JPS Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) This is interesting. I remember people here saying that there's no way they'd want Big Ben on the Bills in the immediate wake of his sexual escapades amidst rumors that the Rooneys were fed up and were thinking of releasing him. I think one really has to remove the emotion from the equation. This is the way I see it (and I don't know what happened to him in college so my mind isn't set): 1) Second rounder, 44th overall, talented player. 2) Rookie contract, will be cheap. 3) Bills are VERY thin at wide receiver. So why not put in a waiver claim, bring him in for an interview and work him out? If you don't like any aspect of the visit, cut his ass. If you and your group of decision makers is convinced that this guy has sincerely received his wake-up call, then bring him to camp and let him work to redeem himself. Is it necessary for the entire world to punish him for his misdeeds in Detroit? Yeah, it's kinda is necessary. For the kid. Let him sit. Find Jesus, Tony Dungy, Chris Carter or something. He needs a shift in his point of view and it's not going to come with underserved 2nd (3rd, 4th) chances. Edited February 5, 2013 by JPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I have zero problem bringing in an !@#$ or problem child as long as he's brought in at minimum wage and then has to earn a job. Considering Titus' behavior, any team that does differently is incompetent and deserves exactly what they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 thw Bills have enough to worry about. Keep the trouble away from OBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I have zero problem bringing in an !@#$ or problem child as long as he's brought in at minimum wage and then has to earn a job. Considering Titus' behavior, any team that does differently is incompetent and deserves exactly what they get. Earlier in the post it said he gets paid whatever his deal says. He's a waiver pick up, not a free agent. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6533/titus-young So according to Rotoworld he gets $750K in 2013 and $850K (round numbers) in 2014. It also says they think no one will touch him in waivers, waiting for him to clear and stay out of trouble in the off season. PTR Edited February 5, 2013 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I can't believe even 1 person on this board suggested picking this POS up. Amazing. Yes sir, gotta agree with ya. Blows my mind sometimes how people think, or don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 In the department of leaving no stone unturned, I do not see why OBD would not at least take a look at the kid. See if they can find out all the facts, talk to him etc. If he has any interest at all in playing in the NFL, you would think he would be on his best behavior. We all know that some other team -- whether it is the Bills or whomever -- is going to take a chance on him. If he becomes a problem for that team and is sent packing, his career is over. Even if he is too dumb/arrogant to understand that, I am sure his agent will make that fact very clear to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 No reason not to bring in anyone and everyone possible, since the coaching staff will have no problem effectively evaluating 600 guys at the same time. I can't wait to see Jamarcus Russell throwing to Titus Young in camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 In the department of leaving no stone unturned, I do not see why OBD would not at least take a look at the kid. See if they can find out all the facts, talk to him etc. If he has any interest at all in playing in the NFL, you would think he would be on his best behavior. We all know that some other team -- whether it is the Bills or whomever -- is going to take a chance on him. If he becomes a problem for that team and is sent packing, his career is over. Even if he is too dumb/arrogant to understand that, I am sure his agent will make that fact very clear to him. He still isn't on his best behavior. He's been a mess as recently as the last couple weeks. He declared himself better than Calvin Johnson during the playoffs and you think he will be happy with teams "kicking the tires?" He's a diva and has been for a long time - it's shown no sign of stopping, and in fact may be escalating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah I made an idiotic statement on here yesterday that we maybe should take a look at him, after looking into the way he conducts himself as a professional and as a person I take all that **** back. He's a hot mess to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 This is interesting. I remember people here saying that there's no way they'd want Big Ben on the Bills in the immediate wake of his sexual escapades amidst rumors that the Rooneys were fed up and were thinking of releasing him. I think one really has to remove the emotion from the equation. This is the way I see it (and I don't know what happened to him in college so my mind isn't set): 1) Second rounder, 44th overall, talented player. 2) Rookie contract, will be cheap. 3) Bills are VERY thin at wide receiver. So why not put in a waiver claim, bring him in for an interview and work him out? If you don't like any aspect of the visit, cut his ass. If you and your group of decision makers is convinced that this guy has sincerely received his wake-up call, then bring him to camp and let him work to redeem himself. Is it necessary for the entire world to punish him for his misdeeds in Detroit? 1. Big Ben is a completely different situation. The aversion to him had nothing to do with on-field performance. People didn't want him because they like to cheer for their team, and even if the players really are !@#$s, it's nice to think they're not. It kind of ruins the fun when your team's icon is a complete scum bag. But with this Young kid you get the best of both worlds. He's a problem both off and on the field - and he's a problem in the locker room. He hit the problem child trifecta. 