Stan da Man Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What you smell is the stench of this putrid organization. Mostly the coaching, and QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I hear ya. It's almost like they purposely got smoked in the 2nd half of the Pats game and last week should have been a loss. It's like they begged AZ to win it. Sure gave em enough chances. The Browns game was questionable at how they came back at the end and of course today. I don't think they would ever do it purposely but man, does it ever feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wouldn't you tank the season for the opportunity to pick the first cornerback in the draft next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? Where is the evidence that there is "too much talent" on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No, its not on purpose, just terrible coaching and below avg play by almost the ENTIRE team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 At this point the HC was doing his best to win, he just keeps reverting to his desire to call shotgun passing plays when the chips are down. Gailey gambled his future on a backup QB, and decided a rookie wouldn't get it done. Nix wants to win as his job is on the line also. i think Tom Donahoe was fired for less wins 31-48, after 4 years. Donahoe was better...Levy / Jauron was better. Gailey has his head up his keester because he doesn't know how to tell a proper DC from his butthole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? Handing 100 million dollar contract is the first sign of trying to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I thought we lost a few games at the end of last year on purpose to help our draft position but now I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Didn't see the game...only highlights....did they really call a pass with 3rd and 1 with the lead and 3 minutes to go?!?!?!?! If so, then maybe they are trying to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 In order to pay these huge bonuses Littman & Ralph are betting against the Bills & Fitzpatrick is complicit being the Wall Street Ivy League clown from Harvard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Are you serious with this topic.....don't be an idiot. The team and coaching staff is embarassing enough so please don't make fans out to be both ignorant and ridiculous. We Suck, it is that simple. Other NFL teams have turned the corner in 2-3 years while the Bills have stunk the joint up for over a decade and everyone from the Front Office, coaching staff, and players don't deserve to be associated with the NFL let alone let alone be able to cash a check from the NFL. Stop drinking the damn kool aid and accept you are the fan of a NFL team that would rank as the equivalent of whale **** if you were a marine biologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? Nope, this is not possible, probable, or plausible. Do you really think that the Bills organization from top to bottom is so coordinated, powerful, good at what they do, and in control that they have the power to control or force the outcome of a game (and actually a whole season) in such a way that they continually grasp defest from the jaws of victory time after time. (and also achieve this goal while keeping it all a secret from the watchful eyes of several hundred thousand Bills fans and several million folks betting on NFL games? If the Bills at their highest levels were so good and so in control as to be able to have any chance of plotting to lose games merely to obtain a higher draft pick, it would be far soimpler for them to use this coordinated power and control to just win games. Like many a conspiract theory this one simply assumes that the conspirators have far more competency, control, and power than they have demonsstated in reality. Do you really have the belief and faith in Mr. Ralph, Gailey and the organization to believe they could accomplish the conspiracy theory you are laying out (and keep their nefarious plans a secret to the world? Perhaps you also believe Dr. Evil is in control of the world and plans to make a million dollars from the ornate control required for such a plot to be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? No. I'm sure if they tried loosing on purpose they'd start winning. ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? LOL They're so bad that it makes one conjure up theories like that. I've been going through those mental machinations for years. But the answer is no, they're really just that bad. What I don't get is that it's almost always obvious when they hire these jokers except most fans and media always think that they're good hires because the "experts" in the organization are all smarter than we are. Even here most everyone originally supported the hire of Nix and Gailey and deferred to them. Now all of this. In fact, it was just two months ago that most here were heralding Nix for his work and insisting that a 10-22 coach otherwise was all of a sudden going to propel this team into the playoffs or at least a winning record. Now .500 seems absurdly optimistic. Well next time they try to force feed everyone a fat pudding pop, instead of spouting how the experts and people that get paid [a lot more than we do] to make these decisions know more than we do, how about sending an immediate message to the organization that you're not happy and saying that you're going to boycott the season and most likely the following season too until they become as serious as you are. They obviously don't know WTF they're doing, they obviously don't have a clue when they put the car in Drive and it goes in Reverse. But watch, they'll hire some other head coach to liberally apply turd polish to, ditto for the GM, and it will be wash, rinse, repeat mode right here, on schedule again. Then after the astute fans realize how they've been screwed before it happens once again try to express as much, they'll be treated like lesser fans for doing so. Two seasons of an empty stadium will do the trick. Never going to happen though. There are enough fools out there that insist that financial support for losing is the best way to prove how much of a fan one is. Edited October 22, 2012 by TaskersGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Injuries, poor drafting (Maybin when Clay Matthews was avail), allowing our good players to walk away free agents, they should have extended the contract of Jarius Byrd before this season. Should have kept Wade Phillips, Perry Fewell or brought in Jim Hazlett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I wish they would lose out to draft higher but if they were doing that they would be losing games something like 30-10. Not close losses like yesterday and the close win like last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan da Man Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) My questions were somewhat rhetorical and tongue-in-cheek. It's just hard to believe the level of ineptitude and idiocy that has plagued this team for over a decade. In my heart I'm saying they can't be THAT bad, can they?.....but my head knows they really suck sweaty donkey balls from top to bottom. Sad, sad realization that has finally overcome what was once hope and optimism. I'm a defeated fan with no hope left. Edited October 23, 2012 by Stan da Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 well, we need to do whatever it takes to garner the QB of the future. And more important it must be done this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 they arent that smart. they are trying to get to 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? YES! Most amazing and insightful post ever. Suck for Luck and RG3 one year late while going .500 to get the 14th pick in the