Bob in Mich Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) The legitimate debate ended here a long time ago. Actually it ended with the thread title. Know anyone with a disease? Read this That is the title. It is not pot cures everything or that pot cures all disease, as some of you morons continue to claim. It says, if you know anyone with a disease, read this. Why? Because the knowledge may help you or someone you know, dipshit! Because the endocannabinoid system is involved in a great many bodily processes. It is an intercellular communications network that was not discovered until relatively recently. As stated in one of my first posts, cannabinoids were not researched for the past 75 years and so may be involved in some of the more confounding diseases afflicting us. If I could expand the title I would add .... Know anyone with a Disease? Read this (unless you are too ignorant to understand new information) Edited August 5, 2017 by Bob in Mich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 How about Some Potential Uses For Cannabis? Sorry your title is an epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 How about Some Potential Uses For Cannabis? Sorry your title is an epic fail. Put that in a search engine and the list should be linked. 🍻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Put that in a search engine and the list should be linked. No put it in the title of a thread on a message board if you want to be have a serious debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 If this is how you debate..... Wow. Next time read it w/o an attitude. You'll feel better or you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 If this is how you debate..... Wow. Next time read it w/o an attitude. You'll feel better or you should. No, not debating. I don't debate with people who start threads like this. I make fun of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Puff the magic disease curing dragon lived by the endocannibinoid sea. And frolicked in the bull{#%^ smoke from the bong of young Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 A new study claims marijuana is tied to a threefold risk of dying from high blood pressure — but there’s a catch.Isn’t there always? A new study suggests that anyone who smokes marijuana faces a threefold risk of dying from high blood pressure than people who have never used the drug.Those findings sound alarming, but it’s important to keep in mind that, like any study, this one has limitations, including that it defines marijuana “users” as anyone who’s ever tried the drug and that it doesn’t differentiate among strains of a highly unregulated product.However, the study highlights some key areas for future study — including how using cannabis might affect the heart. Criminalization made thorough studies of marijuana’s health effects almost impossible, and a study like this one amalgamating one-time users with habitual users probably doesn’t have much utility, either.This needs to change, now that there’s greater legal tolerance for the drug, so that individuals and governments can better understand what we’re getting into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 A new study claims marijuana is tied to a threefold risk of dying from high blood pressure — but there’s a catch. Isn’t there always? Criminalization made thorough studies of marijuana’s health effects almost impossible, and a study like this one amalgamating one-time users with habitual users probably doesn’t have much utility, either. This needs to change, now that there’s greater legal tolerance for the drug, so that individuals and governments can better understand what we’re getting into. Ah, pot...the cause of and solution to heart disease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 so..... these people are so drug-saturated that heroin and morphine aren't even viable options for hospital and medical procedures? and we drink 50g of sugar into 6 drinks a day and eat sugar-breakdown foods into the taxing on our systems... will be interesting to see how it plays out the next 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 so..... these people are so drug-saturated that heroin and morphine aren't even viable options for hospital and medical procedures? and we drink 50g of sugar into 6 drinks a day and eat sugar-breakdown foods into the taxing on our systems... will be interesting to see how it plays out the next 20 years. More like 300g. That's how much I have in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Can pot cure this? http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/health/marijuana-intoxication-children-france-study/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 The obits for the druggies I went to school with are piling up as we hit our early 50s. Last week's would smoke up with his parents at the dinner table, starting when he was 11 years old. Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Is there nothing magical marijuana cant do? https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/cannabis-legalization-boosts-property-values-study-says?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=B2C%20NEWSLETTER%202017-09-27 And FTA: The study did not seek to identify the reasons that property near cannabis retailers gained value faster than comparative samples. Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Cannabis is not at the root of today's opiate crisis. It is a horrible shame that so many are dying from drug use, but not all illicit drugs should be grouped into the one bucket. In fact, doing so has contributed to the problem. Users don't have the fear of opiates that they should, partly due to the fact that marijuana wasn't as bad as advertised by such programs as DARE. Counter-intuitively, the illegality of a drug does not speak to it's danger. Cannabis may help current opiate users decrease or even eliminate their dependence. Also, cannabis concentrates could certainly be used as an additional weapon against pain. Wouldn't it be wiser to start a patient on a safer, less addictive option before resorting to opiates, given so many are having problems kicking the opiates after their pain has subsided? I found these articles interesting: https://www.leafly.com/news/health/6-takeaways-from-dr-ethan-russos-cannabis-an-unconventional-solution-to-the-opioid-crisis https://www.leafly.com/news/health/how-cannabis-can-combat-the-opioid-epidemic-an-interview-with-philippe-lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Cannabis is not at the root of today's opiate crisis. It is a horrible shame that so many are dying from drug use, but not all illicit drugs should be grouped into the one bucket. In fact, doing so has contributed to the problem. Users don't have the fear of opiates that they should, partly due to the fact that marijuana wasn't as bad as advertised by such programs as DARE. Counter-intuitively, the illegality of a drug does not speak to it's danger. Cannabis may help current opiate users decrease or even eliminate their dependence. Also, cannabis concentrates could certainly be used as an additional weapon against pain. Wouldn't it be wiser to start a patient on a safer, less addictive option before resorting to opiates, given so many are having problems kicking the opiates after their pain has subsided? I found these articles interesting: https://www.leafly.com/news/health/6-takeaways-from-dr-ethan-russos-cannabis-an-unconventional-solution-to-the-opioid-crisis https://www.leafly.com/news/health/how-cannabis-can-combat-the-opioid-epidemic-an-interview-with-philippe-lucas