3rdnlng Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: So leaving troops in danger to protect Oil. ? But leaving troops to deter attacks against our allies who fought with us for a common goal. ? Good to know. Yes clearly no one on here championed this as the reason what he did was a good thing. They're is absolutely no hypocrisy here at all.? We assisted the Kurds in keeping ISIS from taking over their lands. Our troops who are protecting the oilfields are there to prevent Iran from taking control and using the money from those oilfields to finance terrorism around the world. That includes killing our troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Oh no, not the accusation of hypocrisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: We assisted the Kurds in keeping ISIS from taking over their lands. Our troops who are protecting the oilfields are there to prevent Iran from taking control and using the money from those oilfields to finance terrorism around the world. That includes killing our troops. Yep got to keep that oil money in the hands of safe Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia no way they have a connection to terrorist groups that attack the U.S. 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: Oh no, not the accusation of hypocrisy More an accusation that saying people pointing out more troops are in the middle east is people complaining about both withdrawing and there being too many is just really ***** dumb. Edited October 23, 2019 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yep got to keep that oil money in the hands of safe Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia no way they have a connection to terrorist groups that attack the U.S. You truly are an idiot. Have you not kept up at all with the real happenings over the last several years in the Middle East? Iran, who we presently have stymied in a little box with our sanctions is desperate to obtain more money for keeping their mullahs in power and financing terrorism. The oilfields in question are ripe for their exploitation and we're not going to let that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tomato/Tomatoe Not really. You suggested it was about protecting the flow of oil to the market, when it's about WHO benefits from the flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Thinking clearly about Trump and aid to Ukraine by Byron York Original Article . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I'm consistently disappointed that he doesn't troll the left with some sort of "curds and whey" pun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Wow, sanctions against Turkey dropped, of course! Russia is a good friend of Turkey now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, DC Tom said: I'm consistently disappointed that he doesn't troll the left with some sort of "curds and whey" pun. I already did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 So Trump is taking credit for a deal that Putin brokered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, TPS said: So Trump is taking credit for a deal that Putin brokered? It sounds like a conspiracy. You should have someone look into it. I hear that Russia also got a Facebook page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: It sounds like a conspiracy. You should have someone look into it. I hear that Russia also got a Facebook page. Yeah, yeah, I get it, the people who think Putin controls Trump, of which I'm not one. While Trump deserves credit for moving US troops out, which allowed Russia/Syria to broker the deal with Erdogan, the truce was a Putin success. The more interesting question from my perspective is if the overall plan was coordinated between parties? Regarding the outcome, I posted this a week or two ago in response to an analysis DR posted: Quote Don't think that guy has it right at all. Russia controls Assad, and they have also been working more and more with Turkey. This thing will be resolved fairly quick. For Turkey it's about weakening the Kurds, who have now made good with Assad (and Russia), as they have no other choice. Most likely a deal will be struck that satisfies Turkey's need to weaken the Kurds. Trump gets a political win by pulling troops out. The Neocons lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, TPS said: Yeah, yeah, I get it, the people who think Putin controls Trump, of which I'm not one. While Trump deserves credit for moving US troops out, which allowed Russia/Syria to broker the deal with Erdogan, the truce was a Putin success. The more interesting question from my perspective is if the overall plan was coordinated between parties? Regarding the outcome, I posted this a week or two ago in response to an analysis DR posted: Trump showed his cards just the other day and it's a policy I've promoted here for years. We are the strongest country both militarily and economically. He's chosen to first use our economy to force our will on other countries rather than our military. We can crush or help other countries by strategically using our energy abundance for good. We can also sanction theshit out of countries like Iran if we so choose. All of this without spilling blood. It's something that has seemed so clear for the last decade or so but seemed to escape the previous administration. They railed against such things as fracking and building pipelines while weakening our status in the world with those policies. Now I'm fully aware that our energy surplus is still a commodity and the President can't just say ship more natural gas to Germany or France but he certainly can work with the energy sector to bring about desired results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Is this extortion too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 hours ago, DC Tom said: Is this extortion too? Clearly. Extortion as well as bribery. Someone might want to let the Kurds know they're being both extorted and bribed, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Looks like we could be in for a big "never mind" moment in Syria. I'll give him credit though, he will reverse course when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russian-demands-all-u-s-troops-leave-syria-slams-trump-s-occupying-force-1.8023612 Russia Demands All U.S. Troops Leave Syria, Slams Trump's Occupying Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 14 hours ago, meazza said: https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russian-demands-all-u-s-troops-leave-syria-slams-trump-s-occupying-force-1.8023612 Russia Demands All U.S. Troops Leave Syria, Slams Trump's Occupying Force Eh, they're still pissy that our occupying force kicked the crap out of their occupying force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 15 hours ago, meazza said: https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russian-demands-all-u-s-troops-leave-syria-slams-trump-s-occupying-force-1.8023612 Russia Demands All U.S. Troops Leave Syria, Slams Trump's Occupying Force So by Monday the Democrats will support a complete troop withdrawal from Syria, and accuse Trump of wanting to start a war with Russia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Al-Baghadadi or however it's spelled likely killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Reminder: last time a president was impeached, he bombed Iraq to distract from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Reminder: last time a president was impeached, he bombed Iraq to distract from it. there was evidence and a proven case and full checkmate on Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 And a smattering of the press reaction: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 @Deranged Rhino how long does it take to rewrite something that is going on live? I am referring to the complete buffoonery of SNL last night. Blank air space would have been better than their "making ISIS great again" during the cold opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: @Deranged Rhino how long does it take to rewrite something that is going on live? I am referring to the complete buffoonery of SNL last night. Blank air space would have been better than their "making ISIS great again" during the cold opening. I missed it last night -- I'll have to look. SNL can rewrite within an hour or less because they use cue cards. They like to rehearse during the week, so they try not to do a major rewrite at the 11th hour, but it happens all the time from my understanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 These people have gotten every single policy decision wrong in the region for two decades -- why is anyone surprised when they're wrong again? More importantly, why should any one of us continue to listen to these *****wads? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 52 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I love the comments on Nasty Nancy's post. It's quite amusing that the best line that these ***** idiots on the left can come up with is "Trump was golfing" (nevermind the fact he watched it live from the situation room.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I love the comments on Nasty Nancy's post. It's quite amusing that the best line that these ***** idiots on the left can come up with is "Trump was golfing" (nevermind the fact he watched it live from the situation room.) Bush I watched the kickoff of Desert Storm on CNN in Kennebunkport. This belief the the President must monitor in real-time tactical efforts half a world away is immature and ridiculous. Once the helos are in the air, Trump was a spectator. I'd prefer he was golfing, otherwise he's a voyeur watching a snuff film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Hedge said: I can’t read it without my glasses. Did they put the austere scholar thing right up top, or did they reveal it with a flourish at the end, like in that movie where kid whispered that he saw al-Baghdadi people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 So Russia, Turkey, Syria and Iraq helped? Isn't that asking for assistance from foreign governments and even more reason to impeach him? BTW, the best part was when they asked if Nancy knew about it beforehand and he basically said "no, because I didn't want it leaked." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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