draft. :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Another solid draft... Picking 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? They are a year Late, guys like Luck come around ounce in a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 LOL They're so bad that it makes one conjure up theories like that. I've been going through those mental machinations for years. But the answer is no, they're really just that bad. What I don't get is that it's almost always obvious when they hire these jokers except most fans and media always think that they're good hires because the "experts" in the organization are all smarter than we are. Even here most everyone originally supported the hire of Nix and Gailey and deferred to them. Now all of this. In fact, it was just two months ago that most here were heralding Nix for his work and insisting that a 10-22 coach otherwise was all of a sudden going to propel this team into the playoffs or at least a winning record. Now .500 seems absurdly optimistic. Well next time they try to force feed everyone a fat pudding pop, instead of spouting how the experts and people that get paid [a lot more than we do] to make these decisions know more than we do, how about sending an immediate message to the organization that you're not happy and saying that you're going to boycott the season and most likely the following season too until they become as serious as you are. They obviously don't know WTF they're doing, they obviously don't have a clue when they put the car in Drive and it goes in Reverse. But watch, they'll hire some other head coach to liberally apply turd polish to, ditto for the GM, and it will be wash, rinse, repeat mode right here, on schedule again. Then after the astute fans realize how they've been screwed before it happens once again try to express as much, they'll be treated like lesser fans for doing so. Two seasons of an empty stadium will do the trick. Never going to happen though. There are enough fools out there that insist that financial support for losing is the best way to prove how much of a fan one is. You have been remarkably consistent (and correct) in your assessment of the team. Props to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 OP's comments imply that there is a plan somewhere; we all know that ain't the case after watching the demise of the franchise for lo these many years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? No. They aren't competent enough to launch that kind of a coodinated effot with any degree of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Nah. They are just not interested in doing what it takes to be competitive and have the ready excuse of "small market" to blame for their incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 well, we need to do whatever it takes to garner the QB of the future. And more important it must be done this year. If you think this franchise is horrible right now (I think most here do) why would you want these guys picking your QB of the future...they would be the ones to pick Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning. The reality is, our owner has a lot less time to own this team..only when the franchise swithches hands to another owner (in Buffalo or somewhere else) would I care about getting our franchise QB, right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Is it possible that this organization is intentionally losing to improve our draft position for the next draft? It's almost like they are trying to do it without making it look obvious. There is too much talent on this team that was seen last year and was improved on paper in the offseason. Something just doesn't seem right. I smell funny business. Is this possible, probable or plausible? Nothing personal, but what a ridiculous suggestion. I have never been a fan of Nix or Gailey or their hirings, but Nix isn't out of the field-although he couldn't do much worse. What you are seeing is what you get when you hire coaches that nobody else wants, when you have ownership that can't get a good coach to come here, can't get top players to come here unless you so severely overpay them it turns out to be a joke. Kinda like putting a blind person in a scavenging hunt and asking if he is trying not to win the hunt on purpose. Plus, they spent the money on Williams, now they have an excuse for sucking for the next 5 years when someone says they don't spend money. Even if they were throwing it, they would just screw up the draft pick anyway, so what would be accomplished? Edited October 23, 2012 by BuffBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That's an easy answer. Unfortunately they really are this bad. They are trying their best to win, they just aren't any good at it. Gailey's hard headed sticking with Fitz and Wannstedt will cost him his job. I think Gailey is safe, but Chan will be gone after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If you think this franchise is horrible right now (I think most here do) why would you want these guys picking your QB of the future...they would be the ones to pick Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning. The reality is, our owner has a lot less time to own this team..only when the franchise swithches hands to another owner (in Buffalo or somewhere else) would I care about getting our franchise QB, right now. I think we put it off two years and decided the defense was the priority.The play book is limited now . And we might as well put the horse before the cart and get the QB first. Then give him some top draft receivers to heave to. I would not go so far as to say Ryan Leaf over Peyton, but.... it's not pretty when the wheels are coming off.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 well, we need to do whatever it takes to garner the QCB of the future. And more important it must be done this year. Fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 They are a year Late, guys like Luck come around ounce in a lifetime. The last once in a lifetime QB is still in the league! That's an easy answer. Unfortunately they really are this bad. They are trying their best to win, they just aren't any good at it. Gailey's hard headed sticking with Fitz and Wannstedt will cost him his job. I think Gailey is safe, but Chan will be gone after this season. Is he going to change his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) The last once in a lifetime QB is still in the league! Is he going to change his name? Sorry, meant to say Nix is safe but Gailey will be gone. Edited October 24, 2012 by xsoldier54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 No. I'm sure if they tried loosing on purpose they'd start winning. ha. this is waht happened when year 1 when they tanked to get Cam Newton. started 0-8 and then won 3 lousy games and got screwed when Luck stayed in school could not even tank the season properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jone's Toupee Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Insanity. These are professionals (talent not withstanding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wouldn't you tank the season for the opportunity to pick the first cornerback in the draft next year? We just took a CB...We are due a runningback this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 jobs and big money are on the line......absolutely NO WAY players are losing on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Sorry, meant to say Nix is safe but Gailey will be gone. And I thought you were alluding to the evil twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 And I thought you were alluding to the evil twin. I thought that was funny as well. Bye Bye Chan. Nix you have one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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