HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! His wrist must have miraculously healed against inferior talent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 His wrist must have miraculously healed against inferior talent.... His wrist is certainly wrapped up big time. I put the disclaimer "albeit against a pourous line", so lets try and get past that and try and see his quality play. This could be a turn around game for him, but he was dominant. He was less than dominant against other back up OTs. This is a good sign. On another note, I was digging that creep defense...a nice little wrinkle, much needed wrinkle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Good game. I dont care how the other teams' o-line is. You still have to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. I disagree, but you can have your opinion. I say they were both very disruptive, but Kelsay is not getting double and triple teams. In the past few games maybe Mario was not getting double and tripled as much, but in this game he was. Good game. I dont care how the other teams' o-line is. You still have to get the job done. My point exactly my man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I disagree, but you can have your opinion. I say they were both very disruptive, but Kelsay is not getting double and triple teams. In the past few games maybe Mario was not getting double and tripled as much, but in this game he was. They both had strong games, but against THE WORST tackles in the league. I'm not going to sing his praises until Mario plays this way against strong offensive lines. He hasn't been worth the hype and the paycheck so far. My hope is, though, that this game boosts his confidence (if that was an issue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. I 2nd this. Mario did look great yesterday though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 short term : he looked dominant, had his best game. mid term: did it against the worst OT's in the league and his previous performances were below average. long term: i have every confidence he will be a highly productive player, but..... never live up to his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Mario did what he got hired to do. Good to see him disrupting and giving the other team fits (no pun intended). People forget he missed 11 games last year and is playing in a new defense. I think he is getting his mojo back. I'll give him a ham sammy for the effort. Also, I really like the Gimore kid. He leaves it all on the field. There was a point in the 4th quarter when a coach had to pull him off the field for a play or two. I don't know if he got his bell rung or what. One thing I worry about is him getting his eggs scrambled too often. Edited October 15, 2012 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, Mario played well. Now, let's see him play well against a line that doesn't have the 2 worst tackles in the league. Yes, he was facing the worst tackles in the history of the National Football League, without a doubt. Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. and Kelsay is the worst player the Bills have ever had, right, so that makes Mario Williams the worst of the worst of the worst? Listening to WGR radio and can't believe the negativity from the fans. Enjoy the win, joyless fans. They don't come too often. oh and p.s., Mario Williams was DOMINANT yesterday, get over it, children. Root really hard and he might fail again next week for your pleasure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, he was facing the worst tackles in the history of the National Football League, without a doubt. and Kelsay is the worst player the Bills have ever had, right, so that makes Mario Williams the worst of the worst of the worst? Listening to WGR radio and can't believe the negativity from the fans. Enjoy the win, joyless fans. They don't come too often. oh and p.s., Mario Williams was DOMINANT yesterday, get over it, children. Root really hard and he might fail again next week for your pleasure... Actually, I think Kelsay is a solid player. Mario is supposed to be a GREAT player. Mario is playing like a solid starter right now, who looked great against a bad tackle. Kelsay, also looked great against a bad tackle. I do enjoy the win, but I'm not going to get drunk on kool-aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Mario's good play was a big factor in yesterday's win. His bad play was a big factor in all of our 3 losses. So he's 1/3 of the way towards making up for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I don't see much talk about the game Mario had. He was disruptive as heck yesterday. Yes, he got 2 sacks, but he was in the backfield constantly yesterday. I remember listening to the John Murhpy show last week, or the week prior, and he had a guest come on saying that Mario was just a sacker and would not really get pressures. Well last night, he got pressures and caused some errant throws. I was impressed, albeit against a pourous line, its still an NFL line. He seemed to be playing with urgency, along with Kyle Williams of whom we've come to expect these types of games. Marcel was in the backfield more often too. I also would like to shout out to our first round pick, Gilmore, he played a heck of a game IMO. Go Bills!!! Agreed on both accounts...let's see if they can carry this forward. Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. Strongly disagree...Mario was all over the place yesterday. Kelsay did play well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I saw kelsay getting double teamed on a few plays, believe it or not. And kellen moore looked really solid too. While there was constant pressure all day, kolb really hung his oline out to dry, hanging onto the ball too long, getting happy feet when the protection was there, etc. He looked like JP Losman out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdragon2 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Off-topic a bit, but I was REALLY impressed with Moore....decent replacement for Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I liked what I saw from Kyle Moore too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay was absolutely horrid on the edge in run defense. He did get some pressure which was a change. Mario played with attitude and I liked it. RTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kelsay had a better game than him. That should tell you something. Like maybe Kelsay shouldn't have been delegated to second string? Mario Williams had 3 "solo tackles" (3 QB hits) and two sacks for the Bills, Kelsay had 6 "solo tackles" and 1 sack for a Safety (1 QB hit). There should be a stat for plays when a guy gets double teamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Actually, I think Kelsay is a solid player. Mario is supposed to be a GREAT player. Mario is playing like a solid starter right now, who looked great against a bad tackle. Kelsay, also looked great against a bad tackle. I do enjoy the win, but I'm not going to get drunk on kool-aid. There's no kool-aid drinking here, I'm just pointing out a solid game and I said I know its against a bad OL. Let me ask you this, how many of you thought he was going to manhandle that Jet's OL and he didnt? So he was supposed to but he didnt in that game, he was supposed to and was dominant in this game. I think that marks good progress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 He was supposed to manhandle his opponent in all six games this year. That's what $100 million pays for. 1 out of every 6 games is just not going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I agree, it's OK to give the guy some credit, he played very hard, and maybe kelsay is better than Mark Anderson too, but try to be