njbuff Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) If Trump went the other way and kept troops in Syria, these braindead morons on the left would have bashed that too. Folks, I know nothing about politics, but I do know ONE thing....................... NEVER, EVER take the left seriously in what they say. Nothing but hot air. Edited October 13, 2019 by njbuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Folks, I know nothing about politics, but I do know ONE thing....................... NEVER, EVER take the left seriously in what they say. Nothing but hot air. I take what they say very seriously, especially when I hear them saying things like "hell yes, I'm coming for your guns". They've become brazen with regard to telling the truth of their intentions, so people damn well better start to pay attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Azalin said: I take what they say very seriously, especially when I hear them saying things like "hell yes, I'm coming for your guns". They've become brazen with regard to telling the truth of their intentions, so people damn well better start to pay attention. Don’t worry, they won’t take your guns. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The Kurds have always been expendable in US policy, for decades now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, njbuff said: Don’t worry, they won’t take your guns. ? I'm not worried. They won't. I pay attention to what they say. And I assumed it was obvious that I only used Beto's statement on 'assault weapons' as an example. To spell it out more specifically, you say you know nothing about politics, but then say to never, ever take what they say seriously because it's nothing but hot air. I say that it isn't just hot air, and that people concerned with civil and individual liberties regardless of party affiliation, ought to pay close attention, because they are more increasingly saying what they truly intend to do. Edited October 14, 2019 by Azalin 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Trade deal with China is a blockbuster by John Hinderaker Original Article What the Democrats fear most is happening: President Trump and his negotiating team are reaching wide-ranging agreements with China that will be a huge boon to the United States. In an Oval Office press conference yesterday, President Trump and China’s Vice Premier announced a Phase 1 set of agreements that will be documented over the next several weeks. The video of the press conference is embedded below; Trump’s performance was masterful. His many years of experience as a negotiator shine through. The Phase 1 agreement covers several important topics, including agricultural sales. China has agreed to ramp up its purchases of agricultural products to $40-$50 billion . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The media is not your friend. https://mobile.twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1183738553328533504 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Why, it's almost like there are multiple nations with a stake in this game who could be (but aren't) doing anything about it... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 12 hours ago, row_33 said: The Kurds have always been expendable in US policy, for decades now Some Kurdish leader was on the radio this morning saying how the Kurds would never trust the US again. And all I could think was "Well, that only took 60 years..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I think the Turks were coming across the border regardless. They gave us the heads up. Were we going to get into a shooting war with one country while occupying another one? No. The ISIS problem will solve itself if you let the Syrians do their job. I think the Turks are painting themselves into a corner. If they get into a shooting war with Syria (and Russia), I don't think anybody in NATO is coming to their defense and they aren't talking to the Saudis anymore either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Edited October 14, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Thread / worth the time. From a left leaning CIA officer: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Don't think that guy has it right at all. Russia controls Assad, and they have also been working more and more with Turkey. This thing will be resolved fairly quick. For Turkey it's about weakening the Kurds, who have now made good with Assad (and Russia), as they have no other choice. Most likely a deal will be struck that satisfies Turkey's need to weaken the Kurds. Trump gets a political win by pulling troops out. The Neocons lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ALF Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Global: MilitaryInfo @Global_Mil_Info 19h19 hours ago More #FLASH: State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans over the weekend for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey - @nytimes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 hours ago, ALF said: Global: MilitaryInfo @Global_Mil_Info 19h19 hours ago More #FLASH: State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans over the weekend for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey - @nytimes We went through this several years ago when Erdogan took over, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 "This time WE REALLY got him!" When you stand for nothing, you'll fall for everything. Story of Gar-bear's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Gary Busey said: How embarrassing is it that it took this long to figure out Navarro is "Ron Vara?