jimmy10 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I have seen some on here mention comment sections, as if "the people aren't getting it". Please. Profootballtalk is an arm of whom? NBC Sports, which also owns the rights to Sunday Night Football, which is how big of an account? Billions, if I recall? I wonder if they might have a few "account managers" deciding which comments get the top few spots. Everyone is in absolute damage control in the league marketing division right now, and people are getting testy. Thank you for pointing this out. Web brigades leaving fake comments, or "astroturfing" (fake "grassroots," get it?) to direct conversation is absolutely a real phenomenon in social media. Paid shills will comment on and up-vote all manner of subjects, depending on who is doing the paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 First, it makes me physically ill to think the scumbag franchise cheated all those years and were set up to be the 'model' franchise due to their illegitimate 'success' - there is absolutely no doubt in my mind they never would have won anything (no genius Bellicheat, no GOAT Brady) without the systemic cheating in multiple different forms that existed for years. The thing that I think is most crazy in all of this, is the line Goodell has been forced to walk now. After selling his soul to the devil and covering up the full extent of Spygate, he's in the unbelievable position now to be at war with the Cheatriots, while having the knowledge to blow the lid off of the full(er) extent of the pervasive cheating they did for all those years, but can't because then the league is exposed as being a complete sham, and he is complicit. It's insane. This^ Thank you for pointing this out. Web brigades leaving fake comments, or "astroturfing" (fake "grassroots," get it?) to direct conversation is absolutely a real phenomenon in social media. Paid shills will comment on and up-vote all manner of subjects, depending on who is doing the paying. Sickening, isn't it! :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 And here comes Florio... ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 12m12 minutes ago Mike Martz's statement about the Patriots was published in 2008, and it hasn't changed since then http://wp.me/p14QSB-9QzL "...But the Martz statement posted Tuesday by ESPN.com is identical to the statement he issued in May 2008. The full text was copied and pasted from an article by Mike Reiss (then of the Boston Globe; the link to his story is now dead) to the website PatsFan.com, and portions of it appeared in a May 2008 story from the Associated Press....Maybe ESPN will make the change now. Right after it changes the story that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were two pounds under the 12.5 PSI minimum." Of course he goes to Patsfan.com... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I don't know how Belichick still has a job. Sorry. Mmmm, maybe 'cuz his boss Kraft is one of thes "Just Win, Baby!" anything is justified if you do, kind of guys? The sad thing is, Belicheat*** may be one of the greatest coaches of all time. But once 3 types of cheating are uncovered (signal videotaping, stealing play sheets from locker rooms, having opponents radios go dead on critical plays), it leaves unanswered what kind of cheating was just never caught or uncovered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 And here comes Florio... ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 12m12 minutes ago Mike Martz's statement about the Patriots was published in 2008, and it hasn't changed since then http://wp.me/p14QSB-9QzL "...But the Martz statement posted Tuesday by ESPN.com is identical to the statement he issued in May 2008. The full text was copied and pasted from an article by Mike Reiss (then of the Boston Globe; the link to his story is now dead) to the website PatsFan.com, and portions of it appeared in a May 2008 story from the Associated Press....Maybe ESPN will make the change now. Right after it changes the story that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were two pounds under the 12.5 PSI minimum." Of course he goes to Patsfan.com... I am beginning to think Florio also may have been "mingling" with Robert Kraft at that party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Just watched the first 10 minutes of Inside the NFL and it was all about this crap with the Patriots. Turn on the NFL network and it's Willie Mcginnist defending them. Turn on ESPN and it's Bruschi walking on water. Every damn Total Access all summer had a reporter in New York yacking about this. Every. Single. Show. I am tired of hearing about these cheating punks and hope we beat them silly this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I am beginning to think Florio also may have been "mingling" with Robert Kraft at that party. Fu&^ what a homer he is... Just watched the first 10 minutes of Inside the NFL and it was all about this crap with the Patriots. Turn on the NFL network and it's Willie Mcginnist defending them. Turn on ESPN and it's Bruschi walking on water. Every damn Total Access all summer had a reporter in New York yacking about this. Every. Single. Show. I am tired of hearing about these cheating punks and hope we beat them silly this year Of Course they will defend them..Their careers are all tainted too; it doesn't help them seeing that they are taints anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 You do realize Buffalo will be the first road game for the stinking cheaters. How we greet these turds in helmets