Blokestradamus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Did he match up with Douglas much in that breakout game? Not much. I was tracking the run game more so I may have missed something but he had at least 3 of those catches vs Douglas. One was short of the sticks on 4th, great break by Douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Tears of joy from this morning's attempt: 16: R1P16LB HAASON REDDICKTEMPLE44: R2P12S BUDDA BAKERWASHINGTON47: R2P15OT CAM ROBINSONALABAMA75: R3P11WR CHRIS GODWINPENN STATE99: R3P35CB RASUL DOUGLASWEST VIRGINIA156: R5P12WR RYAN SWITZERNORTH CAROLINA171: R5P27CB MARQUEZ WHITEFLORIDA STATE195: R6P11LB JALEN REEVES-MAYBINTENNESSEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Tears of joy from this morning's attempt: 16: R1P16 LB HAASON REDDICK TEMPLE 44: R2P12 S BUDDA BAKER WASHINGTON 47: R2P15 OT CAM ROBINSON ALABAMA 75: R3P11 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE 99: R3P35 CB RASUL DOUGLAS WEST VIRGINIA 156: R5P12 WR RYAN SWITZER NORTH CAROLINA 171: R5P27 CB MARQUEZ WHITE FLORIDA STATE 195: R6P11 LB JALEN REEVES-MAYBIN TENNESSEE That draft would be amazing (despite adding a Maybin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That draft would be amazing (despite adding a Maybin). That was honestly my biggest hesitation! I really wanted to put Zane Gonzalez or CJ Beathard there instead just because of his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That was honestly my biggest hesitation! I really wanted to put Zane Gonzalez or CJ Beathard there instead just because of his name.I will probably get crucified for saying this but I always kind of liked CJ Beathard as a long-term #2 QB. I have softened a little and Josh Dobbs is my late round QB target (even though he looks super weird). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That was honestly my biggest hesitation! I really wanted to put Zane Gonzalez or CJ Beathard there instead just because of his name. What if we added a Mike Williams and a Maybin in the same draft? There aren't any Patulskis or Flowers in this draft, are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I will probably get crucified for saying this but I always kind of liked CJ Beathard as a long-term #2 QB. I have softened a little and Josh Dobbs is my late round QB target (even though he looks super weird). He's my late round QB prospect this year! Big fan of CJ and think his game would transition pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) He's my late round QB prospect this year! Big fan of CJ and think his game would transition pretty well.Beathard, to me, always felt like one of those guys that will be around forever. He is like a modern day McCown. There is some value in that role. Edited March 30, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Beathard, to me, always felt like one of those guys that will be around forever. He is like a modern day McCown. There is some value in that role. That's how I see Peterman but it doesn't look like he'll be drafted in the range that people will be happy with "just a backup" out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Tears of joy from this morning's attempt: 16: R1P16 LB HAASON REDDICK TEMPLE 44: R2P12 S BUDDA BAKER WASHINGTON 47: R2P15 OT CAM ROBINSON ALABAMA 75: R3P11 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE 99: R3P35 CB RASUL DOUGLAS WEST VIRGINIA 156: R5P12 WR RYAN SWITZER NORTH CAROLINA 171: R5P27 CB MARQUEZ WHITE FLORIDA STATE 195: R6P11 LB JALEN REEVES-MAYBIN TENNESSEE i believe this means you are "a idiot" Hokie. Where's the quarterback ahhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 i believe this means you are "a idiot" Hokie. Where's the quarterback ahhhhhhhhhh He's playing QB for UCLA this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 @DraftDiamonds Hearing the Buffalo Bills are working on the side with DE Trey Hendrickson of FAU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Tears of joy from this morning's attempt: 16: R1P16 LB HAASON REDDICK TEMPLE 44: R2P12 S BUDDA BAKER WASHINGTON 47: R2P15 OT CAM ROBINSON ALABAMA 75: R3P11 WR CHRIS GODWIN PENN STATE 99: R3P35 CB RASUL DOUGLAS WEST VIRGINIA 156: R5P12 WR RYAN SWITZER NORTH CAROLINA 171: R5P27 CB MARQUEZ WHITE FLORIDA STATE 195: R6P11 LB JALEN REEVES-MAYBIN TENNESSEE This is the best one yet. Wow this would be a dream come true (despite the Maybin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 That's how I see Peterman but it doesn't look like he'll be drafted in the range that people will be happy with "just a backup" out of him. This might sound backwards but I'd rather have a "McCown" than some guy with limited upside that I try to convince myself can be a franchise guy. Those guys end up washing out of the league as soon as everyone realizes they aren't a starter. Chase Daniel kicks around for over a decade. @DraftDiamonds Hearing the Buffalo Bills are working on the side with DE Trey Hendrickson of FAU I am a fan.He's playing QB for UCLA this year The Rosen One!