Butch Rolle 4 President Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Some people kill me....WE PLAY BRADY TWICE A YEAR! Also, everyone is now saying the NFL is a pass first league. McGee has missed how many games in the last 2 years? McKelvin is just horrible and is in the last year of his contract this year and wont be a Bill next year and Florance is on the wrong side of 30. We NEEDED to nake this pick and time will prove how good a pick this was. Sure, it may not be flashy but it is rock solid Any Relation to Artis Gilmore? Go Lambchops! Go Gamecocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missthe kgun Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Nice pick! RD 2 Stephen Hill Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharebear Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 gilmore is an excellent tackler yes but can he shut down an NFL WR? I don't think so.. watch some game tape of him on youtube, he gets beat deep quite often, doesnt get interceptions and has bad ball skills, he has the size an speed but thats about it, imo it was a reach at 10. I know im on the floyd bandwagon but he could of helped out or offense alot more than gilmore will with our D. Floyd is the perfect fit for fitz who throws wild balls all the time, also it would of free'd up stevie. Im not confident randle or hill or jeffery will be there when we pick in the 2nd. So wheres our true no2 WR? i know no one is counting on easley not only to be healthy but actually come in for the first time and be a game changer.. i just dont see it. Blown pick IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 C'mon, credit where its due, no? Am I not doing better than I was with Whitner and McKelvin. Again, I am more sad than angry. But the fact is, this is yet another top resource down the toilet. Yes, you are. And it's still the highlight of the season for me. Which, when you reflect on that, is a sad indictment of both the Bills and myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He was quoting Gruden. You know, the guy who knows players and how to win so well that he has sat in the booth for the last couple of years with his Super Bowl ring Dungy gave him? http://www.kffl.com/a.php/130105/nfl-draft/2012-NFL-Scouting-Report--Stephon-Gilmore--CB--South-Carolina Weaknesses Lacks experience at the position after playing wide receiver through his high school career Overly aggressive on occasion Needs to improve technique (hence looking stiff on the field at times) and recognition skills Anticipatory skills barely adequate Small hands (9 1/4 inches) may help explain his lack of ball skills Read more: http://www.kffl.com/a.php/130105/nfl-draft/2012-NFL-Scouting-Report--Stephon-Gilmore--CB--South-Carolina#ixzz1tCWc1Un9 Sounds a lot like McKelvin to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I don't doubt Nix's talent evaluation skills. But I am still not sold on his team-building prowess. Take linemen and pass rushers high, they make the skill position players less important and less expensive. If Nix thought we were losing games last year because our corners were hurt, and not because we were getting blown off the line on defense, I'm sorry but he's nuts. Did we not sign two FA rushers? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg17 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 How sad. How truly sad and stupid. When they threw early picks in the garbage for Whitner and McKelvin, I was furious. This time, I am really feeling sorry for Fitz, and even sorrier for us as loyal, true fans. Buddy will probably be fast asleep by the time I have finished typing this post, but make no mistake, he just hurt this franchise. And again, fans such as us deserve better than this absolute, true, incomprehensible idiocy. Another dismal day for Bills fans. Look on the bright side. You'll have a new target for your crusades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Florence, McGee and McLovin won't be Bills after this year and if they are they'll be coming off the bench. Getting a starting CB this year to team up with Williams means we'll only have to find nickel and dime backs next offseason to fill in the sub packages. I like it This. Well said. I'd love to see them trade up to grab Glenn or Martin at the end of the first round here ... they can grab a WR in round 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 How sad. How truly sad and stupid. When they threw early picks in the garbage for Whitner and McKelvin, I was furious. This time, I am really feeling sorry for Fitz, and even sorrier for us as loyal, true fans. Buddy will probably be fast asleep by the time I have finished typing this post, but make no mistake, he just hurt this franchise. And again, fans such as us deserve better than this absolute, true, incomprehensible idiocy. Another dismal day for Bills fans. I said this earlier today. Our corners sucked last year. I watched them closely and think this year is different. this year helps us a lot. Leodis cant cover. T will play a game and be hurt for 7. And Florence did a lot of talking last year in the off season and even more when we traded Lee Evans. I was expecting him to back his mouth up and improve on a good year the prior season. He didn't. He got burned almost as much as Leodis who in case I've not mentioned, Sucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 C'mon, credit where its due, no? Am I not doing better than I was with Whitner and McKelvin. Again, I am more sad than angry. But the fact is, this is yet another top resource down the toilet. Tell us who you would have drafted and we'll look back in a few years and see which pick worked out better. You are a pretty knowledgable fan but you seem to have missed that the league has changed and being able to stop the pass is a prerequisite to winning. Every GM out there that I've heard talk speaks of a few positions that are "big-impact" positions and CB is always one of them. In general I agree with you that you build from the lines out. But there was nobody there worth the pick. With as highly valued as LT's are its very telling that Reiff is still on the board almost an hour later. He wasn't worth the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Now Sanu in 2!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm not a fan of DBs, but that is due mainly to the failure of the Bills to pick them successfully. In terms of value, good CBs are right up there with left tackles in terms of how hard they are to find. It will be said at nauseum, but its a passing league. I don't know enough about Gilmore to have an informed opinion about him, but I do know that McKelvin does not = Gilmore and Whitner did not = Barron. We'll see what happens. It seems clear to me that the Bills plan on getting to the QB and expect opposing offenses to make quick, short passes..which is why they took a physical corner who is good at pressing. We'll see. But he was probably the BPA unless the Bills wanted a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I don't doubt Nix's talent evaluation skills. But I am still not sold on his team-building prowess. Take linemen and pass rushers high, they make the skill position players less important and less expensive. If Nix thought we were losing games last year because our corners were hurt, and not because we were getting blown off the line on defense, I'm sorry but he's nuts. But... who did you want to see them take and where do you fit them in to address "getting blown off the line on defense"? The Bills added two players to the DL this offseason. Once Kuechly was gone, who's the guy you wanted to see to shore up the front 7? I don't think Nix thought we were losing games solely because of bad corner play, but I gotta say, watching those games last year, there was some downright horrific corner play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Revis has the best instincts of any CB in the league. This guy is nowhere near his level. Workouts don't always translate to production, see Vernon Gholston. Watch the tape draft droid. You'll see what I'm talking about. The Underwear Olympics is not in pads adjusting to WR's on the fly. I screened all the video for the top 17 CB's this year. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I am super stocked at the potential of williams, gilmore, and even rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjbills69 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Bills needed a CB he was the the best available in a draft that is not CB deep, WR is very deep, very good pick IMO Edited April 27, 2012 by cjbill69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 C'mon, credit where its due, no? Am I not doing better than I was with Whitner and McKelvin. Again, I am more sad than angry. But the fact is, this is yet another top resource down the toilet. Just say it Bill. Who did you want? Reiff? When is it okay to draft a DB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 The entire NFL is populated by senile GMs who know nothing. How in the world can we go through 17 picks of the first round and have 4 DBs selected and only one OT? These guys don't know how to build a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Reuben Randle or Sanu in RD 2 and everyone will shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 We'll see what happens. It seems clear to me that the Bills plan on getting to the QB and expect opposing offenses to make quick, short passes..which is why they took a physical corner who is good at pressing. What's really going to piss off the folks is when they take another CB on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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