YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Does he actually still have a foot injury, or just taking the Bruce Smith approach to camp/pre-season? Not that he has earned it. I do think he will be much better this year, but with all the EJ madness it seems his absence has gotten lost in the shuffle. Wasn't even participating in camp yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think he's taking the veteran special treatment approach and just not playing much. Most veterans don't need 4 weeks of training camp to prepare. I think he will be just fine. Same thing with Stevie. Always has injuries but plays every game and usually pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think he's taking the veteran special treatment approach and just not playing much. Most veterans don't need 4 weeks of training camp to prepare. I think he will be just fine. Same thing with Stevie. Always has injuries but plays every game and usually pretty well. I hope you're right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Keen an eye on Mario Williams. Â He's an outstanding football player with a brain in his head and a lot of common sense. Â And because he has a brain in his head and a lot of common sense he knows whether the Bills are good team or not. Â Last year he mailed it in IMHO because he knew the Bills sucked. Â If Williams plays well this year it's because he believes in this team and knows it will succeed. Â If he mails it in again like he did last year that tells us what he thinks about the Bills this year and what we can expect from this team as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Keen an eye on Mario Williams. Â He's an outstanding football player with a brain in his head and a lot of common sense. Â And because he has a brain in his head and a lot of common sense he knows whether the Bills are good team or not. Â Last year he mailed it in IMHO because he knew the Bills sucked. Â If Williams plays well this year it's because he believes in this team and knows it will succeed. Â If he mails it in again like he did last year that tells us what he thinks about the Bills this year and what we can expect from this team as fans. Interesting take.... I did notice on the second play of the first preseason game Mario losing his $#%# on someone for blowing their assignment and allowing a 7 yard run. Struck me as odd because I don't remember seeing a whole lot of emotion from Mario, especially in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Keen an eye on Mario Williams. Â He's an outstanding football player with a brain in his head and a lot of common sense. Â And because he has a brain in his head and a lot of common sense he knows whether the Bills are good team or not. Â Last year he mailed it in IMHO because he knew the Bills sucked. Â If Williams plays well this year it's because he believes in this team and knows it will succeed. Â If he mails it in again like he did last year that tells us what he thinks about the Bills this year and what we can expect from this team as fans. Â If he mails it in, Pettine will have a chance to show what he's made of. If a coach can't stop players mailing it in, he can't hold the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He's been nicked up a bit, so the coaching staff is playing it safe with the $100M investment...nothing else to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Our staff hasn't been quick to push people back into practice/games that have injuries, especially our vets. I'd like to see him out there, but it might not be his choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) No reason to push guys with a history of production. For what? With all of the injuries in the NFL this preseason there's no reason for it. I love the approach that Marrone & Co are taking leading up to the season. Edited August 19, 2013 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 My opinion: He just doesn't want to practice. As long as he earns his paycheck in Weeks 1-20, I couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 My opinion: He just doesn't want to practice. As long as he earns his paycheck in Weeks 1-20, I couldn't care less. Fair point. The injuries have been ridiculous this season. I know all the "experts" are saying it is no worse than in past years, but it certainly seems like it. Maybe it has just been played up more or seems like it is a lot of starters, but I hold my breath every time our team takes the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Lol don't worry about Mario. He will probably be the best defensive player on the team... Just like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think he's taking the veteran special treatment approach and just not playing much. Most veterans don't need 4 weeks of training camp to prepare. I think he will be just fine. Same thing with Stevie. Always has injuries but plays every game and usually pretty well. Yup. Frankly, I'd rather watch rookies play in the preseason anyway. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 you don't need to bring your big horse out of the stable for a meaningless race.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 If he mails it in, Pettine will have a chance to show what he's made of. If a coach can't stop players mailing it in, he can't hold the team. Â That is not up to the coach. Â GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Bruce Smith approach to camp/pre-season Training camp isn't about finding out who can play...it's about finding out who can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Mario is fine. No need in risking him to injury when preseason games should be getting the basics down and evaluating bubble players. He will be fine for the regular season and looks to have a productive one with Pettine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Keen an eye on Mario Williams. Â He's an outstanding football player with a brain in his head and a lot of common sense. Â And because he has a brain in his head and a lot of common sense he knows whether the Bills are good team or not. Â Last year he mailed it in IMHO because he knew the Bills sucked. Â If Williams plays well this year it's because he believes in this team and knows it will succeed. Â If he mails it in again like he did last year that tells us what he thinks about the Bills this year and what we can expect from this team as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He's been nicked up a bit, so the coaching staff is playing it safe with the $100M investment...nothing else to see here. Â This in a nutshell. You simply don't push a guy yard that is this much of your defense. It makes ZERO sense unless you're just an idiot fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Your "mailed it in" post is ridiculous. Go watch the games again. Mario got better as the season went on, especially when we were out of playoff contention. Â He got 10.5 sacks (only 8 guys in the league