C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I love how people try to knock everything. It's the freaking NFL. He was dominant and it's a great sign, no matter who he's playing against. And never underestimate how important confidence is. Hopefully this is a step to big things. But man, give the guy credit for a good game since a lot of you love to knock him for a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 There's no kool-aid drinking here, I'm just pointing out a solid game and I said I know its against a bad OL. Let me ask you this, how many of you thought he was going to manhandle that Jet's OL and he didnt? So he was supposed to but he didnt in that game, he was supposed to and was dominant in this game. I think that marks good progress... You have low expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. it does. They didn't run at Mario. They ran at what they thought was a weakness. That weakness compiled six solo tackles. Not bad for a dude fans wanted railroaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) I've been a Bills fan for 20+ years, not quite 30 but quite a long time. I still hold faith and still understand that a W is a W is a W. I'm trying to give props to a player for playing well and they all want to shoot it down. I've said for years, if the Bills ever win a SB, there will be a "The Bills won the SB, BUT..." post on this site. Some people are never happy. To me a W is a W and it's a much happier Monday. Mario did dominate a weaker opponent and he did have a good game. Does he need to do this on a consistent basis, regardless of the opponent? YES! Edited October 15, 2012 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I've said for years, if the Bills ever will a SB, there will be a "The Bills won the SB, BUT..." post on this site. Some people are never happy. To me a W is a W and it's a much happier Monday. Mario did dominate a weaker opponent and he did have a good game. Does he need to do this on a consistent basis, regardless of the opponent? YES! It's funny because it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Mario played very well. I look forward to him turning it up further next week against the Titans at home. Moore was a very, very pleasant surprise. He had great burst around the corner and looked better than Anderson had in pass rushing situations. He looked as though he could be a legit pass rusher. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. I agree, it was his best game as a Bill by a country mile, but they were playing the two tackles who have given up the most sacks in the NFL by a large margin. Edited October 15, 2012 by BuffBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! Umm... Where was he against the Pats and 49ers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! Sorry, we're Bills fans. We only complain. And declare players as busts 5 games into a 6 year contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 he had a good game, he needs to have more. i will be happy if he manages to do this in a divisional game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sorry, we're Bills fans. We only complain. And declare players as busts 5 games into a 6 year contract... Yeah, I'm starting to realize this is just like any other Bills message board. I didn't expect much, but was hoping for a little more postivitiy. That's what almost a decade and a half of futility will do though. I'm seeing the sliver lining but they're seeing all the gloom around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. Man, no matter what the Bills or their players do we always have to hear lines like this. The Bills win and it's, "yeah, but they can't beat good teams." Their players do well and it's, "yeah, but the opponent sucked." I swear some of you just can't give any credit to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yeah, I'm starting to realize this is just like any other Bills message board. I didn't expect much, but was hoping for a little more postivitiy. That's what almost a decade and a half of futility will do though. I'm seeing the sliver lining but they're seeing all the gloom around it. Yep. Im not defending the horrible performances against the Pats and Jets, but I think the offseason had everyone expecting a 19-0 team that dominates in every game. That just isnt going to happen in the NFL. Heck the Pats lost to the Seahawks yesterday, and the Texans got blown out and self destructed in embarrassing fashion. We just need a bit more consistency, and to get the fire back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yep. Im not defending the horrible performances against the Pats and Jets, but I think the offseason had everyone expecting a 19-0 team that dominates in every game. That just isnt going to happen in the NFL. Heck the Pats lost to the Seahawks yesterday, and the Texans got blown out and self destructed in embarrassing fashion. We just need a bit more consistency, and to get the fire back. Agreed. There's so much parity in this league, the "Any Given Sunday" mantra takes on a new meaning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 When he plays bad we come at him like he stole money. When he plays well, well its not his fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 When he plays bad we come at him like he stole money. When he plays well, well its not his fault... I don't quite get what you're saying here. Are you saying we say "its not his fault" he stole the money, or its not his "fault" he had a good game, or am I completely missing the point. Either way, if you're trying to dig at me, I haven't talked about Mario on this board until this thread. My first thread on this board BTW. I think its gone pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I put the disclaimer "albeit against a pourous line", so lets try and get past that and try and see his quality play. This could be a turn around game for him, but he was dominant. He was less than dominant against other back up OTs. This is a good sign. Including the disclaimer doesn't mean we have to get past it or pretend like this thread is warranted. This is not hindsight. Everyone from Aaron Schatz to John Clayton said we're in big trouble if we can't pressure that OL, the worst protection team in the league. It was basically Spurrier's Redskins from 2003. Or heck the Redskins game last year. We didn't need $100mill to pressure those teams. We need it for the Jets & Pats (oops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Including the disclaimer doesn't mean we have to get past it or pretend like this thread is warranted. This is not hindsight. Everyone from Aaron Schatz to John Clayton said we're in big trouble if we can't pressure that OL, the worst protection team in the league. It was