Marijuana is the worst, all things considered. It normalizes the expectation of getting high with every use. Nothing else in the low-end of freely available substances does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Marijuana is the worst, all things considered. It normalizes the expectation of getting high with every use. Nothing else in the low-end of freely available substances does this. If you are saying cannabis is worse for an individual user than opiates, you are terribly misinformed about the relative dangers of opiates versus cannabis. Also, are you implying there is no high with opiate use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Marijuana is the worst, all things considered. It normalizes the expectation of getting high with every use. Nothing else in the low-end of freely available substances does this. I'm high right now and I have no idea what you are trying to say. I am joking about being high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I'm high right now and I have no idea what you are trying to say. I am joking about being high. Paranoia set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Of the sect of heavy potsmokers I went to school with in the 70s and 80s, 12 (the vast majority) croaked before their 50th birthday, just added 2 more last month to that special list in my thoughts. I'm sure a few were bumped off due to the inherent hazards of thinking you could rip off people in the trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 So...Tom Petty's dead. Cardiac arrest. Looks like there's at least one disease pot can't cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just heard about Petty. Do penguins smoke pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Bummer. I always liked this song: Eddie waited till he finished high school He went to Hollywood, got a tattoo He met a girl out there with a tattoo too The future was wide open They moved into a place they both could afford He found a nightclub he could work at the door She had a guitar and she taught him some chords The sky was the limit Into the great wide open Under them skies of blue Out in the great wide open A rebel without a clue The papers said Ed always played from the heart He got an agent and a roadie named Bart They made a record and it went in the charts The sky was the limit His leather jacket had chains that would jingle They both met movie stars, partied and mingled Their A&R man said "I don't hear a single" The future was wide open Into the great wide open Under them skies of blue Out in the great wide open A rebel without a clue Into the great wide open Under them skies of blue Into the great wide open A rebel without a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 A rebel without a clue I didn't know he wrote a song about you. You have my deepest sympathies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I didn't know he wrote a song about you. You have my deepest sympathies. Yeah, there are times (rare) when I am sorry that I don't respond to Gator That was set right up on the Tee. (though he might have quoted "Fooled Again" as his favorite) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 http://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/356702-trumps-opioid-agency-fails-to-cite-marijuanas-benefits-despite-mounting Despite the growing body of scientific evidence showing that cannabis access is associated with reductions in opioid abuse and mortality, President Trump’s Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis remains mum on the subject. Their silence is unacceptable. It is time for the administration to stop placing political ideology above the health and safety of the American public. Just last week, data published online in The American Journal of Public Health reported a 6.5 percent decrease in monthly opioid deaths in Colorado following the enactment of retail cannabis sales. “This reduction represents a reversal of the upward trend in opioid-related deaths in Colorado,” authors concluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 http://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/356702-trumps-opioid-agency-fails-to-cite-marijuanas-benefits-despite-mounting In other words, smoke more pot because it is good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Any update on Tom Petty's status? Pot cure him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Any update on Tom Petty's status? Pot cure him yet? He and Francisco Franco are still dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It's too bad that rock stars never smoked pot. A lot of them died young, and it all could have been prevented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Any update on Tom Petty's status? Pot cure him yet? He is feeling no pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 He is feeling no pain. You never know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Such a crazy news day! Fifty-one percent of Republicans now support marijuana legalization, a nine-point increase from last year, according to a new Gallup poll released Wednesday. Overall support is also at an all-time high, with 64 percent of Americans now in favor of making marijuana legal. A majority of Democrats have favored legalization since 2009, while a majority of Americans have consistently shown support since 2013. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-downplays-cambridge-analytica-role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 So...Tom Petty's dead. Cardiac arrest. Looks like there's at least one disease pot can't cure. I was hoping your tired shtick would die with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I was hoping your tired shtick would die with him. Oh, go eat some chips or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I was hoping your tired shtick would die with him. Prayer for patience for the kids forced to listen to Dad play his TP greatest hits CD and yell "HE WAS THE GREATEST EVER!!!" for hours until this wears out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Such a crazy news day! Fifty-one percent of Republicans now support marijuana legalization, a nine-point increase from last year, according to a new Gallup poll released Wednesday. Overall support is also at an all-time high, with 64 percent of Americans now in favor of making marijuana legal. A majority of Democrats have favored legalization since 2009, while a majority of Americans have consistently shown support since 2013. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-downplays-cambridge-analytica-role Why is it crazy? If Republicans were really for free markets, smaller government, individual freedom, and get the government out of my bedroom, they'd be for it. Those that follow them and actually believe it are for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I was hoping your tired shtick would die with him. [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) ... Edited October 27, 2017 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Why is it crazy? If Republicans were really for free markets, smaller government, individual freedom, and get the government out of my bedroom, they'd be for it. Those that follow them and actually believe it are for it. Well, what we have learned, or re-learned, is that the only thing at all the base case about is their bigotry. Keeping this illegal allows them to punish people so it will stay illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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