truth on hold Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Only 5 teams behind us in standings. Of those - Eagles, Lions and Titans - it's just a game. KC and Jags with 2 wins only teams can't catch us. But if we keep losing odds are we will move up on the draft board. 4 other teams with 5 wins (and no I haven't worked out tie breakers and schedules), but the draft picture is brightening. Lose out and 3 to 6 seems to be the range we pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings Edited December 17, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBackupQB Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I do not want to win another game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What corner or running back will Nix draft at #3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 FWIW most draft previews I've seen don't have a single QB listed as a top 10 prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/sort/wins/group/1/order/false The best team the Bills beat was Miami @ 6-8 Completely Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did we beat anyone with a winning record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 What corner or running back will Nix draft at #3? Marcel Dareus II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did we beat anyone with a winning record? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) FWIW most draft previews I've seen don't have a single QB listed as a top 10 prospect. Geno Smith may go #1 overall...In fact it's still likely...After that it's wide open certainly...Too many people are looking at Barkley...And that's not where we should be looking...IMHO, the other QB's that can fly up after the Sr Bowl and Combine based on their potential are Mike Glennon, and Tyler Wilson...I think when it's all said and done 3 QB's will go in the Top 15...I'm just not sure which yet...But I REALLY doubt Barkley is one of them... Edited December 17, 2012 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 We are so bad it's only fair that the Bills should be able to draft someone a year or two after they've played in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 If we get 3 we have a shot at Te'o. Chiefs need to take a QB and jags have Poz and have others needs all over the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albany c2 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Suck for Te'o. Too bad he won't save this team. What are the odds that we start T Jax next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canks Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What about Chad Kelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What corner or running back will Nix draft at #3? Is there a QB worth taking at #3? Maybe T'eo? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 If the Bills pick 3rd, they have to make a balls out effort to get the #1 to get Geno Smith. It's only two spots and shouldn't cost too much. If they CAN'T make that deal, they should trade down, get some extra picks, and make hay that way. This Manti Te'o hype is getting ridiculous. He's good, but he's not 3rd overall good. We could trade down a few spots and still get him. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The falcons got Matt Ryan with the 3rd overall pick, and like many of this year QB prospects, he was not considered to be a top prospect at this stage of the evaluating process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Only 5 teams behind us in standings. Of those - Eagles, Lions and Titans - it's just a game. KC and Jags with 2 wins only teams can't catch us. But if we keep losing odds are we will move up on the draft board. 4 other teams with 5 wins (and no I haven't worked out tie breakers and schedules), but the draft picture is brightening. Lose out and 3 to 6 seems to be the range we pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings I think 4 out of those 5 teams would be interested in a QB the only team who might let us move up for a quality QB is Detroit - on top of that I think there is only one QB who has a good chance to be a quality starter (Geno Smith) and quality starter doesn't mean franchise QB- maybe in the next ten QBs there is a diamond but you'll be guessing which is the diamond and which are the 9 pieces of glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 If the Bills pick 3rd, they have to make a balls out effort to get the #1 to get Geno Smith. It's only two spots and shouldn't cost too much. If they CAN'T make that deal, they should trade down, get some extra picks, and make hay that way. This Manti Te'o hype is getting ridiculous. He's good, but he's not 3rd overall good. We could trade down a few spots and still get him. GO BILLS!!! I agree about Te'o...At least right now I do...If he goes to the Combine and posts a few 4.5's I'll switch quick...But like I've said here before, I think he's way closer to Rey Maualuga than Ray Lewis...Not that the Bills could not use a Rey Maualuga-type...But still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 if we get the #3 pick we take the best QB available... DO NOT fall for the Te'o