LeGOATski Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 You think they would stand on that principle if it was just that, and accept a four game suspension because of the principal. Ha. Not a chance. Right. That seems like as good a chance as any to prove their innocence, but they declined. Reading about this investigation just reminds me about how much cheating there is in the NFL. In this instance, burying my head in the sand seems like a good idea. I just want to watch football and believe that it's all fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Will Goodell finally rul on the Just Give It To Them and Miracle City Throwup games? I hope so and look forward to him overturning those results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) No. It's the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law. if the rule is turn over your documents when asked for them, why should the nfl have "spirit of the rule" any more than a variety of other offenses that are simple transgressions with a predetermined outcome? if the nfl REALLY thinks you have proof you get suspended, but if they only kind of do then you dont? why dont we just as easily assume gostowskis phone has the smoking gun due to his refusal? is it a game of chicken where sometimes you say no and its fine and others you get suspended? Edited June 22, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 if the rule is turn over your documents when asked for them, why should the nfl have "spirit of the rule" any more than a variety of other offenses that are simple transgressions with a predetermined outcome? if the nfl REALLY thinks you have proof you get suspended, but if they only kind of do then you dont? why dont we just as easily assume gostowskis phone has the smoking gun due to his refusal? is it a game of chicken where sometimes you say no and its fine and others you get suspended? In their independent Investigation of the kicking balls they found no problem with the balls. There was nothing to hide. In the Brady investigation there were dozens of unanswered questions that needed more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 @pecrawleynfl: Good primer from @judybattista heading into Tom Brady's appeal hearing tomorrow. http://t.co/LaOHBUwAlY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 In their independent Investigation of the kicking balls they found no problem with the balls. There was nothing to hide. In the Brady investigation there were dozens of unanswered questions that needed more information. if he had nothing to hide with the handling of balls, why didnt he turn his documents in? (just giving you the same argument many are making here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Are our resident Pats fans still reaching for excuses? Most people, by now, would have moved on from "bargaining" to "acceptance." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 if he had nothing to hide with the handling of balls, why didnt he turn his documents in? (just giving you the same argument many are making here)Don't know and don't care. Maybe he said I didn't do anything wrong and you guys haven't accused me of doing wrong and no one else has either. If you have something against me then maybe I will. My best guess is the Patriots have a team policy of deny everything no matter what. Actually that could be a reason. He was told by team counsel not to as part of a strategy that included Brady not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Are our resident Pats fans still reaching for excuses? Most people, by now, would have moved on from "bargaining" to "acceptance." Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 @pecrawleynfl: Good primer from @judybattista heading into Tom Brady's appeal hearing tomorrow. http://t.co/LaOHBUwAlY Finally! What seems to me to be an unbiased summary with all the options and possible outcomes. here's to good reporting! #Florioisapatriotsshill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 And the snow job of the NFL goes on. Gooodie Dell will take care of Kraft for his being a good guy taking one for the team and let Brady off easy. I'm afraid too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 @pecrawleynfl: Good primer from @judybattista heading into Tom Brady's appeal hearing tomorrow. http://t.co/LaOHBUwAlY The comments from the Pats* fans at the end of that article are precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) The comments from the Pats* fans at the end of that article are precious. As are any comments that can be comprehended from a Pats* fan. Edited June 22, 2015 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Most overlooked aspect in Brady case -- The NFL's new investigative arm, how lack of cooperation must be dealt with http://t.co/LCr3nReS1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 BURN HERSHES A WITCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Most overlooked aspect in Brady case -- The NFL's new investigative arm, how lack of cooperation must be dealt with http://t.co/LCr3nReS1x ...it's become about far more than whether or not a quarterback ordered a dozen game balls to be deflated. ...which is why (in the league's eyes) lack of cooperation must be dealt with harshly. In that regard, Brady's timing couldn't be worse. Some of us were recently arguing this very point in another thread, but the most intractable Pats* fans can't seem to grasp this simple concept. Instead, it has to be about a picayune issue like air pressure and how the NFL overreacted to such a trivial matter. I think OC referred to it as "BenSmithing." GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 BURN HER SHES A WITCH! Yes she** is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 BURN HER SHES A WITCH! How awesome would it be if they had a huge medieval scale sitting in the conference room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 How awesome would it be if they had a huge medieval scale sitting in the conference room? oh, pretty awesome, i think ! Yes she** is !! well done ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 How awesome would it be if they had a huge medieval scale sitting in the conference room? Throw her into the pond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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