mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Rex's total contract salary is more than all previous head coaches the Bills have employed combined during the playoff drought. I just thought that it shows an incredible level of commitment not seen in our area for a very long time, quite impressive. GO BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Interesting, but I'd be more interested in some links or numbers to go along with your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 My own story, I ran the numbers & Rex = More. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 My own story, I ran the numbers & Rex = More. Sweet. Please provide those numbers. What did Williams, Mularkey, Jauron, Gailey, and Marrone make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Makes sense since he's the only one who had significant HC experience when hired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 In the case of coaches.....scouting........etc etc You get what you pay for And it goes further then just the ability to run a NFL offense and defense.......its also about being legit and a place that players will actually WANT to go play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Probably figured they had to pay him enough to have him not just go to TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Probably figured they had to pay him enough to have him not just go to TV.from everything we heard,he really preferred to stay in coaching and only as a HC (Not intererestedin going back to DC). He said he thought about doing TV if he didn't land a HC opportunity, but it wasn't his first choice because he thought it would be harder to get back in with a year in TV than it would be fresh off of a HC job, and he said he knew he wasn't done. But, he says this is his last stop as a HC. Edited April 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 My own story, I ran the numbers & Rex = More. -2 Show your work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I believe the MSM refers to this as the "Buffalo Tax." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I kind of have a tough time believing that. Like the idea of seeing the numbers-- please. Marrone took 4 mil just for leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I kind of have a tough time believing that. Like the idea of seeing the numbers-- please. Marrone took 4 mil just for leaving. I'll even help OP out... Rex's deal is worth $27.5mil. We've been in the drought for 15 years. So those 5 coaches (not counting Fewell) would have to average $1.833mil/year to be at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 may he RIP Ralph was cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Ralph was generous in many ways, but was convinced by his bean counter buddy Littman that he didn't need to be when it came to coaches. I don't know if Littman could even spell "football" but anyone in the league knows good coaches and front offices are the difference. Littman's departure alone should equal 2 or 3 more wins per year. Probably a little less profit but I don't think the Pegulas are eating mac and cheese every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The Bills dumpster diving for coaches is over. Hopefully the Bills won't have to look for another HC for a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas55 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 In a league where parity rules, coaching takes on great importance. Beyond the head coach, the quality of coordinators and position coaches is critical. To acquire this expertise, you have to spend dollars, a concept completely lost on Ralph W. as he accumulated his billion dollars + fortune. This of course is reflected in the very sad win/loss record of this franchise. Enjoy it WNY, this is what it feels like when you have a real NFL owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'll even help OP out... Rex's deal is worth $27.5mil. We've been in the drought for 15 years. So those 5 coaches (not counting Fewell) would have to average $1.833mil/year to be at that. so in other words the thread title needs changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Is Littman gone?? Never heard that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Is Littman gone?? Never heard that . Yep, he was basically a member of Ralph's "family", oversaw their financials, and worked for Mary as they got the team sold. Once Pegula came in, he left with the Wilsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The Bills dumpster diving for coaches is over. Hopefully the Bills won't have to look for another HC for a whole. Well, technically, Rex and most of his staff were in the Jets dumpster when Pegs hired him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Fine but atleast Rex was the "how can someone throw this out?" in said dumpster. Not the "eeeeewwww what is that brown stuff in the corner?" Aka all previous head coaches in the last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) My own story, I ran the numbers & Rex = More. Edited April 13, 2015 by Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 In a league where parity rules, coaching takes on great importance. Beyond the head coach, the quality of coordinators and position coaches is critical. To acquire this expertise, you have to spend dollars, a concept completely lost on Ralph W. as he accumulated his billion dollars + fortune. This of course is reflected in the very sad win/loss record of this franchise. Enjoy it WNY, this is what it feels like when you have a real NFL owner yes. it shows. No shot at Mr Wilson ever. But wow. we gots us some real coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Was the Rex Mobile part of the contract? I thought I heard that it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 so in other words the thread title needs changed Just checking back in on this thread. Still no numbers, eh? Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'll even help OP out... Rex's deal is worth $27.5mil. We've been in the drought for 15 years. So those 5 coaches (not counting Fewell) would have to average $1.833mil/year to be at that. That actually seems believable until you factor in the years when we were actually paying multiple coaches due to firings and whatever the hell you call what happened with Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Ralph was generous in many ways, but was convinced by his bean counter buddy Littman that he didn't need to be when it came to coaches. I don't know if Littman could even spell "football" but anyone in the league knows good coaches and front offices are the difference. Littman's departure alone should equal 2 or 3 more wins per year. Probably a little less profit but I don't think the Pegulas are eating mac and cheese every night. This is insane. Two seasons ago, Ralph hired Marronne, one of the hot college head coaches who was coveted by many teams. I thought they paid him something like 4M a year including the sweet out clause. Ralph was not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is insane. Two seasons ago, Ralph hired Marronne, one of the hot college head coaches who was coveted by many teams. I thought they paid him something like 4M a year including the sweet out clause. Ralph was not cheap. I dare you to use any poll of football fans to prove that Marrone was a "hot college coach". Unless you're asking Russ Brandon, how exactly would hiring Doug Marrone and his Syracuse OC be considered "hot"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I dare you to use any poll of football fans to prove that Marrone was a "hot college coach". Unless you're asking Russ Brandon, how exactly would hiring Doug Marrone and his Syracuse OC be considered "hot"? Go back two years and the only guy hotter was seemingly the possibility of chip Kelly. If that pr reflected nfl sentiments is a legit question but ESPN, Twitter and more had him at the top of lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 -2 Show your work! Otherwise you won't get full credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I dare you to use any poll of football fans to prove that Marrone was a "hot college coach". Unless you're asking Russ Brandon, how exactly would hiring Doug Marrone and his Syracuse OC be considered "hot"? He was. He was offered the Browns job too The best thing to ever happen to the Bills was for him to quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Go back two years and the only guy hotter was seemingly the possibility of chip Kelly. If that pr reflected nfl sentiments is a legit question but ESPN, Twitter and more had him at the top of lists. And even in January 2015, everyone in ESPN, NFL, CBS had Marrone at the top of the list for HC vacancies. They were very sure that he will be the #1 sought HC for Jets, Falcons and even Chicago. I dare you to use any poll of football fans to prove that Marrone was a "hot college coach". Unless you're asking Russ Brandon, how exactly would hiring Doug Marrone and his Syracuse OC be considered "hot"? I guess you were tucked inside your basement two winters ago!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Go back two years and the only guy hotter was seemingly the possibility of chip Kelly. If that pr reflected nfl sentiments is a legit question but ESPN, Twitter and more had him at the top of lists. That's my point, though. He's a top guy based on what? An interview with the Cleveland Browns? Again, ask anyone and he was not a "hot" candidate. I don't doubt there was a lot of bogus PR spinning it after we hired him, but he wasn't the "hot" candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That's my point, though. He's a top guy based on what? An interview with the Cleveland Browns? Again, ask anyone and he was not a "hot" candidate. I don't doubt there was a lot of bogus PR spinning it after we hired him, but he wasn't the "hot" candidate. who am i supposed to ask, in this ask anyone if he was a hot candidate for nfl jobs 2 years ago? i cant say i have many gms and front office personnel on speed dial. even before he was signed he was a "hot name" publicly. he interviewed with us, philly, and cleveland, and the chiefs were allegedly high on him. peter king had him in the top 5 college coaches that nfl teams would want. he was a guy that was viewed as having NFL background, and generally college success. if you want to argue HOT vs pretty warm - ill have no issue but you cant pretend that he came out of nowhere and it was all post-hire PR. multiple NFL teams were interested in the guy, and nfl writers were covering him as the top college guy not named chip kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Well, technically, Rex and most of his staff were in the Jets dumpster when Pegs hired him... Nah Rex threw the Jets in the dumpster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 who am i supposed to ask, in this ask anyone if he was a hot candidate for nfl jobs 2 years ago? Obviously... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/01/report-cleveland-buffalo-to-interview-syracuse-coach-doug-marrone/ "Syracuse head coach Doug Marrone is already proving to be a hot commodity among teams looking for their next head coach." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Well, technically, Rex and most of his staff were in the Jets dumpster when Pegs hired him... Actually......like a total soldier he and his staff didnt quit on the jets (like a certain HC did who is now a offensive line coach but I wont mention any names but his last name starts with M and sounds a lot like "MORON" but anyways Rex Ryan gave his all to the jets right up until they fired him.....even though the management above him OBVIOUSLY didnt give him the tools he needed to win at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualThreatQB Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Total known: $24.5 Million. Seven missing years. Rex Ryan: $27.5 Million I'm going to guess that Gailey and Williams made more than $3 Million combined in the six years they coached (average salary would be less than $500,000). Surprisingly couldn't find Gailey or Williams with a bit of web searching. Not sure where else to look for those. 2015 Marrone $4 Million 2014 Marrone $4 Million 2013 Marrone $4 Million 2012 Gailey ? 2011 Gailey ? 2010 Gailey ? + Jauron $3 Million 2009 Jauron $3 Million 2008 Jauron $1.5 Million 2007 Jauron $1.5 Million 2006 Jauron $1.5 Million 2005 Mularkey $1 Million 2004 Mularkey $1 Million 2003 Williams ? 2002 Williams ? 2001 Williams ? 2000 Phillips ? Mularkey : http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2289987 Doug Marrone: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12104824/doug-marrone-opts-contract-buffalo-bills Jauron 2009-2010: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4664167 Jauron 2006-2008: http://www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesNFLCoaches.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Doug's walk away money was not for him to coach, it was an option out when they worked out his contract a few years ago and doesn't count. We were also not paying Doug $4 Million a year, it was about $1.75 M a year so go ahead and adjust the math then you'll find about $9.7 M extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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