegal immigration, crashing the economy... all because of their hatred of Trump Its literally hilarious watching this. Edited January 3, 2020 by Albwan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I love how all of these arm chair internet critics like to second guess every move. I’d like to see them try being in the decision making seat for one day. It’s a lot harder than it looks from your keyboard! I keep that in mind while I'm criticizing. And there's a good bit to criticize here - as was pointed out somewhere else, this is another example of Trump understanding tactics but not strategy. Or, as I pointed out, another example of Trump understanding marketing but nothing else. The IRGC is a professional military force, intended to take losses and survive without degredation of capabilities. Killing Solemani is analogous to Iran assassinating General McKenzie (current CENTCOM commander) - nice propaganda win, but doesn't degrade US capabilities a damn, and results in Hell being rained down Iran's head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I keep that in mind while I'm criticizing. And there's a good bit to criticize here - as was pointed out somewhere else, this is another example of Trump understanding tactics but not strategy. Or, as I pointed out, another example of Trump understanding marketing but nothing else. The IRGC is a professional military force, intended to take losses and survive without degredation of capabilities. Killing Solemani is analogous to Iran assassinating General McKenzie (current CENTCOM commander) - nice propaganda win, but doesn't degrade US capabilities a damn, and results in Hell being rained down Iran's head. This is an action that's hard to judge until we see the consequences. If all we see is sabre-rattling and Iran stands down a bit, great. If this escalates, problem. Trump just went for it on 4th and 1 on his own 35. Genius or goat gets judged by the result here. Heavy lays the crown in these situations and I'm not sure if this particular action was the best choice. I hope it was--it would be great if this puts Iran back in the box a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, John Adams said: Assassinating a leading, but replaceable, general is definitely a new chapter in US-Iran relations. One of the things I liked about Trump so far was how he resisted doing rash things with the military. What happens next is something we can only wait for. Iran is under a lot of pressure. I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. I've said many times that I like that he's getting us out of war, his aggressive stance vs China on trade, and his conservative judicial appointments. You just believe the simple narratives here that everyone outside of the conspiracy boyz gang is a simple D or R lemming, and in so believing, are yourself a lemming. Edited January 3, 2020 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Mostly, I'm unhappy we went into Iraq and have stayed there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, keepthefaith said: Mostly, I'm unhappy we went into Iraq and have stayed there. Indeed. Trump has been doing a good job of extracting us from a lot of these messes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I love how all of these arm chair internet critics like to second guess every move. I’d like to see them try being in the decision making seat for one day. It’s a lot harder than it looks from your keyboard! Comes with the territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I’d love to see any documented proof prior to today that you liked how Trump avoided rash military action. he has consistently badmouthed everything Trump did or he imagined Trump did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1212938592546435072 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, row_33 said: he has consistently badmouthed everything Trump did or he imagined Trump did. Simple thinking is easy thinking isn't it row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213123410093596673 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213123410093596673 Big DE papers on board too. https://www.bild.de/politik/kolumnen/kolumne/usa-toeten-irans-terror-chef-bild-kommentar-trump-hat-die-welt-von-einem-monster-67073674.bild.html 1 minute ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. 100%. A measured response in a moment like this is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. they hate everything that happens or doesn't happen such a sad way to live 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: they hate everything that happens or doesn't happen such a sad way to live Politics above all. No exceptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, dubs said: Politics above all. No exceptions. He should have asked Nancy first! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dubs said: It’s sickening how the Dems react to these things. I can understand the desire to be measured when it comes to these issues, but to put out statement after statement basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction is a joke. Do the Republicans who have put out statements basically saying we overreacted and to expect a war as a knee jerk reaction sicken you as well? Edited January 3, 2020 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, dubs said: Politics above all. No exceptions. everything is political to them, which i can understand then they demand to corner the market on ethics which is very amusing, I make then turn beet red in 2 seconds whenever i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213123410093596673 "Justified" does not mean "wise." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 We’re looking for affirmation from Germany now? Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 nice to have her on board Just now, SoCal Deek said: We’re looking for affirmation from Germany now? Ha! it's nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: nice to have her on board it's nice She’s a back bench player. Always blowing in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: She’s a back bench player. Always blowing in the wind. it's good to have useful friends in middle Europe brave of her to make this stance all that much closer to the theatre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/WashingtonPoint/status/1213101966127173634 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: it's good to have useful friends in middle Europe brave of her to make this stance all that much closer to the theatre No doubt there. I just find it maddening how European leaders always come out to comment on the actions of the United States, under who’s protection they’ve been living for the last half century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 everyone i meet from that fine country tells me it's the government, and that someday the people will rise up and restore civilization.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 This move increases the chances for peace, not the other way around. It also helps the moderates and rebels on the ground in Iran who are still protesting and have been for over two years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: No doubt there. I just find it maddening how European leaders always come out to comment on the actions of the United States, under who’s protection they’ve been living for the last half century. that's just taken for granted and thanks!!! it's far better than if she condemned the action, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Stop listening to the same media and foreign policy experts who have been wrong on every count for decades. They’re full of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Trump is like most Americans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 This sort of strike puts the fear into the Mexican drug cartels not because it was a drone strike but because Soleimani was believed to be untouchable and the US certainly touched him. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This move increases the chances for peace, not the other way around. It also helps the moderates and rebels on the ground in Iran who are still protesting and have been for over two years. No one knows what happens from here regarding peace. I hope that you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This move increases the chances for peace, not the other way around. It also helps the moderates and rebels on the ground in Iran who are still protesting and have been for over two years. The moderates and rebels in Iran? This helps them? lol You will say anything 3 minutes ago, dpberr said: This sort of strike puts the fear into the Mexican drug cartels not because it was a drone strike but because Soleimani was believed to be untouchable and the US certainly touched him. Oh, ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 https://twitter.com/DrZuhdiJasser/status/1212948532518252544 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/DrZuhdiJasser/status/1212948532518252544 This'll be where Democrats come out in support of a foreign-backed coup... 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, DC Tom said: This'll be where Democrats come out in support of a foreign-backed coup... They have already been doing that, some unknowingly, for the past three years. So it should be easy enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 **************** Good. Second time they did it, second time the op didn't leak. Lives were saved because Chuck and Nancy didn't have time to give a heads up. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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