QCity Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 1m1 minute ago Full terms: Eagles acquire Sam Bradford and 5th round draft pick in 15 for Nick Foles, 4th round pick in 15 and 2nd round pick in 2016. Wow that's terrible. I guess there is a clause that they get the 2016 pick back if he doesn't start X amount of games. But still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Chip is going all-in on guys with multiple ACLs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yikes. Chip gave up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 i doubt he ever plays a down for Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Stupid move by Chip. If he's trying to get mariota, trading players and picks wont really help. MAYBE Bradford and a first can be traded for the #7. In which case this is a good move. Otherwise, he's not really accomplishing much by doing these lateral trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Chip the GM is going to kill Chip the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Stupid move by Chip. If he's trying to get mariota, trading players and picks wont really help. MAYBE Bradford and a first can be traded for the #7. In which case this is a good move. Otherwise, he's not really accomplishing much by doing these lateral tradeswell he never really liked Foles so its not totally unexpected he moved him. If he cant swing a deal for mariotta he'd rather end up with Bradford than foles Edited March 10, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Chip the GM is going to kill Chip the coach. philly fan going to kill both of them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bradford+2016 2nd+2015 1st +2016 1st to Titans for #2 overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bradford+2016 2nd+2015 1st +2016 1st to Titans for #2 overall? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I think Bradford is trade bait for them to move up for Mariotta. All of their moves up to this point are in preparation for thatAbsolutely. Bradford headed to the Jests.Chip the GM is going to kill Chip the coach.Wouldn't be the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Chip the GM is going to kill Chip the coach. That's what it looks like so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't understand what is happening right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 What makes this trade especially strange to me is that Foles is younger and has far better career passing statistics than Bradford, yet Philly is giving up the extra picks. Doesn't seem to make too much sense for the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'd forgotten that same system in college. Also Chips OC was Bradford's OC when he was ROY, right? Looks as though Chip decided he couldn't trade up to get Mariotta so trading for Bradford is sloppy seconds. I said he had something in mind to do with all that cap space. Just Bradford will be $13 million this year, unless they plan to re-negotiate. This folks. Do some deep thinking here. Teams drafting 1-2 both need quarterback. Why would they even consider trading out of the spot for Bradford, who's been hurt two years in a row and prone to injury? Bradford is Chip Kelly's consolation prize to what could have been a move. Chip's OC WAS Bradford's OC. You are correct Hopeful, and you saw a lot by looking. Old expression, but completely plays itself out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Bradford is Mr Glass. Won't last a season. Philly is going to kill Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 thoughts? Well, St Louis press was totally sandbagged by this one. Took hours for them to comment. The general view in St Louis seems to be that Foles is an upgrade. We'll see. Essentially to get Foles, the Eagles traded down from the 4th to 5th round and gave up a 2nd next year, with the possibility of it ameliorating to a 3rd round trade-down if Bradford doesn't play. I kind of feel like that's a lot for a guy who has missed the last 25 regular-season games. The question is, does Kelly really want Bradford as a player, or does he have some fiendish plan to package him up as part of a Mariotta trade-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 IMO this is the beginning of the end of Kelly in Philly. He's going to get roasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 IMO this is the beginning of the end of Kelly in Philly. He's going to get roasted. IMO I think it will work out. If Bradford stays healthy he's a better QB to run Kelly's system, and he's also better trade bait to snag Mariotta, his dream QB. The risk of course is Bradford staying healthy, it's a big risk ... but if he doesn't they still have a chance to finish above .500 with Sanchez due to improvements on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As Bradford is on the last year of his contract, I don't see how he could be of much use in a trade up for a top QB prospect. Seems an awful lot to give up for a guy who will be a FA next year. Kelly the GM hasn't impressed me thus far with his personel moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 IMO I think it will work out. If Bradford stays healthy he's a better QB to run Kelly's system, and he's also better trade bait to snag Mariotta, his dream QB. The risk of course is Bradford staying healthy, it's a big risk ... but if he doesn't they still have a chance to finish above .500 with Sanchez due to improvements on defense I really don't see how Bradford is better trade bait. Or how he's a better QB to run the system. Or how their "chance to finish above .500" isn't higher with Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I really don't see how Bradford is better trade bait. Or how he's a better QB to run the system. Or how their "chance to finish above .500" isn't higher with Foles. 1. bradford generated a lot of buzz when rumors started he might be available, foles was rumored to be trade bait too but didnt generate nearly the buzz. 2. Bradford is more suited to spread offense. 