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2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yeah it's mental.

 

It was a white guy. Clearly mental. Gotta focus on those "mental issues" because it's a white dude.

 

Can't call it terrorism. It was a white dude.

 

But this happens and it's not a white dude... oh how the narrative shifts

 

It's all just so goddamn frustrating

 

Its frustrating that YOU bring race into this when not a God@mn thing I said mentioned race whatever.

 

Mental illness doesn’t care about race, even if you do.

 

So, like I say to anyone who wants to play the USELESS race card ................

 

You can shove your racism straight up your candy azz. Sideways 

 

PS............

 

Look at the FBI’s database about who commits the most violent crimes in this country and then get back to me about how “because it’s ONLY a white guy” when someone mentions it’s mental health. Stats don’t lie.

 

I call you out on your total bullshyt, Mack.

 

This nutjob shooter IS the one at fault. Nothing or no one else is. And obviously this crazy person has MENTAL ISSUES. Case closed.

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23 minutes ago, ALF said:

9 dead, 16 injured in a shooting in Dayton, Ohio

 

(CNN)Nine people are dead after shooting incident in Dayton, Ohio, according to police. Dayton Police say the suspect in the incident also is dead. Sixteen additional people were injured in the incident

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-ohio-active-shooter/index.html

 

Oh man, this could be a terror plot for multiple cities in this country. (I have a firm grasp of the obvious, I know).

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24 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Oh man, this could be a terror plot for multiple cities in this country. (I have a firm grasp of the obvious, I know).

Terror plot by who?

 

White Nationalists

 

Oh... Can't wait for the ferocious PPP horrible human beings on the right's response:

 

"The leftists are gaslighting the situation."

 

Who the hell knows what went on in Dayton & what it was about.  Yet, the one in Gilroy & El Paso point to young white males fired up about immigration.  Fired up about losing power and status in a changing society.

 

All... I can say is yikes!  As the people in power fan the flames!

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13 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Terror plot by who?

 

White Nationalists

 

Oh... Can't wait for the ferocious PPP horrible human beings on the right's response:

 

"The leftists are gaslighting the situation."

 

Who the hell knows what went on in Dayton & what it was about.  Yet, the one in Gilroy & El Paso point to young white males fired up about immigration.  Fired up about losing power and status in a changing society.

 

All... I can say is yikes!  As the people in power fan the flames!

 

Sickos come in ALL colors.

 

Gilroy and El Paso are white dudes who are sick human beings and wanted to inflict pain on people because they are mentally ill cowards of the first order.

 

Their ideology is ON THEM. No one else is to blame but these shooters themselves.

 

The only thing I really can say is stay safe, no matter where you are cause this shyt could strike any of us next.

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19 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Sickos come in ALL colors.

 

Gilroy and El Paso are white dudes who are sick human beings and wanted to inflict pain on people because they are mentally ill cowards of the first order.

 

Their ideology is ON THEM. No one else is to blame but these shooters themselves.

 

The only thing I really can say is stay safe, no matter where you are cause this shyt could strike any of us next.

Unfortunately, one ideology/side has the brunt of the firepower.  Expect more of their shitshow as leadership fans the flames and demagoguery.

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....well that didn't take long...................

Amy Klobuchar slams Trump in wake of El Paso massacre, faces backlash for politicizing tragedy

 

By Brie Stimson | Fox News

 

A Democrat seeking the party's 2020 presidential nomination faced sharp criticism on social media Saturday after linking that day's massacre in El Paso, Texas, to President Trump's rhetoric.

 

Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., one of nearly two-dozen Democrats hoping to block Trump's bid for a second term in the White House, made her remarks at a labor forum event in Las Vegas.

“The individuals who do the shootings are responsible," Klobuchar said, referring to mass shootings such as the one in El Paso that left 20 dead and 26 injured, "but I do think Trump's rhetoric has fueled more hate in this country.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/amy-klobuchar-accuses-trump-of-fueling-hate-in-wake-of-el-paso-shooting-criticized-for-politicizing-tragedy

 

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Eyewitness at El Paso Walmart says she saw 3 or 4 shooters.