will be news on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 You do realize Buffalo will be the first road game for the stinking cheaters. How we greet these turds in helmets will be news on Monday. I'm not sure we've done enough to overcome the Belichek*** Tub of Entrails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I said from day one deflate gate had nothing to do with air pressure. It was about the cover up of Spygate and burning the tapes. Roger bailed them out once and they cheated again. I'm not the only one to have this thought but I posted it several times. Roger is complicit in the cover-up with his buddy Robert Kraft. Only Robert forgot the rules of a cover-up. He threw the wrong guy under the bus. Brady needed to do his time for the good of the organization. Roger can only keep the other 31 owners at bay for so long. This is a conspiracy. And not an imaginary one. It is just a matter of time before the right whistleblower with the right evidence takes them down. This is bad enough to vacate wins and championships. It is bad enough to affect HOF eligibity. And for Mr. Kraft and Mr. Bundchen's sake they better hope Vegas didn't lose a ton of money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Just watched the first 10 minutes of Inside the NFL and it was all about this crap with the Patriots. Turn on the NFL network and it's Willie Mcginnist defending them. Turn on ESPN and it's Bruschi walking on water. Every damn Total Access all summer had a reporter in New York yacking about this. Every. Single. Show. I am tired of hearing about these cheating punks and hope we beat them silly this year I've stopped watching NFL network because of this. it's as though half the league doesn't even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) there certainly can be some logic to goodell's harsh punishment of brady as a make-up call for spygate. however that doesn't mean there was more to the original infraction, from what was known about it the penalty was already too soft Edited September 9, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 You do realize Buffalo will be the first road game for the stinking cheaters. How we greet these turds in helmets will be news on Monday. Right. The question is, how to show a sufficient level of disdain while not getting yourself kicked out of the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'm looking forward to some good signs in the stands this year as the pats**** go on the road. I hope some of them get past the tv filters like the "tom brady sits when he pees" sign did a few years ago. The "cheaters exit here" sign in the article was awesome. I had never seen that one before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Do they have one HOFer besides Brady (and Gronk if he stays healthy) during this whole dynasty?...........Now it's making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 i wish the bills FO had the stones to blare this at a somewhat quiet moment during the PATS GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Thank you for pointing this out. Web brigades leaving fake comments, or "astroturfing" (fake "grassroots," get it?) to direct conversation is absolutely a real phenomenon in social media. Paid shills will comment on and up-vote all manner of subjects, depending on who is doing the paying. yes. people should stop paying attention to the comment sections, and look at the people posting ON THOSE SAME PAGES "i made 5000 a week working from home, ask me how". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Not a ton new there for those who've been paying attention, but it's nice to have all (or most, as there are things they missed, like PED use among their core of "aging vets" who seem to regain a step when joining them (see Harrison, Rodney) and Ted Johnson's statement that sometimes right before a game the other team's audible list would appear taped on their lockers) there in one place. The one new thing (at least to me) was the implications of attempted bribery of a Senator, to wit: "In his 2012 book, "Life Among the Cannibals," Specter wrote that a powerful friend -- he wouldn't name the person -- told him that if he "laid off the Patriots," there could be a lot of money for him in Palm Beach. Specter told the friend, "I couldn't care less."" That, to me, if true, is a major new item that should have been investigated. That's a felony, folks. Amazing, even for the Pats*..... Thank you for pointing this out. Web brigades leaving fake comments, or "astroturfing" (fake "grassroots," get it?) to direct conversation is absolutely a real phenomenon in social media. Paid shills will comment on and up-vote all manner of subjects, depending on who is doing the paying. Even my wife (who works in marketing and is very familiar with astroturfers on social media) noticed that odd trend earlier this summer on Deflategate-related stories--lots of similar posts from folks with ridiculous handles (her favorite was "DebfromNebraska", a true Pats* fan) that sound made up and lots of up postings of pro-Pats* comments coming in swarms (as opposed to coming in naturally over time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Phil specter is just a "hater" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I wish we could interfere with Tommy*s helmet radio and pipe in some wild interference during the entire time his headset is on... meaning till after he gets rid of the ball on every play. Fargin Cheaters**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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