tecmobowlbills Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Great, filled a need...but why in the 2nd round with this guy? I know you can't trust everything the experts say but man oh man there was talent out there at LB, QB, LT. Not happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Personally I would have been happier with a LT, but they finally drafted a lineman instead of another CB or RB so I can't kvetch too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Should have taken Clausen. But this fills a need. A big need. At this rate, he might be there for us in the 3rd [still think he's toxic, but just sayin...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackemrack Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 kindle to the ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyd19 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Should have taken Clausen. But this fills a need. A big need. +1 I don't like Claussen, but I have a feeling we'll be watching a game a few years from now talking about how many teams were dumb for passing on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Since when have the Bills shown that they're better at drafting than the conventional wisdom/consensus? Since John Butler was there, that's when. The Bills need to earn the benefit of the doubt by having some of these reaches pan out. Drafting a NT with a 3rd-round grade when there's higher-rated (by consensus) players available at QB, LT, and NT? You'd better be right. The last decade of history suggests the Bills will be wrong again. You can't hope to defend them until they prove us wrong, because we've been right for years now. Exactly, anyone say reach? My problem here is with value. Which I hate as a term, but this guy is obviously getting taken way too early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 We couldn't have traded down with NE? You can't tell me anyone was burning to get Troup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Since when have the Bills shown that they're better at drafting than the conventional wisdom/consensus? Since John Butler was there, that's when. The Bills need to earn the benefit of the doubt by having some of these reaches pan out. Drafting a NT with a 3rd-round grade when there's higher-rated (by consensus) players available at QB, LT, and NT? You'd better be right. The last decade of history suggests the Bills will be wrong again. You can't hope to defend them until they prove us wrong, because we've been right for years now. And who exactly WORKED with John Butler...? Oh yeah, Buddy Nix. F### are you people hating on everything the new FO does a bunch of drama queens. When Troup is playing on the first day of the season and shows you what he's got, you'll all be eating crow. Just like all of you crapping on the Jarius Byrd pick last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 another jills f%^&* up.... if not JC , what are we going to do about the O line........ don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 REACH. Better value could have been had in Clausen or Brown. Troup, Cody, or Cam Thomas would have been there at the Bills 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I like it. Why the hate? We need a NT bad. If Nix determined that Troupe was a better NT than Cody, you can bet at least some of the other 3-4 teams also made this determination. I'm glad we got him. Now trade back into Round 2 and get a LT and I will LOVE our draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Exactly, anyone say reach? My problem here is with value. Which I hate as a term, but this guy is obviously getting taken way too early Agreed. Sounds like this was a guy who could have been there in the 3rd. He seems to have been rising in the last few weeks, though, so maybe the FO thought they couldn't take the chance to fill the big need at NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 You people realize that draft projections, after the first handful or so, are just guesses for the most part, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I can hear it now... Buddy...He was the highest ranked player available on our board and was the guy we were going to trade back into the first round for. We are very happy he was still there in the 2nd round. blah blah blah... Buddy said the guy they were trying to trade up for was already gone before the spot they were trying to move into.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 So now the Ralph can erupt in Trooouuuuuupe everytime he makes a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 everyone STFU about cody. He's overweight, lazy, and takes plays off. If Troup played at Alabama you wouldn't be complaining. Good pick by Buffalo. So true brother. This guy can certainly be developed, I think far more than Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 They took the top guy (per their thoughts...I'm not big on Cody either) at what I consider the top position of need and one of the hardest positions to find guys for or switch guys in for. I don't know much about him, but I am very happy to get the top NT available here. I don't think Clausen is necessarily better in 2010 than Edwards, I don't think Campbell is necessarily better in 2010 than D.Bell. I DO think that Kyle was not going to hold down the NT position, and I didn't know where we were otherwise going to fill this. Would he have fallen to our 3rd round? Could we have traded down with this pick or traded up with our 3rd? Probably. But I would guess we got a good football player at our most important position of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 To pass on Clausen, Mccoy even Brown the OT or Kindel and take a guy that played low level competion means to me Ralph wanted to save $ once again. Terrible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 People need to stop basing their idea of where a guy should be drafted based on ESPN.. ..or think it matters what round a guy is drafted in.. ..if a player can play then he can play... ..it would be nice to have players that can play instead of drafting for Madden like 90% of the fans on this board want to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Another DT taken and it wasn't Cody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 To pass on Clausen, Mccoy even Brown the OT or Kindel and take a guy that played low level competion means to me Ralph wanted to save $ once again. Terrible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 There is no doubt where the Bills rank in NFL interest. They spent the whole time of the Bills countdown talking to Holmgren and ignored it when their choice was made. Then they went to commercial, came back and did a token mention of the pick and switched to ESPN2 :worthy: :worthy: NFL Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Some of you are a piece of work... 2nd round? 3rd round? You have no idea when he would have been taken. If the Bills took him in RD2 - who says 1 other team didn't also think highly of him? It doesn't matter where you pick your guys as long as you get them. Clearly, they didn't want to risk losing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 And who exactly WORKED with John Butler...? Oh yeah, Buddy Nix. F### are you people hating on everything the new FO does a bunch of drama queens. When Troup is playing on the first day of the season and shows you what he's got, you'll all be eating crow. Just like all of you crapping on the Jarius Byrd pick last year. The Bills have been more wrong than right (please see win record last ten years) so not everyone is ready to love this pick yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 ESPN chat guys are just hammering us. Absolutely hammering us. Oh noes!!! Not the ESPN chat guys. Can't say I'm thrilled with the pick, but most of the people bashing the pick just know nothing about him. I like Cody but obviously he is falling for a good reason. Nix helped picked Jamal Williams. I'll trust him over ESPN guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I had already resigned myself to the fact that they hate Clausen (fine, we'll stink so bad next year that maybe Gailey will get fired and a real coach will draft Locker #1 overall), but how do you pass on Charles Brown there? Dude is gonna be a solid Day 1 starter at LT, if you ask me. Not a great run-blocker, but a great technician in the passing game, and he has those super-long arms everyone's infatuated with these days. It just really bothers me how little the Bills seem to care about the two most important positions in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I like the pick a lot. Everything I've read indicates that he's a good, strong run defender at the NT position. I can't argue with that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 To pass on Clausen, Mccoy even Brown the OT or Kindel and take a guy that played low level competion means to me Ralph wanted to save $ once again. Terrible choice. This may be the stupidest theory I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Since when have the Bills shown that they're better at drafting than the conventional wisdom/consensus? Since John Butler was there, that's when. The Bills need to earn the benefit of the doubt by having some of these reaches pan out. Drafting a NT with a 3rd-round grade when there's higher-rated (by consensus) players available at QB, LT, and NT? You'd better be right. The last decade of history suggests the Bills will be wrong again. You can't hope to defend them until they prove us wrong, because we've been right for years now. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Bottom line: With so many teams running a 3-4 defense, players with the Troup's natural size and strength will be in high demand. Troup has a massive frame, looking more like he weighs 340 than his actual weight of 314. When he plays with proper leverage and hand use, he flashes the ability to hold the point of attack extremely well against multiple blockers -- the main skill 3-4 teams are looking for in a 0-technique nose tackle. However, he is limited to this position by his lack of athleticism, as he lacks the quickness to consistently disrupt the backfield and the lateral speed and agility to make plays outside his "A" gaps. He will need to improve his hand fighting and fitness if he wants to develop into more than a two-down backup at the next level, because in college he struggled to produce on runs at him and late in games. He will probably be drafted higher than we have him rated because there is such a premium on his position, but he will probably always be limited to playing on first and second down.[/i] huh?(part in bold) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayers Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 People need to stop basing their idea of where a guy should be drafted based on ESPN.. ..or think it matters what round a guy is drafted in.. ..if a player can play then he can play... ..it would be nice to have players that can play instead of drafting for Madden like 90% of the fans on this board want to do +1 Kiper is in love with JC and everyone is passing on him it should tell everyone on this board how good Kiper is at rating people he sucks is one of the worst and JC will be the same he sucks and should not even go till the 3-4 round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Dude is gonna be a solid Day 1 starter at LT, if you ask me. I don't think any NFL team did..at all...or will ever do so..I don't know anything about the guy and I'd be disappointed if my ESPN informed opinion matched up with the team's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Torrell flippin Troupe? Are you serious? Ahead of Cody, Thomas, and Joseph? Wow. How do you justify not taking Cody? What a sh*tty pick with Charles Brown, Cam Thomas and even Cody still there. No excuses. This is a 3rd round pick. REACH. Better value could have been had in Clausen or Brown. Troup, Cody, or Cam Thomas would have been there at the Bills 3rd round. Quoted for dexterity. I am so glad this group of deep thinkers do not work for the Bills. Perhaps try to know a little of what you're talking about before you just start immediately bashing. Dumbasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I love this pick the more I'm reading about it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 To pass on Clausen, Mccoy even Brown the OT or Kindel and take a guy that played low level competion means to me Ralph wanted to save $ once again. Terrible choice. Remember Tulane......LOL... CLausen = trade meat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewfla Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 This was a great 3rd round pick. Should have been Charles Brown. This just goes to show Buddy locks on with tunnel vision. About 4 mins total time on two picks. Trade down 25 spots and take this non penetrating slow high motor guy. Ugh lets get our QB's killed and open no holes for Spiller. Makes no sense. Jake Locker here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 I like it. Why the hate? We need a NT bad. If Nix determined that Troupe was a better NT than Cody, you can bet at least some of the other 3-4 teams also made this determination. I'm glad we got him. Now trade back into Round 2 and get a LT and I will LOVE our draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fires Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Some of you are a piece of work... 2nd round? 3rd round? You have no idea when he would have been taken. If the Bills took him in RD2 - who says 1 other team didn't also think highly of him? It doesn't matter where you pick your guys as long as you get them. Clearly, they didn't want to risk losing him. I agree Scott...... We filled a need. And at this point it doesn't matter. The player is now a Buffalo Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Another DT, not Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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