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I could be mis-remembering, but weren't you using "poor LB play" and Tremaine Edmunds in the same sentence? And again, I could be mis-remembering, but I don't think that sentence was to the effect of "good thing we have Edmunds so we don't see poor LB play in Buffalo"

And yet another reason to be glad that we didn't back up the Brinks truck for Tremaine Edmunds

I don't remember Spector NOT looking good whenever he's played. I know preseason is more basic football but he's looked excellent and instinctive in those opportunities. Dodson had also almost always looked solid as well(despite some claims to the contrary). AJ Klein had a nice run when he had to start(once they adjusted his role to his strengths). Even Julian Stanford looked good filling in for Edmunds in 2018. Preston Brown lead the NFL in tackles in 2017 and Ramon Humber wasn't even too bad before Milano took that job over full time. Lorax was also excellent in a hybrid role that included a lot of LB. You pretty much gotta' go back to the Rex days to see poor LB play in Buffalo.

this is hilarious, the 2 whipping boys of the season are the only reason the Bills are in this. now we just need Tremaine Edmunds to get a pick 6. oh he's not here anymore

Edmunds got traded?!? Wow, the mob has lost their minds. Let’s blame him for everything.

THANK YOU, Tennessee!!! And Terrell Edmunds on the coverage! Ha!

they seem to be going after Edmunds 😂

Terrell Edmunds>Tremaine Edmunds

That is why I said the loss of Milano is the only one hat weakened a position. Bernard strengthened his position compared to Edmunds. And I was an Edmunds supporter. Jones return more than makes up for the loss of the oft injured Phillips. We are in very good shape physically.

Some people will go out of their way to sneak in a backhanded dope slap thread at Edmunds.

I disagree again. Kincaid was the “pass catcher” that Beane talked about in his end of season conference. Yes he’s a TE, but they were chasing 12 personnel for a while and Kincaid had arguably the best hands in the draft. He’s literally exactly what Beane talked about. Also…he did take an interior olineman in the Second and talked all off-season that they thought the successor to edmunds was already in the roster. It was posters like you that didn’t agree with that so you conveniently ignored all those comments.

McBeane have used almost as much RD1/2 draft value to acquire Josh as they did on offense in those rounds from 2018-2022. They went Edmunds, Oliver, Ford, traded for Diggs, Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham, Elam, and Cook. My concern is McD gets his way again and because they used their 2023 on Kincaid, figure they can go back to defense in 2024.

When Milano gets back we will have some quality depth at the LB position where there was a lot ??? early in the season and I thought we were thin. The taking heads and media pundants were all preaching doom and gloom with Edmunds' departure in FA and that the Bills would struggle with an unproven Bernard. Both Dodson and Bernard have come on strong.

In general agree, but we have too many holes to fill and not enough high picks to fill them to spend another pick that high on double dipping. Bills currently have 10 picks. 1st 2nd 4th 5th 5th 6th 6th 6th 6th 7th I believe we're expecting to get a 3rd for Edmunds as well. