Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think that posters often turn a blind eye as to what Gilmore would/will cost the Bills next season. It is depressing. Here is the contract of Darelle Revis: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/darrelle-revis/ He's got 16 million in 2015, 17 million in 2016, and 7 million in 2017 GUARANTEED!!!!!!!!!! And you can bet that if he is still playing at or even near this level in 2 or 3 years, he will hold out for more guarantees. When Revis signed this deal he was approx. 30, and coming off serious surgery. Gilmore is much younger, healthier, and the cap is going up, not down. He could easily get a deal where he is paid in the vicinity of 15 million per season. I for one do not think he is worth this kind of money/cap space. Hey, maybe he IS worth it, but not imho. I think we should use the money that would have gone towards McKelvin and use it towards Gilmore's new contract CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 We have him for 2 years on this contract......but I def would not wait for 2 years to do the deal The final year is voidable if he starts 80% of the games in either years. He has started 7 of 9 so far but one of them was as a wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The final year is voidable if he starts 80% of the games in either years. He has started 7 of 9 so far but one of them was as a wide receiver. The way I read it is if he plays more than 50% of the Offensive snaps in either of the first 2 years. Is this inaccurate? http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/3/18/8236345/tyrod-taylor-contract-details-buffalo-bills-qb-nfl-free-agency-2015 The most interesting piece of the contract, also tied to Taylor's playing time, is a voidable clause. If Taylor plays in over 50 percent of the Bills' plays in either 2015 or 2016, and remains on the roster five days following the 2016 Super Bowl, the third year of the contract voids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I am sure I read 80%. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoverbills Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Taylor is 5-2 as a starter, with losses only to New England and Cincinnati. He has won on the road and he has won when most of his offensive weapons have been hurt. He has particular strengths including leadership that are hard to find. Just as important, there is no aspect to his game which is below average, except his height, and tell than to Russell Wilson. He has been in the league long enough to know what's what. He reads defenses well the majority of the time and he's continuing to improve at that. He has a great arm and can make all the throws, including deep outs that don't hang in the air. And he runs extremely well. The Bills offense this year was not built to take full advantage of Taylor's mobility but it will be next year. Bottom line, huge upside. I realize the Bills were burned by falling in love too quickly with Fitz. There is no rush to re-do Taylor's contract. But if the Bills finish strong (could still miss the playoffs due to EJ's blown games) I think they'll re-sign him in the spring. As yourself if you've enjoyed waiting for Jim Kelly's successor to appear. Taylor isn't Kelly but he's the best we've had since Kelly. The team is 5-2. Last week the special teams and defense won the game. Plus good running game. And he didn't start in the Cincinnati game, EJ did. McCoy and Watkins played in 5 of the seven games that TT started and they are 4-1 with them together and one game that McCoy didn't play Williams started and that was Giants game that they lost. He won one game without them guys and he threw for 109 yds and ran for 76 yds. First quarter stats of that game Tenn 115 yards and 7 first downs. Buffalo 7 yards and 0 first downs. He won the game with his legs in the second half of game and that was Mariota worst game of the year. Edited November 19, 2015 by Hanoverbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The team is 5-2. Last week the special teams and defense won the game. Plus good running game. And he didn't start in the Cincinnati game, EJ did. McCoy and Watkins played in 5 of the seven games that TT started and they are 4-1 with them together and one game that McCoy didn't play Williams started and that was Giants game that they lost. He won one game without them guys and he threw for 109 yds and ran for 76 yds. First quarter stats of that game Tenn 115 yards and 7 first downs. Buffalo 7 yards and 0 first downs. He won the game with his legs in the second half of game and that was Mariota worst game of the year. It is amazing the lengths people will go to to try to discredit the first good QB we have actually had in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 It is amazing the lengths people will go to to try to discredit the first good QB we have actually had in a while The grass is always greener no matter how many times you jump over the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It is amazing the lengths people will go to to try to discredit the first good QB we have actually had in a while Discredit or critique? Jerry has a few words on the subject Taylor still has much to prove as franchise QB [1:56 AM] Buffalo News reports: 'Still, I remain unconvinced about Taylor as the Bills’ franchise quarterback. He has some gaudy statistics, and a 5-2 record as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 @AlbertBreer As I just said on GDM, Redskins have had very preliminary contract talks with QB Kirk Cousins. Likely to intensify after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Discredit or critique? Jerry has a few words on the subject Taylor still has much to prove as franchise QB [1:56 AM] Buffalo News reports: 'Still, I remain unconvinced about Taylor as the Bills’ franchise quarterback. He has some gaudy statistics, and a 5-2 record as a starter. Please tell me you are not presenting Jerry drivel please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Is cousins good or does he suck again ? What's the weekly update ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Is cousins good or does he suck again ? What's the weekly update ? Hard to tell since he was playing against the Panthers and his team made some bone headed plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Is cousins good or does he suck again ? What's the weekly update ? He still sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I saw at least three turnovers. He still stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The original question of how much and when to pay TT. Why give him a contract for next year? If your thinking you can get him lower, but what if he doesn't play as well next year. If you have two full years of solid performance at a low price, you resign your studs, Gilmore, Glenn, and Bradham, in that order. Gilmore has done so well this year, and Glenn is the 4th best rated LT in the League. You wait for the cap to go up twice, get the new TNF money when it goes to a network for 16 games, and the cap goes up significantly, if Yahoo gets the OUS contract, that's even more money, and now you have room for TT is he is excellent. You also can restructure or in two years re-evaluate Mario's contract. By that time, he may have to accept less. Meanwhile, I trust Whaley for two more solid drafts with at least three starters per draft, and we're good. It's funny seeing late round guys for us like Cockrell goes to the Steelers and he is a starter. That ought to tell you areas where we are deep are starting for other solid teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Local DC 980 sports radio following Skins games - Rumor mill was that they were to give Cousins an extension this week and now they speculate that the $ figure is sure to drop after yesterdays meh performance. Please tell me you are not presenting Jerry drivel please I try not to. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then. I wouldn't think about any extensions until deep into the 2016 season so he can prove his worth. Prove to us what you have then talk $ 5-2 + missed 2 games w/injury. At home he dug a deep hole vs NE* with 2 INT's, got whooped on by the Giants, then on the road barely got past the 2-8 Titans. Sure, I'll give him a Mulligan for he week 2 Cheatriots game but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 @AdamSchefter: By playing tonight, QB Tyrod Taylor should ensure he plays 50% of Buffalos plays this year, voiding last year of his contract, per sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Local DC 980 sports radio following Skins games - Rumor mill was that they were to give Cousins an extension this week and now they speculate that the $ figure is sure to drop after yesterdays meh performance. I try not to. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then. I wouldn't think about any extensions until deep into the 2016 season so he can prove his worth. Prove to us what you have then talk $ 5-2 + missed 2 games w/injury. At home he dug a deep hole vs NE* with 2 INT's, got whooped on by the Giants, then on the road barely got past the 2-8 Titans. Sure, I'll give him a Mulligan for he week 2 Cheatriots game but not much else. That's one way to lose a guy in the off season. If they offer him a deal and then he loses to the best team in the nfc and they say...now we're offering less! He will walk negotiating like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I saw at least three turnovers. He still stinks. He will get a new contract with the Redskins. How much? I can't say. But he will be their starting qb for the foreseeable future. If their coaching staff and front office believe that he can be a capable qb, and they do, he will be signing the contract documents this offseason. The Skins set their program back by years with the monstrous draft deal to acquire RGIII. It was a disaster that set the franchise back by years. Odds are even if the Skins were in position to draft a good qb prospect they would be reluctant to do so. It has been reported by the local media that preliminary discussions have taken place with a deal to be completed before the start of the next season. Edited November 23, 2015 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think we all knew this but fwiw @AdamSchefter: Tyrod Taylor has 3-year contract that's now expected to be voided to 2 years after tonight, which would make next season last on his deal. @SalSports: Will still be under contract next season - FA after 2016. Team will most likely look to sign him before that. https://t.co/X8qKem27pv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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