hype... he is a good leader, but not a top 5 caliber player ________________ Chiefs will make an effort to get Alex Smith, and then go QB in round 2. That team needs more than just at QB. Jags will stick with Henne, and make an effort to get Tebow. They will draft defense. If and IF we get the third pick, we can get Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 if we get the #3 pick we take the best QB available... DO NOT fall for the Te'o hype... he is a good leader, but not a top 5 caliber player ________________ Chiefs will make an effort to get Alex Smith, and then go QB in round 2. That team needs more than just at QB. Jags will stick with Henne, and make an effort to get Tebow. They will draft defense. If and IF we get the third pick, we can get Geno You really see chiefs going for vet starter after the cassell experience ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 if we get the #3 pick we take the best QB available... DO NOT fall for the Te'o hype... he is a good leader, but not a top 5 caliber player ________________ Chiefs will make an effort to get Alex Smith, and then go QB in round 2. That team needs more than just at QB. Jags will stick with Henne, and make an effort to get Tebow. They will draft defense. If and IF we get the third pick, we can get Geno If the Chiefs or Jags pass on Smith they deserve to suck for years to come...I don't see any possibility where The Bills get Smith...And if I was the Jags, or the Chiefs, I would not trade the rights to Draft him for almost anything...Those teams (ESPECIALLY the Jags) need to sell tickets too...Geno Smith is going to bring a heck of a lot more excitement to a Franchise than Alex Smith...Not that I don't like Smith...I just can't see either of those teams passing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jones. LB Georgia. Better pass rusher than Te'O. QB in round 2. Nassib. If he dosen't work out, trade the farm for Jonny Football next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Cain Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Buddy will blow the pick. Too stupid / conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jones. LB Georgia. Better pass rusher than Te'O. QB in round 2. Nassib. If he dosen't work out, trade the farm for Jonny Football next year. I'm a big fan of Te'O, but if the Bills were picking that high, the pick would have to be Jarvis Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 i just hope the bills dont blow it by winning their last two and ending up with a middling pick again when the game is on i find it real hard to root for a loss but im so sick of this crap i may find the strength to do just that these last couple weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What corner or running back will Nix draft at #3? Go get T'eo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Only 5 teams behind us in standings. Of those - Eagles, Lions and Titans - it's just a game. KC and Jags with 2 wins only teams can't catch us. But if we keep losing odds are we will move up on the draft board. 4 other teams with 5 wins (and no I haven't worked out tie breakers and schedules), but the draft picture is brightening. Lose out and 3 to 6 seems to be the range we pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings Buffalo will need help of course...... The second column is the number of wins of opponents which directly correlated to strength of schedule the final column are their wins. week 16 matters most come week 17 the number of wins can only increase by 2 because of divisional play so its driven by the teams noncommon opponents winning or losing. On MNF TEN wins then they stay where they are...if they lose they move to tied for 4th with philadelphia. This is tracking current teams opponents performance...not the teams they have played so far. With opponents you know who they will be playing for strength of schedule. So you cant be reading JAX playing NE next week so their win total will jump up. The only adjustment from week to week will be based on the teams they play and their performance for that week. For example since Buffalo played both tennesee and JEts this season...tomorrows MNF game will add 1 if Tenn wins, will add 2 if Jets win, will add 1.5 if they tie. 1 112 KC 2 2 120 JAX 2 3 104 OAK 4 4 115 PHL 4 5 126 DET 4 6 100 SD 5 7 109 BUF 5 8 112 CLE 5 9 114 TEN 4 10 115 CAR 5 11 125 AZ 5 If I recall correctly... SD-OAK and JAX-TEN close the season playing each other. Edited December 17, 2012 by djp14150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dciraolo Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 With the 3rd pick in the 2013 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select Brian Kelly. Head Coach, Notre Dame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I would say that after hearing Nix, they go WR first, then make some moves for a QB Buddy will blow the pick. Too stupid / conservative. Yup, cause his early picks have been horribleSpiller - Everyones new favorite (after calling him a bust for his first little while) Dareus - the guy everyone was screaming over who they had to draft If the Chiefs or Jags pass on Smith