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: How embarrassing is it that it took this long to figure out Navarro is "Ron Vara?" Almost embarrassing as 57 states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 U.S. Carried Out ‘Show of Force’ After Close Encounter With Turkish-Backed Fighters: Report I'm curious what the orange man's reaction would have been had another president been responsible for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, meazza said: U.S. Carried Out ‘Show of Force’ After Close Encounter With Turkish-Backed Fighters: Report I'm curious what the orange man's reaction would have been had another president been responsible for this. The one thing 45 has shown, more than almost any other aspect of his time in office to date, is that he'll support the men and women in danger/combat/active service. And they love him for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The one thing 45 has shown, more than almost any other aspect of his time in office to date, is that he'll support the men and women in danger/combat/active service. And they love him for it. Unless they get captured. Honestly can’t believe you buy that bull####. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, meazza said: Unless they get captured. Honestly can’t believe you buy that bull####. I buy it because that's what I'm told, constantly, by active duty members. It's also backed up by facts. The previous administration's policy was to leave the men and women on the ground exposed -- to both enemy fire and litigation from their own country. The ROE's enforced on the soldiers turned them into lawyers on the battlefield rather than what they're trained/supposed to be doing. That cost lives. Worse, the previous (several) administrations left the military vastly unprepared for the two decades worth of endless war we've asked them to perform. This administration's policies put the soldiers lives first, and they love him for it. It's not a controversial idea, it's just a fact. What happened in terms of the show of force is 100% in line with that policy/philosophy. Turkey endangered our pilots -- so a (non lethal) message was sent to deter that from repeating. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, meazza said: U.S. Carried Out ‘Show of Force’ After Close Encounter With Turkish-Backed Fighters: Report I'm curious what the orange man's reaction would have been had another president been responsible for this. He might have raised an eyebrow but he wouldn't have lost it like some other "leaders" we know now, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: And was accused by the right wing of leading us into WW3 for even the slightest efforts to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 44’s policy wasn’t to stop it. It was to exacerbate it by partnering w AQ, and illegally arming, funding, and training our enemies. 44 didn’t want to end the war in Syria. He sparked it and wanted it to grow into a tinderbox which would keep our forces in the region for another 10 years w no hope of completing their “mission”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Trump just nuked ABC news and Karl in this press conference. It was ***** great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dante Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: 44’s policy wasn’t to stop it. It was to exacerbate it by partnering w AQ, and illegally arming, funding, and training our enemies. 44 didn’t want to end the war in Syria. He sparked it and wanted it to grow into a tinderbox which would keep our forces in the region for another 10 years w no hope of completing their “mission”. Barry didn't have a policy. He was carrying out his masters policy. Obviously I don't have to tell you that. If it were up to Barry, Hillary and their bosses, we would be at war on multiple fronts. N.Korea, Russia and the mid east. Thank Christ we have someone sane/not fugging evil, in the White House to at least hold off some of the lunacy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Can confirm: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) The Bee has been having a pretty good day. Related: https://babylonbee.com/news/abc-news-labels-scene-from-1954s-godzilla-as-authentic-syria-footage Edited October 16, 2019 by KRC 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The man is a breath of fresh air no doubt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 17 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I buy it because that's what I'm told, constantly, by active duty members. It's also backed up by facts. The previous administration's policy was to leave the men and women on the ground exposed -- to both enemy fire and litigation from their own country. The ROE's enforced on the soldiers turned them into lawyers on the battlefield rather than what they're trained/supposed to be doing. That cost lives. Worse, the previous (several) administrations left the military vastly unprepared for the two decades worth of endless war we've asked them to perform. This administration's policies put the soldiers lives first, and they love him for it. It's not a controversial idea, it's just a fact. What happened in terms of the show of force is 100% in line with that policy/philosophy. Turkey endangered our pilots -- so a (non lethal) message was sent to deter that from repeating. ...as I await my new book, "Military Spending For Dummies" from Barnes & Noble, why is it the Dems consistently gut military spending and opt for the bullies' "world apology tour" whereas the GOP restores/increases military spending? .....what are the perceived negatives of being a superpower versus a limp wrist?....I missed the memo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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