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 This might sound backwards but I'd rather have a "McCown" than some guy with limited upside that I try to convince myself can be a franchise guy. Those guys end up washing out of the league as soon as everyone realizes they aren't a starter. Chase Daniel kicks around for over a decade. There is value in a steady backup. Over the summer, Cooper Rush and Sefo Liufau were my front-runners for that in this class. Kaaya/Peterman probably both end up somewhere on that spectrum too. As long as you have/continue to look for the answer for the franchise guy, those types can be incredibly handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 There is value in a steady backup. Over the summer, Cooper Rush and Sefo Liufau were my front-runners for that in this class. Kaaya/Peterman probably both end up somewhere on that spectrum too. As long as you have/continue to look for the answer for the franchise guy, those types can be incredibly handy. Agree 100% There are anywhere from zero (2013) to 3 (2004) "franchise QBs" in a particular class. You need to have the right scouting, draft class and picks to secure one. I'm not a huge fan of this class but 1 or 2 of these guys will probably succeed. I like next year's class and think that it could be up to 3 there. I don't know which 3 but, imo, it is the right time to take a swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 There is value in a steady backup. Over the summer, Cooper Rush and Sefo Liufau were my front-runners for that in this class. Kaaya/Peterman probably both end up somewhere on that spectrum too. Kaaya ends up that Hoyer / Fitzpatrick type guy for me. Who alternates between starter and backup throughout his career. Occasionally having runs where he looks like a starter and then following it with runs where he plays poorly enough to become entrenched as a backup before getting another shot somewhere else and rinse and repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Agree 100% There are anywhere from zero (2013) to 3 (2004) "franchise QBs" in a particular class. You need to have the right scouting, draft class and picks to secure one. I'm not a huge fan of this class but 1 or 2 of these guys will probably succeed. I like next year's class and think that it could be up to 3 there. I don't know which 3 but, imo, it is the right time to take a swing. I've made my thoughts pretty clear on Darnold thus far but I don't really see much in Rosen or Allen either at this point. Falk, Rudolph might stand a chance at progressing but I really don't see much in the way of a surefire thing, especially in the underclassmen group. If I like a QB in this class, I'm pulling the trigger. Simply because I'm not waiting 12 months on a bunch of What If? types next year. Obviously, how we feel about the current and future classes shapes the perspective we have on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I've made my thoughts pretty clear on Darnold thus far but I don't really see much in Rosen or Allen either at this point. Falk, Rudolph might stand a chance at progressing but I really don't see much in the way of a surefire thing, especially in the underclassmen group. If I like a QB in this class, I'm pulling the trigger. Simply because I'm not waiting 12 months on a bunch of What If? types next year. Obviously, how we feel about the current and future classes shapes the perspective we have on that. You have probably said somewhere here, but I'm not up to reading through all the threads. Do you like a qb in this class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I've made my thoughts pretty clear on Darnold thus far but I don't really see much in Rosen or Allen either at this point. Falk, Rudolph might stand a chance at progressing but I really don't see much in the way of a surefire thing, especially in the underclassmen group. If I like a QB in this class, I'm pulling the trigger. Simply because I'm not waiting 12 months on a bunch of What If? types next year. Obviously, how we feel about the current and future classes shapes the perspective we have on that. im actually one of the few who thinks Lamar Jackson is the best of all of them at this stage. Edited March 30, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) @tonypauline Colts head coach Chuck Pagano & LB coaches from Dallas Cowboys/Buffalo Bills on hand at Boise State pro day http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-march-30 Edited March 30, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Wow...I hadn't heard about this: Maine Underrated defensive line prospect Pat Ricard put on a show for scouts at the Maine pro day. He measured 6033 and 300 pounds, completed 33 reps on the bench and touched 33.5 inches in the vertical jump. He timed 5.00 in the 40 (including an amazing 10-yard split of 1.48s according to the APT report), 4.50s in the short shuttle and 7.50s in the three-cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 10: R1P10 CB MARSHON LATTIMORE OHIO STATE 44: R2P12 S OBI MELIFONWU CONNECTICUT 75: R3P11 WR JUJU SMITH-SCHUSTER USC 156: R5P12 WR MALACHI DUPRE LSU 171: R5P27 EDGE KEIONTA DAVIS CHATTANOOGA 195: R6P11 OT CONOR MCDERMOTT UCLA This is with hope that we pick up another LB somewhere. Other than not finding a QB I liked, when I liked, I would be extremely happy with this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If a team is looking for a NT, there are two that have exceptional measurables: Albany's Grover Stewart goes a cool 340 lbs, benches 30+ reps, and touched 26" in the vertical Idaho's Glen Antoine is possibly an ever greater freak, as he pushed up 37 reps and touched 31" in the vertical...at 337 lbs!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 What do you guys think of this NFL.com latest Mock 10.Mike Williams 44.Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 75.Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (Sidney Jones is taken 2 picks later) 156.Joe Mathis, OLB, Washington 171.Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000796324/article/reuter-5round-mock-draft-surprise-qb-lands-in-round-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 He's playing QB for UCLA this year If he's healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 What do you guys think of this NFL.com latest Mock 10.Mike Williams 44.Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 75.Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (Sidney Jones is taken 2 picks later) 156.Joe Mathis, OLB, Washington 171.Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000796324/article/reuter-5round-mock-draft-surprise-qb-lands-in-round-1 I like it assuming that Wilson is a safety for us. If not, then you take Jones with 75. You probably would either way, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I like it assuming that Wilson is a safety for us. If not, then you take Jones with 75. You probably would either way, actually. Thats why I pointed out that Jones could of been the pick. I thought Jones should of been the selection myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 He's playing QB for UCLA this year you mean USC @DraftDiamonds Hearing the Buffalo Bills are working on the side with DE Trey Hendrickson of FAU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 you mean USC Thank you for the validation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Wow...I hadn't heard about this: Maine Underrated defensive line prospect Pat Ricard put on a show for scouts at the Maine pro day. He measured 6033 and 300 pounds, completed 33 reps on the bench and touched 33.5 inches in the vertical jump. He timed 5.00 in the 40 (including an amazing 10-yard split of 1.48s according to the APT report), 4.50s in the short shuttle and 7.50s in the three-cone. If a team is looking for a NT, there are two that have exceptional measurables: Albany's Grover Stewart goes a cool 340 lbs, benches 30+ reps, and touched 26" in the vertical Idaho's Glen Antoine is possibly an ever greater freak, as he pushed up 37 reps and touched 31" in the vertical...at 337 lbs!!!! I had none of them on my lists Now I do! (Gracias Bandito!) Granted I havent seen or heard anything about them (not saying much), but aside from some freaky measurables, you got any thoughts on them? Others thoughts on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I had none of them on my lists Now I do! (Gracias Bandito!) Granted I havent seen or heard anything about them (not saying much), but aside from some freaky measurables, you got any thoughts on them? Others thoughts on them? I've seen some of Grover Stewart--he truly is a freak. He's country strong, especially his upper body. He's got a surprising amount interior of pass rush ability for such a big guy. No technique whatsoever though--he's got a ton of lower-body mechanical work to do, and his pad level is shoddy at best. He's an easy fit as a situational pass rusher as a rookie, and if a solid DL coach (like a Jim Washburn) can get his hands on him, he could become a Damon Harrison-type NT. The others I have to do more digging into, but I've heard really good things about Glen Antoine. He's a JuCo transfer who has the ideal build for a NT--short, squatty, serious bubble, and very solid athlete. I've seen very little of his tape though...only highlights. No idea on Ricard...not on my radar in any way/shape/form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 What do you guys think of this NFL.com latest Mock 10.Mike Williams 44.Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida 75.Cameron Sutton, CB, Tennessee (Sidney Jones is taken 2 picks later) 156.Joe Mathis, OLB, Washington 171.Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000796324/article/reuter-5round-mock-draft-surprise-qb-lands-in-round-1 I thought it could be better... 10 - Williams is ok, but I go Malik Hooker all day long if he's there. 44 - Wilson is a realistic pick, but I would go Budda if not for taking Hooker in Rd1, give me Marlon Humphrey or McDowell there instead. 75 - Sutton does not fit unless its in the nickel? Bad pick IMO, Give me Kupp or Goodwin, Cooper Kupp is my preference by a hair. 156 - Mathis could be a steal, so Id be ok with it even though I dont think he really fits schematically, I think given the state of the LB core at the WILL, I would go Elijah Lee. 171 - Chad Kelly in Buffalo just seems like a bad Idea, I get it, but a bad idea. Jonnu Smith (TE) IMO would be a solid value there as a move TE. I think this would be much better... 10 - Malik Hooker (FS) 44 - Marlon Humphrey (CB) 75 - Cooper Kupp (WR) 156 - Elijah Lee (WLB) 171 - Jonnu Smith (TE) I've seen some of Grover Stewart--he truly is a freak. He's country strong, especially his upper body. He's got a surprising amount interior of pass rush ability for such a big guy. No technique whatsoever though--he's got a ton of lower-body mechanical work to do, and his pad level is shoddy at best. He's an easy fit as a situational pass rusher as a rookie, and if a solid DL coach (like a Jim Washburn) can get his hands on him, he could become a Damon Harrison-type NT. The others I have to do more digging into, but I've heard really good things about Glen Antoine. He's a JuCo transfer who has the ideal build for a NT--short, squatty, serious bubble, and very solid athlete. I've seen very little of his tape though...only highlights. No idea on Ricard...not on my radar in any way/shape/form. Interesting, Ill try to take a look when I get back next week if I have time. Thank you for the response I appreciate it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) @MikeGarafolo VCU basketball player Mo Alie-Cox has informed NFL teams he will work out for them as a TE on April 11 near Richmond, VA. 6'7", 250 pound power forward. Turns 24 at the start of his potential rookie year. 85" arm span. Edited March 31, 2017 by Blokestradamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Blokes, I asked about you about Malik McDowell before, appreciate the willingness to discuss him and have not been able to craft a response I liked since. So here it goes; I get the athleticism, explosiveness and potential with him, so with him I guess it boils down to this; sell me that when adversity strikes, I can count on him, he's not "lazy" and he'll take to coaching if its possible from what you know of him. Thank you in advance, P51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) @tonypauline Colts head coach Chuck Pagano & LB coaches from Dallas Cowboys/Buffalo Bills on hand at Boise State pro day http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-march-30 its Tanner Vallejo they like Edited March 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) He ran a 4.37 today and his previous 2 seasons are 96-1,420-12 in 2016 and 64-1,012-11 in 2015. Small school always begs the competition question as evidenced by his lack of invitation to the Combine, but this guy also ran faster than all but 2 WRs who were invited to the Combine. Could be the burner to complement Holmes' possession-suited attributes. He's been consistently around in the 5th round for my mock draft simulations, but then again he just recently posted that 40 time. Thoughts on Chad Williams, WR, Grambling? http://whodatdish.com/2017/03/21/wide-receiver-chad-williams-brought-the-house-down-in-ruston/ http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700673-2017-nfl-draft-biggest-winners-losers-of-pro-day-workouts-so-far Edit: and... 1: R1P10 DL JONATHAN ALLEN ALABAMA 2: R2P12 CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA 3: R3P11 S JUSTIN EVANS TEXAS A&M 4: R5P12 WR CHAD WILLIAMS GRAMBLING 5: R5P27 DE KEIONTA DAVIS UT-CHATTANOOGA 6: R6P11 QB CHAD KELLY OLE MISS Edited March 31, 2017 by JohnBonhamRocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 That draft would be amazing (despite adding a Maybin). I would replace Maybin with Chad Kelly.....bam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Thank you for the validation! Rosen has potential, wasn't the greatest last year, injuries didn't help either. If Darnold plays like last yr let alone improve he will be the top pick, no doubt about it. we need to make a trade with Cleveland or SF THIS yr for their NEXT yrs number one draft pick. This way we can get the top pick in the draft and if not use our two firsts to get the top pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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