3. didnt say chances werent greater to finish above 500 with foles Edited March 11, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 maybe philly took bradford and the picks to load up to trade him to buffalo and get more picks so trhey can trade up i the draft for maroitta??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think Bradford is trade bait for them to move up for Mariotta. All of their moves up to this point are in preparation for that It's an interesting question. They get Bradford and give up a 2nd round pick (but next year), which could presumably have been packaged. But...the trade has Philly getting a compensatory 3rd from the Rams if Bradford misses the 2015 season and a compensatory 4th if Bradford doesn't play half the snaps for the Eagles. How would that work in a trade-up situation where Bradford is part of the deal? Would it just be forfeit? Those picks make me think that Kelly wants to keep Bradford and play him. Plus giving up next year's 2nd for Bradford won't help a trade-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If Chip makes all these wild trades and cuts work sounds like he runs them pretty hard in practice , not fun for vets doesn't look like Mariota is his target now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't think there were this many trades in the last 10 years combined. Things have certainly changed in the NFL. It's a lot more fun that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't see it. Bradford can throw well enough when he's healthy, but the injury and salary cap concerns are problematic. It would be a questionable trade if it was pure player for play. Trading AWAY a 2nd rounder AND Foles is mystifying to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 @Jeff_McLane: Very in-depth. RT @MikeTanier: I watched every 1 of Sam Bradford's passes, last time he passed. From 2014: http://t.co/iZNYjSyOuj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just saw Chip Kelly press conference...he's getting grilled in Philly, and he's defending Bradford move, and says "I was offered a 1st round pick for Bradford this morning..." (clear vocal emphasis on I) Excuse me? Is this his personal team? ANY other coach or manager would say "we" were offered a 1st round pick. Nobody else seemed to pick up on this, but holy ego, batman! He may know football, but it's still a team sport, and there's no way this ends well in Philly.....they've had much better years than Buffalo of late, but I'm feeling for my Philly friends and family now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Just saw Chip Kelly press conference...he's getting grilled in Philly, and he's defending Bradford move, and says "I was offered a 1st round pick for Bradford this morning..." (clear vocal emphasis on I) Excuse me? Is this his personal team? ANY other coach or manager would say "we" were offered a 1st round pick. Nobody else seemed to pick up on this, but holy ego, batman! He may know football, but it's still a team sport, and there's no way this ends well in Philly.....they've had much better years than Buffalo of late, but I'm feeling for my Philly friends and family now. i watched the press conf as well and other than looking full-on like Winnie the Pooh, he reminds me of Marrone. Condescending know-it-all. Edited March 12, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Is it possible that Bradford comes to the Bills on draft day? Is it possible that this was all planned out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 i watched the press conf as well and other than looking full-on like Winnie the Pooh, he reminds me of Marrone. Condescending know-it-all.Except that Kelly has actually won far more games than he has lost in both college and the NFL. We will see how these moves work out, but he is entitled to some benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Except that Kelly has actually won far more games than he has lost in both college and the NFL. We will see how these moves work out, but he is entitled to some benefit of the doubt.i was referring to his press conference demeanor reminded me of Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kelly was that way at Oregon, too. He did not make many friends in the media (or in the community). He just won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If Chip makes all these wild trades and cuts work sounds like he runs them pretty hard in practice , not fun for vets doesn't look like Mariota is his target now that is F you believe pre draft smoke and mirrors talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 @BuffRumblings: Report: #Bills were in on Bradford talks but didn't have ammo for a deal http://t.co/iyiSGU6gFg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 @BuffRumblings: Report: #Bills were in on Bradford talks but didn't have ammo for a deal http://t.co/iyiSGU6gFg Oh oh, queue the Watkins bash brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 @BuffRumblings: Report: #Bills were in on Bradford talks but didn't have ammo for a deal http://t.co/iyiSGU6gFg But they could have had the next Manning in EJ? What does he mean we didn't have a QB to send in return? St Louis wanted Foles more than EJ or Tuel? Are they crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) @BuffRumblings: Report: #Bills were in on Bradford talks but didn't have ammo for a deal http://t.co/iyiSGU6gFgI was kind of glad when I saw this because it made me feel less crazy. For a year now I have had a feeling that Bradford would be the QB this year. It just made sense. My thought was that he could be had for the same price that Alex Smith went for. That didn't turn out to be true. With that being said, I wonder what our offer was? My guess is that we offered a 2 and a 5 or something like that. Edited March 25, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 With that being said, I wonder what our offer was? My guess is that we offered a 2 and a 5 or something like that. That's probably the offer, but looks like the deal killer was the QB swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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