Big Buffalo Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think this guy is going to be the next great pass rusher. Oh and Poz sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Very insightful post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills99999 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think this guy is going to be the next great pass rusher. Oh and Poz sucks!  Not quite  Moats is progressing very nicely-way ahead of the curve for a rookie  Poz does not suck, he is average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinegun12 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I really like him too!!! Â ...but I also like Poz. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think this guy is going to be the next great pass rusher. Oh and Poz sucks! Â Yes, Moats has a lot of potential. Â You do not understand football if you think Poz sucks. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Agreed with POZ does not suck he's average- I have attacked the unwarranted hype he got early in his career along with the brutal criticism London Fletcher got- but if Poz stays healthy he is serviceable- as for Moats he has certainly shown some pass rushing skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Got to love Moats..... I can see him getting one or two more sacks this week... I hope maybin doesn't get jealous for making him look worse and poison him or something ......, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Got to love Moats..... I can see him getting one or two more sacks this week... I hope maybin doesn't get jealous for making him look worse and poison him or something ......, How could anyone make Maybin look worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Just saying..... He is getting on the field as a late round pick not even making half the money and producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think this guy is going to be the next great pass rusher. Oh and Poz sucks! MOATS is showing signs of being our first really good linebacker in a long time ... fire, drive, instincts, smarts and willingness to work at succeeding. Â POZ is slow and average but with MOATS at his side POZ has been playing much better ... he doesn't suck but he is not going to be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas56 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 So far, I really like what I've seen from Moats, a rookie. If the trend continues, we may have found one, out of two, OLBs. Kelsey is certainly not that answer on the other side. Nice enough guy, but not an OLB. As for Poz, he is undersized, I think he would be/seem a lot better if we had a better line. The next off-season/draft needs to find a really good DE that can get after the passer and complement Moats, but he would need to be able to stop the run, too. Hopefully, we can move Kyle to the other DE spot and have Troup fill the NT spot. Then we would have a line that can cause trouble. Both the DEs would be able to rush and stop the run. We need to get another OLB out of free agency or the draft. Then we might have a chance. By the way, even though no one asked, I am okay with Whitner either way - stay or go. I like Wilson, but Whitner is a good safely, not top 5, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedGame Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Got to love Moats..... I can see him getting one or two more sacks this week... I hope maybin doesn't get jealous for making him look worse and poison him or something ......, Maybin will unleash an arsenal of moves on Moats. Luckily, Maybin won't be able to get past Cornell Green. Or Al Green. Or Al Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 How could anyone make Maybin look worse? MAYBIn makes MAYBIN look as bad as anyone can ... Neither Moats nor anyone else can lessen the stature of MAYBIN who is lucky to have McCargo around so that he is not the only complete and total failure drafted in Round #1 by the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I love the fact that Moats caused Long to have a false start. It shows that opposing players have taken note of what he can do -- even guys as good as Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Just wait until we get Danny Batten back from IR next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocwocka Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Maybin will unleash an arsenal of moves on Moats. Luckily, Maybin won't be able to get past Cornell Green. Or Al Green. Or Al Davis. Well played, sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 So far, I really like what I've seen from Moats, a rookie. If the trend continues, we may have found one, out of two, OLBs. Kelsey is certainly not that answer on the other side. Nice enough guy, but not an OLB. As for Poz, he is undersized, I think he would be/seem a lot better if we had a better line. The next off-season/draft needs to find a really good DE that can get after the passer and complement Moats, but he would need to be able to stop the run, too. Hopefully, we can move Kyle to the other DE spot and have Troup fill the NT spot. Then we would have a line that can cause trouble. Both the DEs would be able to rush and stop the run. We need to get another OLB out of free agency or the draft. Then we might have a chance. By the way, even though no one asked, I am okay with Whitner either way - stay or go. I like Wilson, but Whitner is a good safely, not top 5, but good. carrington troupe williams... draft, free agent, poz, moats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Moats is giving us what I hoped Merriman would..... Â I know the chances of this are like 5 percent but.....wouldnt it be nice to have Moates on one side.....Merrimen on the other.....just wreaking havoc out there? Â A guy can dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Moats is giving us what I hoped Merriman would..... Â I know the chances of this are like 5 percent but.....wouldnt it be nice to have Moates on one side.....Merrimen on the other.....just wreaking havoc out there? Â A guy can dream I imagine merriman healthy and happy on the other side of moats. heck yes a guy can dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I think this guy is going to be the next great pass rusher. Oh and Poz sucks! Sure, easy to jump on the bus now; how about back in July! Moats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Just wait until we get Danny Batten back from IR next year. Â I really like what I saw from Batten in the pre-season. Has qualities similar to Moats in that he is a tenacious player who seems to "bring it" on every play. He is also known for his good character and leadership skills...good locker room guy. It'd be nice if we could slide him into that other OLB position. I think he would be best on the strong side because of his size and ability to play the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Moats is a pleasant surprise but he had a very good college career in 1aa. He is making impact plays. He has some learning to due but he seems to be more of a natural than any other lb that we have. He does get controlled at times but he has the non stop motor and has looked good against bigger and stronger players. He has more upside than any defender that we have. Poz is an average LB with very little upside left if any. Moats in his short tenure has made more impact plays than Poz, Maybin. combined. I understand why Gailey gave him a try at ILB at the beginning of the season. He would be a monster at that position if he could master it. However if he doesn't improve he could be the latest flavor of the week. He has James Harrison, Elvis Dumerville capabilities. I think Gailey and staff will coach him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I really lke Moats, and am eager to see if he gets stronger going into next year. He could be a real handful as a pass rusher. Â On the negative side, he looks a bit slow in pass coverage, and I think can be exploited. As far as I can tell he's making decent reads, but just can't physically keep up with receivers. I'm just going off of what I see on TV, which is nowhere near the full plays (or Moats on all of the plays). I kind of hope he's just making his reads a bit slowly and will improve. If it's raw speed he lacks, that might really limit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Moats has 3 sacks this season and could easily finish with 4 or 5 and its made more impressive given that he has only been starting at OLB for a few games. Â All in all I think we can roll with Moats at one OLB and draft a pass rusher at the other OLB. Also Poz is a more then capable MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Agreed with POZ does not suck he's average- I have attacked the unwarranted hype he got early in his career along with the brutal criticism London Fletcher got- but if Poz stays healthy he is serviceable- as for Moats he has certainly shown some pass rushing skills. Â Â Agreed...poz is turning out to be a poor mans version of Fletcher, constantly making tackles downfield. The only difference is that Fletcher would have cost 25M whereas poz came for 5M. Business decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 carrington troupe williams... draft, free agent, poz, moats  OK not to be the Bluebird of Pessimism here Williams, undersize and all, has been lighting the place up as a nose tackle.  Why do we think it would be beneficial to move him to end? Second post I've seen suggesting this.  Kelsey. We extended him. So where does he fit if above is the scheme?  Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonestake Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I imagine merriman healthy and happy on the other side of moats. heck yes a guy can dream! Â Â i keep forgetting that we have merriman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hate the Bills ! Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'm liking Moats's big play ability, perhaps we should continue to Scout James Madison for more 6th round talent. I'm always amazed how Buffalo gets great late round talent but cant pick a decent 1st round round except maybe 3 out of 10 years. Woods, Evans, Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Buffalo Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yes, Moats has a lot of potential. Â You do not understand football if you think Poz sucks. Period. Poz does make a lot of tackles but they are after someone has been downfield 7 to 10 yards. He is always being burnt by someone.He sucks.....period!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 carrington troupe williams... draft, free agent, poz, moats  Thank you for spelling out the detail on why WE DO NOT NEED TO DRAFT MORE DL's!!!!  We may be able to draft both LB's - I sure would like to see the Bills' grab the top TE - whoever that is.  1. LB 2. TE 3. LB  Would make me very happy next April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The next off-season/draft needs to find a really good DE that can get after the passer and complement Moats, but he would need to be able to stop the run, too. Hopefully, we can move Kyle to the other DE spot and have Troup fill the NT spot. Then we would have a line that can cause trouble. Both the DEs would be able to rush and stop the run. No, we need Da'quan Bowers on the other DE side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thank you for spelling out the detail on why WE DO NOT NEED TO DRAFT MORE DL's!!!! Â We may be able to draft both LB's - I sure would like to see the Bills' grab the top TE - whoever that is. Â 1. LB 2. TE 3. LB Â Would make me very happy next April. Â +1 with one modification: OLB, ILB, OT, in any order over our first three picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 +1 with one modification: OLB, ILB, OT, in any order over our first three picks. I think we could use a Fa tight end, draft another later on in. I like the olb,ilb who can cover a little/lot, and ot( there are some good ones too). Those seem good picks Nickel. Not in that order. maybe. But I forgot about this Batten and shamefully know little about him. Help me out please. I think coach will make Pozlusny better and more effective with a couple more tweaks to the D in the offseason. Moats himself has made Poz a little better looking already. He is consistent for the most part. As Chan says in way, packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Sure, easy to jump on the bus now; how about back in July! Moats I was on the bus when we picked him in the Draft, of course, everybody knows that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 nice score then! Gotta love the boy Moats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I was on the bus when we picked him in the Draft, of course, everybody knows that already. He seems like a really well-rounded individual, as does Nelson. Both very articulate individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I'm liking Moats's big play ability, perhaps we should continue to Scout James Madison for more 6th round talent. I'm always amazed how Buffalo gets great late round talent but cant pick a decent 1st round round except maybe 3 out of 10 years. Woods, Evans, Spiller. Â That's why as much as people female dog about the Bills drafting (it's been bad no doubt) but it still is a crap shoot. It doesn't make sense that 6th rounders from JMU should outperform 1st rounders from LB U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thank you for spelling out the detail on why WE DO NOT NEED TO DRAFT MORE DL's!!!! Â We may be able to draft both LB's - I sure would like to see the Bills' grab the top TE - whoever that is. Â 1. LB 2. TE 3. LB Â Would make me very happy next April. Â dream scenario is david harris to take the inside lb and draft the olb. i think we can resolve our tight end through free agency as well. i doubt bo scaife or zach miller become free agents but one can dream. in the draft i say we trade down and pick up an extra second and we take a rt, and two lb's with the first 3 picks and a nose tackle in the 3rd for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 well its settled then. We are ready for the offseason and the draft. I hope. Who is the NT in the 3rd you have in mind? and cb97. it must be fitz magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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