basically Spurrier's Redskins from 2003. Or heck the Redskins game last year. We didn't need $100mill to pressure those teams. We need it for the Jets & Pats (oops). How about the idea that teams can continue to get better throughout the year. Any thought to that? Teams get hot and rattle of W's in a row, but I supposed the Bils would NEVER be able to do that. Why can't this be a starting point? I bet I know how you're going to respond. It'll be interesting to see if I'm right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Two weeks ago the Cards gave up 8 sacks to the Dolphins ... last week they gave up 9 sacks to the Rams ..... of course our pass rush looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Two weeks ago the Cards gave up 8 sacks to the Dolphins ... last week they gave up 9 sacks to the Rams ..... of course our pass rush looked good. Nobody is arguing that the Cards have a horrible OL. Thanks for regurgitating this again. Cool story bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. THIS.... we play big games against New England and Miami soon... let's see it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 How about the idea that teams can continue to get better throughout the year. Any thought to that? Teams get hot and rattle of W's in a row, but I supposed the Bils would NEVER be able to do that. Why can't this be a starting point? I bet I know how you're going to respond. It'll be interesting to see if I'm right... Great, if that happens then have fun with your "where are the Haters" thread then. Not after one game. We had a "where is everyone who said we'd miss Pat Williams" thread after one game against Houston's terrible offense in 2005. Then the Bucs in week 2 and every decent team thereafter ran down our throats the rest of the year while fat Pat & his Vikings stuffed every running game for the next five years. This is just one example but there have been a lot of these pointless threads in the last 10 years. Just don't be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Great, if that happens then have fun with your "where are the Haters" thread then. Not after one game. We had a "where is everyone who said we'd miss Pat Williams" thread after one game against Houston's terrible offense in 2005. Then the Bucs in week 2 and every decent team thereafter ran down our throats the rest of the year while fat Pat & his Vikings stuffed every running game for the next five years. This is just one example but there have been a lot of these pointless threads in the last 10 years. Just don't be that guy. How many times do I have to say, I am not saying he's a world beater, I'm not saying anything earth shattering. All I'm saying is that Mario showed up and give him props for it. My goodness, why is this so hard to understand? Wow! I'm not trying to rub anything in any's face, I'm not trying to prove the "haters" wrong, I'm just trying to give credit where credit is due. Just give credit for the last game played. I am well aware there are many games left. Did I make any predictions? No, I'm merely trying to say, good job Mario, you had a good disruptive game. That's it and thats all. Can you understand or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 One common thing about any great player is that they are consistent. Does Mario play well on a consistent basis? No. Sure I am happy he had a great game but the Bills need productivity week in and week out. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) His wrist must have miraculously healed against inferior talent.... What the HECK is Mario talking about with this quote?? Williams may have had his best game of the season with three tackles, including his two sacks, and three quarterback hits. “I saw a lot of double teams that I didn’t see in a few of those games, and I really didn’t expect it,” said Williams. “I thought I was going to be more isolated. But they double-teamed, with tight ends and running backs on my side, probably due to those last few games facing those defensive ends. At the end of the day, you just got to go after it and make it happen. It’s not a given that someone’s going to go out there and fall over.” PLEASE STOP talking about...double teams, hands to the face and your baby wrist. This is the NFL and your making a couple dollars playing a kids...err Man's Game!! Edited October 15, 2012 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 What the HECK is Mario talking about with this quote?? Williams may have had his best game of the season with three tackles, including his two sacks, and three quarterback hits. “I saw a lot of double teams that I didn’t see in a few of those games, and I really didn’t expect it,” said Williams. “I thought I was going to be more isolated. But they double-teamed, with tight ends and running backs on my side, probably due to those last few games facing those defensive ends. At the end of the day, you just got to go after it and make it happen. It’s not a given that someone’s going to go out there and fall over.” PLEASE STOP talking about...double teams, hands to the face and your baby wrist. This is the NFL and your making a couple dollars playing a kids...err Man's Game!! He's not making excuses. He's just telling us what happened in this game. Film on the Cards showed little to no double-teams on DEs. Yesterday, they double-teamed him. Didnt matter because he still produced. As he said "At the end of the day, you just got to go after it and make it happen. It’s not a given that someone’s going to go out there and fall over." He's doing exactly what you want him to do and saying there are no excuses, you have to go do it. Why u mad, bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I don't quite get what you're saying here. Are you saying we say "its not his fault" he stole the money, or its not his "fault" he had a good game, or am I completely missing the point. Either way, if you're trying to dig at me, I haven't talked about Mario on this board until this thread. My first thread on this board BTW. I think its gone pretty well. I wasent directing it at you, but my point is Mario at this point is damned if he does, and damned if he dosent. So let's just see if he improves on this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Umm... Where was he against the Pats and 49ers??? Uh, the same place he was against the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 He was supposed to manhandle his opponent in all six games this year. That's what $100 million pays for. 1 out of every 6 games is just not going to cut it. well, by that standard he can now NEVER live up to the expectation since he will never be able to re-do those games. he had a good week. hopefully he builds on this. thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. I