notched 12 or more) and he was batting balls and playing the run well too. His STRENGTH was the last 5 games. Exactly the opposite of "mailing it in". Â I saw a better team player, more hustle and a strong season finish. He will have a pro bowl year this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Marrone is managing his playing and practice time, as he is with other veterans and sure starters, like SJ. There is no point in getting him hurt in pre-season for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 My opinion: He just doesn't want to practice. As long as he earns his paycheck in Weeks 1-20, I couldn't care less. Practicitis? Â I agree. See you Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Marrone is being extra careful with players. Look at kiko, he was cleared by the trainers and his position coaches and marrone still held him out of practice and the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Â 10.5 sacks last year on a terrible vanilla defense. Guy produced. You should probably sheck your bust terminology. Aaron Maybin = Bust. not Mario Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 preseason Mario's proven. Tenneseeboy you claim Mario's a bust so far? Sure clueless Wannstedt wasn't the issue? Â friendly bet over 14 sacks? Mario's a beast and with any help it's on like a mofo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Â He had 10.5 sacks in his first year on a defense with a chicken sh*t scheme while dealing with an injury that required a procedure halfway through the season. Far too hasty to call him a "bust" IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Â #1 -- it's impossible to "earn" that paycheck, no matter what he does. #2 -- 10.5 sacks out of Wanny's "take it as you see it" defense is nothing to sneeze at. #3 -- did you see Mario trying to put his linemates into correct position during the 1st series vs. Indy last week? Â Yes, Mario creates drama -- just as superstars always have done. But the guy more often that not "brings it" and I foresee a big year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Your "mailed it in" post is ridiculous. Go watch the games again. Mario got better as the season went on, especially when we were out of playoff contention. Â He got 10.5 sacks (only 8 guys in the league notched 12 or more) and he was batting balls and playing the run well too. His STRENGTH was the last 5 games. Exactly the opposite of "mailing it in". Â I saw a better team player, more hustle and a strong season finish. He will have a pro bowl year this season. Â in addition, he is highly motivated to get to the later years of his contract. last season he played hurt prior to his wrist surgery and his play dramatically improved immediately after the surgery. I fully expect him to have an even greater impact in this years attacking defensive scheme. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Â Training camp isn't about finding out who can play...it's about finding out who can't Good insight. I also think that once the players the coaches know are going to make the roster have shown they've "got it" as far as the new scheme goes, & have shown they're ready to go, then there's little sense in keeping turn on the field. As you say, it's the guys you don't really know who have to be the focus. Edited August 19, 2013 by yungmack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Keen an eye on Mario Williams. Â He's an outstanding football player with a brain in his head and a lot of common sense. Â And because he has a brain in his head and a lot of common sense he knows whether the Bills are good team or not. Â Last year he mailed it in IMHO because he knew the Bills sucked. Â If Williams plays well this year it's because he believes in this team and knows it will succeed. Â If he mails it in again like he did last year that tells us what he thinks about the Bills this year and what we can expect from this team as fans. Â And his deal is essentially a 2 year deal so we can part ways with his ass in the offseason if he mails it in again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Go learn what Bust means in football lingo. Don't come back until you do. Edited August 19, 2013 by Meatloaf Sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 He has been a bust so far. I'm hoping he has the wherewithal to earn his paycheck this year and become a team leader. Clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 How much fun would this board have been to read if it existed in the late 80s/early 90s? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 you don't need to bring your big horse out of the stable for a meaningless race.... Â is this a reference for being a wing-man for your friend?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I understand keeping him off the field if he is a proven performer, has grasped the defense and to avoid injury. However, why is Stephon Gilmore out there in preseason? Or CJ Spiller? IMO, these two guys are just as critical, if not moreso, and yet they are rolling them out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I understand keeping him off the field if he is a proven performer, has grasped the defense and to avoid injury. However, why is Stephon Gilmore out there in preseason? Or CJ Spiller? IMO, these two guys are just as critical, if not moreso, and yet they are rolling them out there. Mostly attitude. When Bruce sat out practice, Kelly , Thurman, Reed, Bennett....all practiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I understand keeping him off the field if he is a proven performer, has grasped the defense and to avoid injury. However, why is Stephon Gilmore out there in preseason? Or CJ Spiller? IMO, these two guys are just as critical, if not moreso, and yet they are rolling them out there. I think Mario's role is far more one-dimensional than the likes of Gilmore and/or CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCOHEN13 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Marrone rested a rookie in Alonso as "precautionary" even when everyone else said he was ready to go. The Bills core D is pretty much set, especially up front. Mixing in others with the 1's here and there and seeing what u got in some of those guys when playing with the 1's is so valuable. Perfect example is Hughes... As well all know, he was a beast in camp, but to get to see him dominate as he did vs Vikes validates him even more. Pettine and Marrone know what they got in Mario, and few others, just being careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Does he actually still have a foot injury, or just taking the Bruce Smith approach to camp/pre-season? Not that he has earned it. I do think he will be much better this year, but with all the EJ madness it seems his absence has gotten lost in the shuffle. Wasn't even participating in camp yesterday? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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