they deserve to suck for years to come...I don't see any possibility where The Bills get Smith...And if I was the Jags, or the Chiefs, I would not trade the rights to Draft him for almost anything...Those teams (ESPECIALLY the Jags) need to sell tickets too...Geno Smith is going to bring a heck of a lot more excitement to a Franchise than Alex Smith...Not that I don't like Smith...I just can't see either of those teams passing... I don't think theres anyone in the Draft that really "Sells tickets" for any of those franchises. Tebow would "sell Tickets" for Jacksonville though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Buffalo will need help of course...... The second column is the number of wins of opponents which directly correlated to strength of schedule the final column are their wins. week 16 matters most come week 17 the number of wins can only increase by 2 because of divisional play so its driven by the teams noncommon opponents winning or losing. On MNF TEN wins then they stay where they are...if they lose they move to tied for 4th with philadelphia. This is tracking current teams opponents performance...not the teams they have played so far. With opponents you know who they will be playing for strength of schedule. So you cant be reading JAX playing NE next week so their win total will jump up. The only adjustment from week to week will be based on the teams they play and their performance for that week. For example since Buffalo played both tennesee and JEts this season...tomorrows MNF game will add 1 if Tenn wins, will add 2 if Jets win, will add 1.5 if they tie. 1 112 KC 2 2 120 JAX 2 3 104 OAK 4 4 115 PHL 4 5 126 DET 4 6 100 SD 5 7 109 BUF 5 8 112 CLE 5 9 114 TEN 4 10 115 CAR 5 11 125 AZ 5 If I recall correctly... SD-OAK and JAX-TEN close the season playing each other. Thanks for the analysis. Good news of 8 teams we could be tied with, our SoS is currently 3rd weakest. best case for us we keep losing, Raiders win out, and Eagles, Lions, Chargers & Titans win at least 1 ... if Im doing it correctly we get most likely #3 in that scenario. Edited December 17, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Its been said many times, it doesn't matter where you draft, it just matter that you draft well where your at. If just drafting ealry made you better, how come it always seems like the same teams are drafting in the top spot every year? How many times have the Lions drafted in the top 5 over the last decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Agreed. It seems like good teams like the Steelers get good picks no matter what round or position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Spiller - Everyones new favorite (after calling him a bust for his first little while) Dareus - the guy everyone was screaming over who they had to draft No offense...But over-generalization much?... Everyone...Everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Its been said many times, it doesn't matter where you draft, it just matter that you draft well where your at. Really? Tell that to the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Only 5 teams behind us in standings. Of those - Eagles, Lions and Titans - it's just a game. KC and Jags with 2 wins only teams can't catch us. But if we keep losing odds are we will move up on the draft board. 4 other teams with 5 wins (and no I haven't worked out tie breakers and schedules), but the draft picture is brightening. Lose out and 3 to 6 seems to be the range we pick. http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings What good would it do to move up the draft board? The clowns at One Bills Drive would screw it up anyway. Seriously, until Ralph Wilson is no longer the owner of this team, the Bills are doomed to mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Really? Tell that to the Colts. Really? Tell that to the Seahawks when they drafted Russel Wilson in the 3rd round. Seahawks have the same record as Colts and the Seahawks did not have to defraud their fans, the draft process, and football in general to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Trade down, pick up some linebackers and wide recievers with 1st and 2nd round picks and then a QB in the third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) FWIW most draft previews I've seen don't have a single QB listed as a top 10 prospect. Was Russell Wilson a top 10 prospect? Kaepernick? Kirk Cousins? Nick Foles? Roethlisburger? Romo? . . . Brady? I dont care. Just keep picking them until we get it right. You cannot ever ever win in this league without at least one. Its not whether a top 10 prospect is there. Its whether the front office can actually figure out who is worth a shot. Think of all the qbs in all the rounds that they've passed on in the past three years, in favor of taking more dbs. Edited December 17, 2012 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 If we get 3 we have a shot at Te'o. Chiefs need to take a QB and jags have Poz and have others needs all over the field. That's the way to go if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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