2. It has nothing to do with punishing him. It has to do with not creating another problem for your team. It's not like he made a mistake or just had some maturity issues - that you can deal with. Rather, he's had a long and consistent history of causing problems everywhere he's been. It's who he is, and a tiger doesn't change its stripes. Sure, if he doesn't work out you can cut him, but why waste valuable time and resources on someone who's almost certain to make you regret dealing with him in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 1. Big Ben is a completely different situation. The aversion to him had nothing to do with on-field performance. People didn't want him because they like to cheer for their team, and even if the players really are !@#$s, it's nice to think they're not. It kind of ruins the fun when your team's icon is a complete scum bag. But with this Young kid you get the best of both worlds. He's a problem both off and on the field - and he's a problem in the locker room. He hit the problem child trifecta. 2. It has nothing to do with punishing him. It has to do with not creating another problem for your team. It's not like he made a mistake or just had some maturity issues - that you can deal with. Rather, he's had a long and consistent history of causing problems everywhere he's been. It's who he is, and a tiger doesn't change its stripes. Sure, if he doesn't work out you can cut him, but why waste valuable time and resources on someone who's almost certain to make you regret dealing with him in the first place? This is the part the "what's the harm" crowd misses with every ridiculous suggestion to bring in some bust or problem child. A coaching staff only has so much bandwidth for player evaluation. You aren't going to uncover the next Russell Wilson in camp if he's sitting on the bench because you brought in Tebow, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell and six other losers 'just to kick the tires'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 This is the part the "what's the harm" crowd misses with every ridiculous suggestion to bring in some bust or problem child. A coaching staff only has so much bandwidth for player evaluation. You aren't going to uncover the next Russell Wilson in camp if he's sitting on the bench because you brought in Tebow, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell and six other losers 'just to kick the tires'. that, and titus young has a history of assaulting teammates, which is never good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 This is the part the "what's the harm" crowd misses with every ridiculous suggestion to bring in some bust or problem child. A coaching staff only has so much bandwidth for player evaluation. You aren't going to uncover the next Russell Wilson in camp if he's sitting on the bench because you brought in Tebow, Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell and six other losers 'just to kick the tires'. Wait...So are you saying we shouldn't draft 6 QBs this year? B/c I heard that was the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Earlier in the post it said he gets paid whatever his deal says. He's a waiver pick up, not a free agent. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6533/titus-young So according to Rotoworld he gets $750K in 2013 and $850K (round numbers) in 2014. It also says they think no one will touch him in waivers, waiting for him to clear and stay out of trouble in the off season. PTR Waivers are only good for 48 or 72 hours. If hr clears waivers he is a free agent and his contract is null and void. So, once he clears waiver, pay him minimum wage and give him a $25 gift card to Mighty Taco as a signing bonus. Make him earn every penny of that minimum wage contract. How this is likely going to play out is that some team is gonna pick him up. Then at some point before the season is half over he is gonna piss the HC off and get kicked to the curb. Then at some point he's going to have an encounter with the wrong cop at the wrong time in the wrong place and get his azz taised and the snot and feces beaten out of him, and likely spend some time in the slammer. If he's still stupid after that, he can't be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Waivers are only good for 48 or 72 hours. If hr clears waivers he is a free agent and his contract is null and void. So, once he clears waiver, pay him minimum wage and give him a $25 gift card to Mighty Taco as a signing bonus. Make him earn every penny of that minimum wage contract. How this is likely going to play out is that some team is gonna pick him up. Then at some point before the season is half over he is gonna piss the HC off and get kicked to the curb. Then at some point he's going to have an encounter with the wrong cop at the wrong time in the wrong place and get his azz taised and the snot and feces beaten out of him, and likely spend some time in the slammer. If he's still stupid after that, he can't be fixed. waivers this time of year stretch like a week or two i believe. itll be mid february at the earliest from what i believe i heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The Bills have a first year head coach. the last thing he needs is a player that could cause him problems in the locker room. he SHOULD go to a team like N.E. N.E. has a strong HC, good locker room and a QB that would not put up with a second of his antics. That said i doubt NE picks him up. If they do it would come after BB and Brady have both sat down with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Leaving no stone unturned does not mean doing things you know are pointless. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Over inflated ego, thinking the is a future Hall of Famer and all the other rot is the sign of an immature individual. NFL is populated by men with diva attitudes. He committed the great football "sin" by openly admitting to lining up in the wrong place on purpose. He has a history of being in trouble with his own team mates. Take a flyer if you have veterans who can influence him by leading by example. Right now, I am not sure the Bills are that team. He has a lot of talent and can be productive. It all depends if he can control his emotions and mature mentally. This is a young man in need of a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I've heard people say he'll be a Jet or a Pat*, but I have my money on him becoming a Bengal. They take chances in players like him all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 No way Marrone comes near this guy. He's the biggest head-case I've ever seen. Being a pain to your team and fans by your antics is one thing, intentionally lining up in the wrong place, etc. and hurting the team on the field is inexcusable. Can't take a player like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 hes a grade A idiot...............living the dream of being in the NFL and he had to mess it up by "keeping it real".................he's a dumb hoodrat who deserves to be broke and out of the league by his own undoing IMO. Titus hasn't done anything and wants the world to treat him like he's Calvin Johnson (who go figure never has any issues and doesn't ask for accolades) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 1. Big Ben is a completely different situation. The aversion to him had nothing to do with on-field performance. People didn't want him because they like to cheer for their team, and even if the players really are !@#$s, it's nice to think they're not. It kind of ruins the fun when your team's icon is a complete scum bag. But with this Young kid you get the best of both worlds. He's a problem both off and on the field - and he's a problem in the locker room. He hit the problem child trifecta. 2. It has nothing to do with punishing him. It has to do with not creating another problem for your team. It's not like he made a mistake or just had some maturity issues - that you can deal with. Rather, he's had a long and consistent history of causing problems everywhere he's been. It's who he is, and a tiger doesn't change its stripes. Sure, if he doesn't work out you can cut him, but why waste valuable time and resources on someone who's almost certain to make you regret dealing with him in the first place? I agree. This isn't a one-time problem, or a guy like TO whose antics don't really hurt the team (and who most teammates liked). He's good, but I'd rather bring in an old vet like TO over this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProbablyWrong Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Picked up by the Rams, so any possibility here is gone now anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Picked up by the Rams, so any possibility here is gone now anyways. Good choice. Worth the risk for them as they definitely need receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Good choice. Worth the risk for them as they definitely need receivers. so do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 so do we. They need them more plus they know who their QB is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I've heard people say he'll be a Jet or a Pat*, but I have my money on him becoming a Bengal. They take chances in players like him all the time. I was wrong. He's a Ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I was wrong. He's a Ram. pac man, haynesworth, britt, jenkins, heck gregg williams.... young seems like he could be a jeff fisher guy. hell, the lions were built by jeff fisher guys too. no one ever mentions fisher as a guy that takes head cases for some reason, even though hes had some of the worst in the nfl pass through his locker rooms. Edited February 5, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplo848 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 He didn't want to play for Dean from Supernatural I'm glad I'm not the only one to see this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 They need them more plus they know who their QB is. point goes to Joe !: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 pac man, haynesworth, britt, jenkins, heck gregg williams.... young seems like he could be a jeff fisher guy. hell, the lions were built by jeff fisher guys too. no one ever mentions fisher as a guy that takes head cases for some reason, even though hes had some of the worst in the nfl pass through his locker rooms. Yep. Got a good rookie season out of Janoris Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Yep. Got a good rookie season out of Janoris Jenkins. Love the approach, or hate it - its just odd to me that he never gets mentioned in association with the bengals, cowboys, jets, and lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 His talent level is really intriguing. But I just don't want this type of attitude in the locker room and anywhere near Stevie. Stevie is immature enough and does not need any more bad influences around him. Like a T.O.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Who cares if we have choir boys on this team anymore. I'm sick of the nice guy thing. This team needs a few head cases that can help win a SB! Just WIN Baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) They need them more plus they know who their QB is. Er....I know his name of course, and his draft position, but who is the Ram's quarterback, exactly? I mean, in terms of NFL-level talent and capability? Serious question. Edited February 7, 2013 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Er....I know his name of course, and his draft position, but who is the Ram's quarterback, exactly? I mean, in terms of NFL-level talent and capability? Serious question. As a 3rd year guy, he hasn't been that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Bradford beat buffalo..........he unlike #14 has an arm and led a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Rumors emerging that the Rams will cut Titus Young, 10 days after claiming him off waivers: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/15/rams-wont-comment-on-report-titus-young-will-be-cut/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/02/15/rob-parker-reports-titus-young-already-cut/ Parker reporting he's already cut and that he won't play again. Rob Parker isn't totally reliable but being a Detroit guy he might have connections to young. Edited February 15, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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