 

Adriana and her two children were inside near the cash register when the shooting started. She says she saw 3 or 4 men in black as shooters.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/i_p_a_1/status/1157729513008259074?s=19

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10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I've never heard that espoused from Trump.  I've never heard him call for mass shootings, support mass shootings, nor have I ever heard him "scapegoat" immigrants.  Quite the opposite, in fact.  I think you know that. 

Calling them rapists and murderers, that's scapegoating them. Speaking of an invasion, calling them all drug dealers and making them all out as criminals and terrorists, yes, he is spreading hate speech. 

 

Trump is helping create this situation. Same with the Pittsburg synagogue shooting which the shooter said was about the caravan Trump was running around screaming his head off about. 

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4 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Texas is one of the most 2A friendly states, ALOT of people packing. I am honestly shocked that nobody stopped this person before it gotnout of hand. 

 

Was this mall a "gun free zone"?

 

No, nobody was able to react in a useful way, reality is hard for untrained people 

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Calling them rapists and murderers, that's scapegoating them. Speaking of an invasion, calling them all drug dealers and making them all out as criminals and terrorists, yes, he is spreading hate speech. 

 

Trump is helping create this situation. Same with the Pittsburg synagogue shooting which the shooter said was about the caravan Trump was running around screaming his head off about. 

Lies, Liberius. 

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And just like that, the left supported racial profiling.

 

 

 

 

 

No politician, no matter their side of the aisle, is ever responsible for the homicidal or other criminal actions of any individual.

That blame game is moronic.

 

 

 

 

 

A POTUS enforcing federal immigration laws, and accurately pointing out domestic crime rates, is not a catalyst for some lunatic to commit a massacre.

 

If that’s what you believe you need help.

 

 

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Five simple questions that blow apart the official fake news narrative about the El Paso Wal-Mart shooting

 

 

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-03-five-questions-blow-apart-the-official-fake-news-narrative-el-paso-walmart-shooting.html

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#1) If there’s only one shooter, why did so many eyewitnesses report multiple shooters at the scene?

#2) Why did the local police arrest and hold three suspects in custody, as was widely reported by the media before the story was changed to a “lone shooter?”

 

Walmart has a lot of surveillance cameras to answer those 2 questions.

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2 minutes ago, ALF said:

#1) If there’s only one shooter, why did so many eyewitnesses report multiple shooters at the scene?

#2) Why did the local police arrest and hold three suspects in custody, as was widely reported by the media before the story was changed to a “lone shooter?”

 

Walmart has a lot of surveillance cameras to answer those 2 questions.

 

Both good points though question one may come down to the unreliability of eye witnesses in a crisis. Though number two would be a good way to check on that. 

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Reminder: in 2016, an unprecedented thing happened. The Senate GOP agreed to link a terrorism watch list to a gun sales ban.

 

So why don't we have a gun sales ban linked to the a terrorism watch list? Every single Senate Democrat voted against the bill.

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06/20/after-orlando-massacre-cornyn-gun-measure-fails-s/ …

 

 

 

 

 
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I wrote about it at the time, particularly how unprecedented it was for the GOP to agree to even a partial gun sales ban. But rather than agree to the incremental gun control measures Republicans proposed, the Democrats chose to pass no gun control legislation at all.

6:59 AM - 4 Aug 2019

 

 
 
 
Lest there be any doubt, Democrats aren't serious about gun control. They' just like the talking point.
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6 minutes ago, Pilsner said:

Thank you B-Man. I’m not as tech savvy as some.



@Pilsner to link you open the comment box. At the top you see the image  (with the arrow).
Click that
A box will pop open  that you fill in. If you just drop the link, it will look like what @B-Man linked above. If you fill in words it will look like this.
(you can also write words, then go back and highlight them and click that link-symbol to insert your link and make it clickable).