have to disagree there. Kelsay didn't play very well most of the game. He lost outside containment numerous times and both Kolb and their RB ripped nice runs as a result. Mario Williams has been playing the run solidly all season. And he did yesterday as well. GO BILLS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 What the HECK is Mario talking about with this quote?? Williams may have had his best game of the season with three tackles, including his two sacks, and three quarterback hits. “I saw a lot of double teams that I didn’t see in a few of those games, and I really didn’t expect it,” said Williams. “I thought I was going to be more isolated. But they double-teamed, with tight ends and running backs on my side, probably due to those last few games facing those defensive ends. At the end of the day, you just got to go after it and make it happen. It’s not a given that someone’s going to go out there and fall over.” PLEASE STOP talking about...double teams, hands to the face and your baby wrist. This is the NFL and your making a couple dollars playing a kids...err Man's Game!! Mario Was double Teamed a lot yesterday. TE helping to block, Chipping RB's and WR's. I saw it on every drive they had. Mario should have had 6-7 sacks yesterday. drew 2-3 holding calls where he was tackled from behind after clearly beating the isolated tackle. A what would have been hoarse collar where he had to let go, A missed intentional grounding call. You would think Gailey/Wanstache would have put a Spy LB after Kolb kept running, but thats too much to ask. The guy had a great game. Why cant we just be happy about that. It seems everytime someone compliments a guy there are people just wating at teh gates to rip them apart. It's unreal at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_phelaN1 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 His wrist is certainly wrapped up big time. I put the disclaimer "albeit against a pourous line", so lets try and get past that and try and see his quality play. This could be a turn around game for him, but he was dominant. He was less than dominant against other back up OTs. This is a good sign. On another note, I was digging that creep defense...a nice little wrinkle, much needed wrinkle. Unfortunately that is the problem. Against good competition, he has been practically non existent. So I am not going to come on here and sing his praises for a great game against arguably the worst offensive line in football. Yes, he had a great game, he was extremely disruptive (as was Kyle Williams IMO and he was getting held on almost every play) but when it is all said and done, he is going to need to do it consistently and against better competition before people around here care very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Unfortunately that is the problem. Against good competition, he has been practically non existent. So I am not going to come on here and sing his praises for a great game against arguably the worst offensive line in football. Yes, he had a great game, he was extremely disruptive (as was Kyle Williams IMO and he was getting held on almost every play) but when it is all said and done, he is going to need to do it consistently and against better competition before people around here care very much. Dude played an outstanding game and was a big reason for a road win against a quality opponent that stopped the bleeding after back to back losses and helped save the season. Yeah, let's not give him due credit for that. Why do Bills' fans compliments always have to have the word "but" after them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Unfortunately that is the problem. Against good competition, he has been practically non existent. So I am not going to come on here and sing his praises for a great game against arguably the worst offensive line in football. Yes, he had a great game, he was extremely disruptive (as was Kyle Williams IMO and he was getting held on almost every play) but when it is all said and done, he is going to need to do it consistently and against better competition before people around here care very much. I'm not going to continue to answer the same responses. If you read through the thread, you'll see what my answer to this same question is. That said, I think we're also seeing the D come together. What's happened in the past has happened in the past, this is a game to build on and move forward with. Lets see if he can do it next time around against the Pats in a few weeks, as the D has been able to gel some more. Teams can get better as seasons continue, its not unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelstephon Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! No offense but this is why football fans are so dumb. Mario could have 5 great games in a row but when he has a bad one he sucks and vice versa if he has 5 bad games then one good one he's DOMINANT... Reality is this, I'm smarter then all of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Thanks for telling me what I should and should not give a sh*t about, I was wondeiiring, should I go for the bagel or the english muffin. Tell me please, oh please sir!!! I need guidence aparently. Apparently you do so how about a ham sandwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 No offense but this is why football fans are so dumb. Mario could have 5 great games in a row but when he has a bad one he sucks and vice versa if he has 5 bad games then one good one he's DOMINANT... Reality is this, I'm smarter then all of you You're not smarter than all of us, I said he was dominant in this particular game, not all season, and I didn't proclaim that he was going to be dominant during the rest of the season. Who's smarter now? Apparently you do so how about a ham sandwich? The girl in my avatar took mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! let me know when it's a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 let me know when it's a trend. My guess is that you, and the rest of the negative nancy's on the board, won't have to be "let known" and that you'll likely be singing the praises of the D by that time. Until then, I'll take it one game at a time and recognize those who had a great game. Enjoy the rest of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 No offense but this is why football fans are so dumb. Mario could have 5 great games in a row but when he has a bad one he sucks and vice versa if he has 5 bad games then one good one he's DOMINANT... Reality is this, I'm smarter then all of you i don't think you read his post. He said Mario had a good game. Not that he was a dominant force all year. Can a man have a good game without all the hate? Not on TBD!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts