17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) see Redskins beat Reporter and Gruden leaker of info from yesterday http://sportsglory.com/nfl/jay-gruden-wants-redskins-to-trade-robert-griffin-iii/38207 Its being talked about and reported on ESPN'S web page today that the Skins head coach Gruden wants RG3 gone. It just not his style of Qb that fits his offense You can't really force a square peg into a round hole and thats why he wants him gone. When you read the questions in the mail bag. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2405097-redskins-mailbag-part-2 http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16163/redskins-mailbag-part-2-65 The reporter speculates that it will take a QB coming back to the Skins to get a trade completed. I think Gruden really likes Colt Mccoy and I think he will win the job. It does not make sense to keep RG3 because he is going to walk anyways. The water is poisoned In Washington for RG3. He will want a fresh start so the Skins would be wise to move him while they can still get something for him before he leaves via free agency. If you read the tea leaves and can forecast the future my bet is they will trade RG3 and probably do it at the draft. My question is would you trade E.J Manual and a middle round draft pick for RG3. I know I would, I am really hoping this goes down. I do not see how the Skins can go through another year of Drama and have him be the back-up to Colt McCoy. I really think they are going to move RG3 and if the Bills can land him and get him some good coaching under Roman then we are ready for a Superbowl run. I am on record of fully supporting this move. I hope it happens. I can't wait for the draft to see all moves and trades. If the Rams and Eagles can swap QB'S why not the Bills and Skins, it would do both players good to get a restart on there careers. Edited March 22, 2015 by billsareback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Im not sure trading for a busted wheels, inaccurate, can't read a defense QB is better than keeping our own inaccurate QB and a draft pick Bob Griffen has been awful since he came back injury. AWFUL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 so why not roll the dice and give it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 No way this is true. Griffin is horrible. I can't see Whaley making a dumb move like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Its being talked about and reported on ESPN'S web page today that the Skins head coach Gruden wants RG3 gone. It just not his style of Qb that fits his offense You can't really force a square peg into a round hole and thats why he wants him gone. When you read the questions in the mail bag. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2405097-redskins-mailbag-part-2 http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16163/redskins-mailbag-part-2-65 The reporter speculates that it will take a QB coming back to the Skins to get a trade completed. I think Gruden really likes Colt Mccoy and I think he will win the job. It does not make sense to keep RG3 because he is going to walk anyways. The water is poisoned In Washington for RG3. He will want a fresh start so the Skins would be wise to move him while they can still get something for him before he leaves via free agency. If you read the tea leaves and can forecast the future my bet is they will trade RG3 and probably do it at the draft. My question is would you trade E.J Manual and a middle round draft pick for RG3. I know I would, I am really hoping this goes down. I do not see how the Skins can go through another year of Drama and have him be the back-up to Colt McCoy. I really think they are going to move RG3 and if the Bills can land him and get him some good coaching under Roman then we are ready for a Superbowl run. I am on record of fully supporting this move. I hope it happens. I can't wait for the draft to see all moves and trades. If the Rams and Eagles can swap QB'S why not the Bills and Skins, it would do both players good to get a restart on there careers. I don't think that it will happen but I am all for it. I see RG3 as the boom or bust guy that can get you over the top. You have to get lucky to land a franchise QB when you are not picking in the top 5. The Bills won't be picking there for quite some time. If RG is healthy and returns to form this team is a Super Bowl contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 I respect your opinion but I disagree. RG3 just needs a offensive coach that knows how to use his talent. Roman is that guy he just fits his offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Was EJ's name even mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Im not sure trading for a busted wheels, inaccurate, can't read a defense QB is better than keeping our own inaccurate QB and a draft pick Bob Griffen has been awful since he came back injury. AWFUL. He certainly isn't inaccurate that is why he was so highly regarded coming out. When he was healthy he has always been incredibly accurate. There are certainly question marks with RG (health, attitude, work ethic) but the physical tools (again if healthy) are miles ahead of anyone on the Bills roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 it's really not that difficult. It's MANUEL, not MANUAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quester74 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If Washington WANTS to trade him.. why do we even toss in a draft pick to get it done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 He certainly isn't inaccurate that is why he was so highly regarded coming out. When he was healthy he has always been incredibly accurate. There are certainly question marks with RG (health, attitude, work ethic) but the physical tools (again if healthy) are miles ahead of anyone on the Bills roster. And his best season has been better than any other QB's ceiling on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 I can site a few instances where a change a scenery for a QB is a good thing Daryle Lamonica Bills to Raiders, Vinny Testiverde Bucs to Jets, Steve Young Tampa to 49ers, Jim Plunket Pats to Raiders Note he was the number one pick in the draft, Brett Farve ATL to GB , Rich Gannon Chiefs to Raiders, Now you have Fowles and Bradford and Brees had to leave the Chargers to make room for Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Was EJ's name even mentioned? No, which is why the thread title is misleading. From what I read, the article only speculates that RG3 could be traded. The OP speculates it could be for EJ. I wouldn't expect a simple player for player trade involving EJ and RG3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 I said I thought it would involve and mid range draft pick also. No E.J. was not mentioned but what it did say was that it would probably take a QB coming back to the Skins to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I can site a few instances where a change a scenery for a QB is a good thing Daryle Lamonica Bills to Raiders, Vinny Testiverde Bucs to Jets, Steve Young Tampa to 49ers, Jim Plunket Pats to Raiders Note he was the number one pick in the draft, Brett Farve ATL to GB , Rich Gannon Chiefs to Raiders, Now you have Fowles and Bradford and Brees had to leave the Chargers to make room for Rivers. Ask yourself this did any of those players suffer an injury which took away a key element of their game? RG3 has not been the same since the playoff game against Seattle. He has looked timid and honestly very much like EJ. If you want to swap EJ for RG3, ok, i do not see any harm with that. But throwing in a pick is not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I said I thought it would involve and mid range draft pick also. No E.J. was not mentioned but what it did say was that it would probably take a QB coming back to the Skins to make