I hope that helps!
 

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7 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

Like an 8chan ***** in this basement sub forum.

 

 

7eWpkx-c_bigger.jpgBen ShapiroVerified account @benshapiro

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1. Everyone of decency is devastated and heartbroken over mass shootings, and wants something to change.

 

2. Everyone of decency is enraged by white supremacism.

 

3. Disagreements about policy do not invalidate (1) and (2).

 

4. If you ignore (3), you are not acting decently.

 

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I sure hope this is fake news here, because if it isn't Trump's probably got a small army of maniacal murders out there waiting to drench this nation in blood

 

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ON SATURDAY MORNING, a gunman at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, shot and killed at least 20 people before surrendering to the police. By all accounts, Patrick Crusius, the 21-year-old alleged shooter, is a fan of President Donald Trump and his policies. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, “a Twitter account bearing the suspect’s name contains liked tweets that include a ‘BuildTheWall’ hashtag” and “a photo using guns to spell out ‘Trump.’”

Incredibly, the nation woke up to more grim news on Sunday, with reports that a man suited up in body armor and bearing a rifle with high-capacity magazines had carried out a rampage in Dayton, Ohio, killing at least nine people and injuring 26.

Little is known yet about the Dayton shooter, but a four-page manifesto authorities believe was written by Crusius and posted shortly before the El Paso attack is full of the kind of hateful rhetoric and ideas that have flourished under Trump.

The manifesto declares the imminent attack “a response to the Hispanic invasion,” accuses Democrats of “pandering to the Hispanic voting bloc,” rails against “traitors,” and condemns “race mixing” and “interracial unions.” “Yet another reason to send them back,” it says.

 

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/04/el-paso-dayton-mass-shootings-donald-trump/

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...normal Chicago day...skee ball and target practice...........

At least 7 people shot in Chicago park; 1 killed, 3 others wounded in separate shooting

 

By Nicole Darrah | Fox News 
Published 1 hour ago

At least seven people were wounded by gunfire early Sunday in Chicago after someone opened fire near a playground on the city's west side.

 

The shooting happened around 1:20 a.m. in Douglas Park, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. Authorities said someone shot their weapon from inside a black Chevrolet Camaro on the street.

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14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...normal Chicago day...skee ball and target practice...........

At least 7 people shot in Chicago park; 1 killed, 3 others wounded in separate shooting

 

By Nicole Darrah | Fox News 
Published 1 hour ago

At least seven people were wounded by gunfire early Sunday in Chicago after someone opened fire near a playground on the city's west side.

 

The shooting happened around 1:20 a.m. in Douglas Park, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. Authorities said someone shot their weapon from inside a black Chevrolet Camaro on the street.

I wonder why this isn't headline news? Can anyone explain why?

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

4.) How does one man kill 20 people and wound another 30 people with a single magazine that only holds 30 rounds? The surveillance photo shows no chest rig, no battle belt and no spare magazines.

 

VERY good question...

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

I sure hope this is fake news here, because if it isn't Trump's probably got a small army of maniacal murders out there waiting to drench this nation in blood

 

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/04/el-paso-dayton-mass-shootings-donald-trump/

 

 

Um.  Likely because this was a "lone wolf."  You know like the media told us about San Bernadino.  Fort Hood.  The Boston Bombers.  

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15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Um.  Likely because this was a "lone wolf."  You know like the media told us about San Bernadino.  Fort Hood.  The Boston Bombers.  

So was Tim McVeigh! This guy was inspired just like the Pittsburgh synagogue terrorist was. 

 

So so you don't see this as terrorism? Why is that? 

28 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Was he a Hillary supporter? 

56 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Oh, well, the SPLC has spoken. It must be true!

You don't think these were terrorist incidents? Silence speaks volumes! 

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