Virgil Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) I understand that the players are grown-men and responsible for their actions. I get that injuries happen. But at some point, when does it stop being bad luck and start being someone making poor decisions to bring all of these people together? Karlos Williams had personal issues in college. Their were rumors of Shaq's injury. Dareus had issues his first few years. I could keep going. Again, I know there is a certain level of circumstance, but it gets to a point where you have to wonder. It's like that person in your life who always gets in trouble or get cheated on. You know they don't want it to happen, but they always find a way when no one else does. Just thoughts. Flame away. Edited August 20, 2016 by FireRex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 This is a question that'll be answered next off-season. Something tells me the myriad of 2016 off-season blunders, if the season doesn't produce a playoff team, will not be forgotten when 2017 rolls around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Someone needs to be fired for taking a chance on Incognito. Oh, I am sorry, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I'm not flaming but you can't keep millionaires under control unless they want to be. Hell UND had six players get in trouble last night including one getting two felonies. If they can't keep kids under control with their standards who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Whaley needs to go. this is his mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Again, I know there is a certain level of circumstance, but it gets to a point where you have to wonder. It's like that person in your life who always gets in trouble or get cheated on. You know they don't want it to happen, but they always find a way when no one else does. Talking about your P*ts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Whaley needs to go. this is his mess. Right. DW went completely rogue and he is solely to blame. Give me a break. Your constant negativity is really getting old. I can't tell if you're trolling or just the most miserable human being alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Someone needs to be fired for taking a chance on Incognito. Oh, I am sorry, never mind. Oh that right---never mind. Lifetime pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Accountable for what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhDozeBills Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) No doubt the Bills have rolled the dice on some players in terms of character issues. Some times it works and other times it doesn't. All teams have these issues, not just the Bills. People don't want to talk about all the good moves the Bills have made: Richie, Darby, Gillislee, Hughes, Schmidt, Taylor, Henderson in round 7, etc. Edited August 20, 2016 by OhDozeBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I'm not the most optimistic about this season but let's let it play out before we go firing everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Drafting high potential players with inherent risky qualities is what brought us here. We are witnessing the other side of the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Anatomy of a Bills crisis: 1) News breaks 2) Season is declared over. 3) Player blamed. 4) Coach blamed. 5) GM blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Way too many distractions this off season and into the preseason. Sure seems that the current front office is more willing to take chances on players with some stuff in their past than previous front offices. There have been a lot of unfortunate things that have happened, including injuries, suspensions, and involvement in a fight, but clearly some of it is bad luck (i.e., Ragland's injury). In terms of blame for the other stuff, seems like it should be spread around rather than assigning it to one person or group. At this point, the front office, the coaching staff, the medical staff, and the contract negotiators should all be on some kind of notice that they individually and collectively need to shape up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I understand that the players are grown-men and responsible for their actions. I get that injuries happen. But at some point, when does it stop being bad luck and start being someone making poor decisions to bring all of these people together? I feel the urge to blame someone. Karlos Williams had personal issues in college. Their were rumors Shaq's injury was a known possibility. Dareus had issues his first few years one other thing. I could keep going.(but I really can't.) Again, I know there is a certain level of circumstance, but it gets to a point where you have to wonder I need to blame someone. It's like that person in your life who always gets in trouble or get cheated on. You know they don't want it to happen, but they always find a way when no one else does need to blame someone. Just thoughts. Flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 crusade crusade crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Accountable for what exactly? Nothing. We're clearly firing on all cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Yeah I have gotta say.... Are we wishing we didn't take a chance on Karlos? He was pretty good last season. His commitment obviously wasn't there between the suspension and the weight gain, so we released him. Isn't this what we are told the good teams do? But now we can't even do what the good teams do, we have to make sure we are never ever in this situation or else its time to clean house! Nothing. We're clearly firing on all cylinders. You are right, we are clearly imploding. Edited August 20, 2016 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Anatomy of a Bills crisis: 1) News breaks 2) Season is declared over. 3) Player blamed. 4) Coach blamed. 5) GM blamed. 6) Bills fans scolded 7) Bills fans scolded 8) Bills fans scolded 9) Bills fans scolded 10) Bills fans scolded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Right. DW went completely rogue and he is solely to blame. Give me a break. Your constant negativity is really getting old. I can't tell if you're trolling or just the most miserable human being alive. Looks another dummy to block on this board eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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