it happen. It's a misleading title. What makes you think it would be EJ besides the fact that he plays QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I doubt it would happen, but if given the opportunity, you pull the trigger without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 If you have to throw in a Mid range pick to get it done why not, its a chance to tip the scales of this teams future. I do know one thing this guy fits Romans offense to a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I said I thought it would involve and mid range draft pick also. No E.J. was not mentioned but what it did say was that it would probably take a QB coming back to the Skins to make it happen. It took quite a bit of reading to realize it was completely your speculation beyond espn saying they might like a qb in exchange if they might trade rg3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes I was speculating that the QB would be E.J. its no secret that Gruden wants him gone and that RG3 will become a free agent and he will leave. He will not sit behind Colt McCoy and this in it's self is a problem. Not to mention that Gruden's offense is not designed for the type of QB that RG3 is. So he will get moved or Gruden will get fired they can not co-exsit. it does not take a rocket scientist to see that this will come to a head and that will probably happen at the NFL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Misleading thread title is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulmac Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Being a huge Bills fan while living here in the DC area,I am praying this is just off season speculation and has no basis in fact.RG3 is an egomaniacal instagramming showboat who has consistently out his needs and desires before the Skins..From his All in Game 1 marketing campaign to his family being the only family members allowed in the team facilities and team plane..he just isn't a team player.. His stats,excluding Hus rookie year suck and his teammates have gone on record to say he is out of control.. Give me an improving EJ with only 14 games under his belt to an overrated over hyped player who cares not a stitch about winning.other than his post game quotes from the losing teams locker room. Go Bills Go EJ!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 At the very least, change the thread title. Or ... Do the right thing and delete it, altogether. This is junk; sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 bullcrap thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 If you don't like the thread please don't comment. Its a fact that Gruden does not want RG3 as his QB and that there has been many stories in the off season he wants him gone. So where there is soke there is fire. Sort of Like the Rams saying that Bradford will not be traded and denying all reports. So now we have all sorts of report's stating that Gruden wants RG3 gone and there is no denying of the reports by the skins or Gruden. What do you think is going to happen. Then you have reporters on ESPN leaking hints that it would take a QB coming back in a trade to get it done. So why not speculate on a possible trade, its done on this forum all the time. Now all of a sudden because you don't like RG3 that I should pull the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Injury waiting to happen. RG3 is just not built for the rigors of the NFL. Too frail. How does one separate his ankle just by running? Pass. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If you don't like the thread please don't comment. Its a fact that Gruden does not want RG3 as his QB and that there has been many stories in the off season he wants him gone. So where there is soke there is fire. Sort of Like the Rams saying that Bradford will not be traded and denying all reports. So now we have all sorts of report's stating that Gruden wants RG3 gone and there is no denying of the reports by the skins or Gruden. What do you think is going to happen. Then you have reporters on ESPN leaking hints that it would take a QB coming back in a trade to get it done. So why not speculate on a possible trade, its done on this forum all the time. Now all of a sudden because you don't like RG3 that I should pull the post. Speculating is fine. Your thread title implies that ESPN stated EJ as a possible candidate. And it is a free country so I will comment on your misleading thread if I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 RG3 is washed up. He's more valuable than Tim Tebow by about the cost of two footballs - NFL official footballs mind you. But that's about it. He can run, can't throw, can't read a Defense, so what makes you think he's perfectly qualified to be an NFL QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Just so you know I changed the title of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Anyone who says they wouldn't trade EJ Manuel and a mid round pick for Robert Griffin III needs to get their head examined. The only reason anyone on here even defends Manuel is because they speak of this magical untapped upside/raw talent that we have yet to see. With Griffin, not only is that upside WAY higher but we've already seen it. It doesn't matter though, it's not like Washington would ever make that trade anyway. Edited March 22, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 finally some one with commen sense thanks Metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Anyone who says they wouldn't trade EJ Manuel and a mid round pick for Robert Griffin III needs to get their head examined. The only reason anyone on here even defends Manuel is because they speak of this magical untapped upside/raw talent that we have yet to see. With Griffin, not only is that upside WAY higher but we've already seen it. It doesn't matter though, it's not like Washington would ever make that trade anyway. Agree with you. There is not argument that RG3 has shown a ton more abilities. You have to wonder if he has had enough humble pie yet to turn his career back around. But i would trade EJ for RG in a heartbeat. I don't see it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Let's get back on topic, would you trade EJ for RG3 and a 4th or 5th round Draft choice in this years NFL Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 finally some one with commen sense thanks Metzelaars_lives You can usually count on me for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 A primadonna who is more concerned with his image, commercials, can't handle criticism, and isn't willing to put the work in to becoming a good QB in this league? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Shouldn't have to trade a pick... If anything the Redskins should give us RGIII and a pick. Edited March 22, 2015 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJallDAY Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 ej and rg3 both have similar problems... difference is by all accounts ej is a gym rat and always has his head in the playbook, at least he is trying. rg3 is said to be lazy and doesnt study up. passs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 it's really not that difficult. It's MANUEL, not MANUAL 1) who cares? 2) see #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 How about this for a scenario: Mariota drops to #5. Washington trades pick to Eagles for a boatload of picks and Sam Bradford. Washington trades RGIII to Bills for EJ Manuel as insurance in case Bradford gets and a conditional 2016 pick. I definitely could see something like this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 1) who cares? 2) see #1 Actually I've pointed out the same thing...that's something a lazy national reporter should make not someone who actually follows the team, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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