happy around here about a player people decide to scapegoat on this board, and you'll get criticized. More people around here that call themselves fans seem to thrive on the negative than those who try to see the positives out of a game, masked by the attitude that they don't drink the coolaid. Blah, blah, blah, whoopie, they hate everything about the team till they win a superbowl, welcome to TSW, but I am glad to see you found something good out of yesterday's game as I did. The game was ugly at times, but they played hard, played as a team, and I give them credit for not folding after 2 of the worst weeks of football I have ever witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 I would also like to point out Mario could very well have had 4 sacks when all was said and done, but he held up on one sack because it was going to be a horsecollar (smart play by him) and then there was an obvious intentional grounding call that the officials said was not. Regardless, good game, not calling him a world beater yet, just a pat on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 When Mario performs like that against one of the best OL instead of THE worst he should be praised. Fairly or unfairly he is expected to destroy a terrible OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'll be happier when we play competitively against AFC East opponents, and earn a spot in the playoffs. I don't expect a superbowl. In fact, hell, if we finish with a winning record (some how), I'll be thankful. But we still have so much work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'll be happier when we play competitively against AFC East opponents, and earn a spot in the playoffs. I don't expect a superbowl. In fact, hell, if we finish with a winning record (some how), I'll be thankful. But we still have so much work to do. Nobody is arguing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Fairly or unfairly he is expected to destroy a terrible OL. Ding ding ding. I'm not saying he had a bad game. I'm just saying it was expected of him, and that others who aren't seen as the savior of this organization played just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) His wrist must have miraculously healed against inferior talent.... Actually it looked like he was in pain much of the game, I saw get up slow holding the wrist several times. But he needed to dominate a weak offensive tackle and he was double teamed by the FB and RB most of the game. Great game for Mario regardless of the opponent, now lets do that against the Patsie's. Off topic, I was watching the GB/Hou game and the Bills really need a play making LB. I was so jealous watching Clay Mathews run all over the field. Unfortunately the Bills have starting LB's that would barely make most rosters. Edited October 15, 2012 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all of Mario's sacks came against rookie RTs. Not impressed by that. Do it against the Jets, Dolphins, and Pats that's why you were brought here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all of Mario's sacks came against rookie RTs. Not impressed by that. Do it against the Jets, Dolphins, and Pats that's why you were brought here. Congrats, you're regurgitating what others are already saying. Welcome to the school of redundancy. Cmon people, I'm just saying he had a good game, nothing more and nothing less. I didn't proclaim him the greatest DE in history, acknowldege he had a good game, say good game, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Congrats, you're regurgitating what others are already saying. Welcome to the school of redundancy. Cmon people, I'm just saying he had a good game, nothing more and nothing less. I didn't proclaim him the greatest DE in history, acknowldege he had a good game, say good game, and move on. Yes he's had good games against mediocre competition, and nobody should give a sh*t about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Congrats, you're regurgitating what others are already saying. Welcome to the school of redundancy. Cmon people, I'm just saying he had a good game, nothing more and nothing less. I didn't proclaim him the greatest DE in history, acknowldege he had a good game, say good game, and move on. It's just the way this board is... The Bills won, BUT.... Mario played well, BUT... Or whatever positive, BUT... I can't say I blame most who do this, being a Bills fan will beat you down! BUT, I still Billieve... Edited October 15, 2012 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes he's had good games against mediocre competition, and nobody should give a sh*t about that. Thanks for telling me what I should and should not give a sh*t about, I was wondering, should I go for the bagel or the english muffin. Tell me please, oh please sir!!! I need guidence aparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 It's just the way this board is... The Bills won, BUT.... Mario played well, BUT... Or whatever positive, BUT... I can't say I blame most who do this, being a Bills fan for 30+ years will beat you down! BUT, I still Billieve... I've been a Bills fan for 20+ years, not quite 30 but quite a long time. I still hold faith and still understand that a W is a W is a W. I'm trying to give props to a player for playing well and they all want to shoot it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I would be more worried if he didnt dominate yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Often times I was focusing on the DL and thinking 'man, Mario is on the right side and getting pressure every play!!!!!' Then I realised it was a 54 and it was Kyle Moore! I thought he played great - better than Mario and Anderson have played - and earned a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 I would be more worried if he didnt dominate yesterday Exactly, he didn't dominate against inferior talent in the first 5 games, but he's finally dominated, it doesnt matter who he's playing. Its progress... Often times I was focusing on the DL and thinking 'man, Mario is on the right side and getting pressure every play!!!!!' Then I realised it was a 54 and it was Kyle Moore! I thought he played great - better than Mario and Anderson have played - and earned a starting spot. I agree, Moore looked really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, the Cards O-Line is bad but I think Mario would have been that disruptive against anybody yesterday. He has the physical talent to do that every Sunday. The question is, will be motivated enough to play that way every Sunday? Whatever the Bills did to him during the week, they need to repeat that another 10 times yet this season. When he plays that way, he gets accounted for with chips and double teams, which allows guys like Kelsay, Dareus, Williams and Moore to get favorable matchups and be disruptive. They still more depth on the D-line. If they don't get stops early in drives, they wear down and the lack of depth shows more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yes, the Cards O-Line is bad but I think Mario would have been that disruptive against anybody yesterday. He has the physical talent to do that every Sunday. The question is, will be motivated enough to play that way every Sunday? Whatever the Bills did to him during the week, they need to repeat that another 10 times yet this season. When he plays that way, he gets accounted for with chips and double teams, which allows guys like Kelsay, Dareus, Williams and Moore to get favorable matchups and be disruptive. They still more depth on the D-line. If they don't get stops early in drives, they wear down and the lack of depth shows more. I agree, good points all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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