Deranged Rhino Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't have any problem legalizing any drugs either, but at least be honest about it's effects. The propaganda about weed (from both sides) is ridiculous. The difference is, those propagandizing the issue from the anti-weed crowd are motivated purely by profit. Either from the ill conceived war on drugs (prisons for profit, racial profiling and sentencing, et al) or protecting their own market share of the narcotics industry (alcohol manufacturers, tobacco, and big pharma who profit from getting everyone hooked on their pills). This side is entirely disingenuous, and happens to be the "mainstream" view -- though that's quickly changing. Those propagandizing it from the pro-weed side, aside from the dispensaries themselves, aren't trying to line their pockets by deceiving the public. They may be trying to convince folks it can cure anything and everything without much evidence to back that up -- but that's an entirely different kind of hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The difference is, those propagandizing the issue from the anti-weed crowd are motivated purely by profit. Either from the ill conceived war on drugs (prisons for profit, racial profiling and sentencing, et al) or protecting their own market share of the narcotics industry (alcohol manufacturers, tobacco, and big pharma who profit from getting everyone hooked on their pills). This side is entirely disingenuous, and happens to be the "mainstream" view -- though that's quickly changing. Those propagandizing it from the pro-weed side, aside from the dispensaries themselves, aren't trying to line their pockets by deceiving the public. They may be trying to convince folks it can cure anything and everything without much evidence to back that up -- but that's an entirely different kind of hustle. So you're going to completely ignore the fact that the pro-weed side is trying to convince people that it's harmless? That people don't get addicted and it just causes the munchies... never-mind the studies showing that it's basically alcohol and cigarettes in one. It isn't all about making a profit. Which isn't even a bad thing. Every time I see someone add the word "big" to something, it invalidates their point. I immediately see tin-foil hats... why don't we ever see: big weed big environment big union big feminism big organic food big hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 So you're going to completely ignore the fact that the pro-weed side is trying to convince people that it's harmless? That people don't get addicted and it just causes the munchies... never-mind the studies showing that it's basically alcohol and cigarettes in one. The underlined is beyond false. Every study has shown weed is not as damaging to your body as alcohol or cigarettes, let alone BOTH. You're a trip. Misinformed, but a trip. It isn't all about making a profit. Yes it is, on the anti-weed side it 100% is. It's about people wanting to protect the profit centers the end of prohibition would threaten. Every time I see someone add the word "big" to something, it invalidates their point. I immediately see tin-foil hats... That's a you problem, and you should look into that because you're greatly misinformed on a lot of topics. why don't we ever see: big weed big environment big union big feminism big organic food big hollywood :lol: This list is hilarious. Inaccurate per your point, but hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The difference is, those propagandizing the issue from the anti-weed crowd are motivated purely by profit. Either from the ill conceived war on drugs (prisons for profit, racial profiling and sentencing, et al) or protecting their own market share of the narcotics industry (alcohol manufacturers, tobacco, and big pharma who profit from getting everyone hooked on their pills). This side is entirely disingenuous, and happens to be the "mainstream" view -- though that's quickly changing. Those propagandizing it from the pro-weed side, aside from the dispensaries themselves, aren't trying to line their pockets by deceiving the public. They may be trying to convince folks it can cure anything and everything without much evidence to back that up -- but that's an entirely different kind of hustle. I make zero profit from weed or any of its competitors or prisons or anything. I don't like weed because it can turn brilliant people into unmitigated morons who care only about weed. I've seen it many times. I also think you are off about the pro-weed people. They are loud because they are trying to shout down their own guilty conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I make zero profit from weed or any of its competitors or prisons or anything. I don't like weed because it can turn brilliant people into unmitigated morons who care only about weed. I've seen it many times. I also think you are off about the pro-weed people. They are loud because they are trying to shout down their own guilty conscience. No, they're loud because they have to yell over the Tom Petty music, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 At least Rhino admitted that he's ignoring the negative health affects of weed. Of course it's harmless, the pot heads say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't have any problem legalizing any drugs either, but at least be honest about it's effects. The propaganda about weed (from both sides) is ridiculous. I am being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 No, they're loud because they have to yell over the Tom Petty music, remember? It is their guilty conscience. It is guilty about both the pot and the music and the cabin down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 At least Rhino admitted that he's ignoring the negative health affects of weed. Of course it's harmless, the pot heads say so. That's not at all what I said. Show me the study that shows weed is worse than cigarettes and alcohol combined. ...I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 That's not at all what I said. Show me the study that shows weed is worse than cigarettes and alcohol combined. ...I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 That's not at all what I said. Show me the study that shows weed is worse than cigarettes and alcohol combined. ...I'll wait. I never said "combined", or "worse,". You added those clarifiers. Weed impairs reaction time and perception similar to alcohol. Smoking weed affects the respiratory system similar to cigarettes (although cancer has not yet been linked, not that anyone can study it). -you're still breathing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I never said "combined", or "worse,". You added those clarifiers. Weed impairs reaction time and perception similar to alcohol. Smoking weed affects the respiratory system similar to cigarettes (although cancer has not yet been linked, not that anyone can study it). -you're still breathing smoke. Yeah...but if you get "a disease" from the smoke, the smoke cures it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Yeah...but if you get "a disease" from the smoke, the smoke cures it. Whoa you just blew my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) I am being honest. It was a general statement. I cited your post to include my addendum. Edited April 18, 2016 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I never said "combined", or "worse,". You added those clarifiers. Correct, but they were in the spirit of your words. That people don't get addicted and it just causes the munchies... never-mind the studies showing that it's basically alcohol and cigarettes in one. So, let's see that study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Weed impairs reaction time and perception similar to alcohol. Smoking weed affects the respiratory system similar to cigarettes (although cancer has not yet been linked, not that anyone can study it). -you're still breathing smoke. Most people nowadays don't smoke it, they eat it or vape it. ...Though, as I say that, I'm smoking it but I'm doing so knowing that smoke is bad for my lungs. But considering the amount of pain I'm in due to a chronic condition I suffer from (pun intended), I'll take the trade off in pain relief this brings. I should be using a vaporizer though, no question about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The difference is, those propagandizing the issue from the anti-weed crowd are motivated purely by profit. Either from the ill conceived war on drugs (prisons for profit, racial profiling and sentencing, et al) or protecting their own market share of the narcotics industry (alcohol manufacturers, tobacco, and big pharma who profit from getting everyone hooked on their pills). This side is entirely disingenuous, and happens to be the "mainstream" view -- though that's quickly changing. Those propagandizing it from the pro-weed side, aside from the dispensaries themselves, aren't trying to line their pockets by deceiving the public. They may be trying to convince folks it can cure anything and everything without much evidence to back that up -- but that's an entirely different kind of hustle. Probably the only thing that pisses me off is the pro weed people saying it's harmless. There are no free lunches in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Correct, but they were in the spirit of your words. So, let's see that study. You also want me to cite studies proving the sky is blue? http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/marijuana-use-and-its-effects http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjkids_faq13.htm Here's a far lefty's simple video explanation on the effects of weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) You also want me to cite studies proving the sky is blue? http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/marijuana-use-and-its-effects http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjkids_faq13.htm Here's a far lefty's simple video explanation on the effects of weed. And none of those links show what you stated to be true. Thanks for proving my point. Now go light up a jay and relax. Probably the only thing that pisses me off is the pro weed people saying it's harmless. There are no free lunches in nature. Agree. I'm not arguing it's harmless, just that it's proven to do far less damage to your body than both booze and tobacco, doubly so when it's not smoked. Not to mention how much better it is than opiates which are highly addictive (unlike weed) and are the number one cause of addiction in this country today. Edited April 18, 2016 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Agree. I'm not arguing it's harmless, just that it's proven to do far less damage to your body than both booze and tobacco, doubly so when it's not smoked. Not to mention how much better it is than opiates which are highly addictive (unlike weed) and are the number one cause of addiction in this country today. This last statement proves everything I have been saying. You're delusional. Can't even read a simple webMD list of health problems. Keep smoking that weed pot head. I'm sure it'll cure whatevah you think ails yah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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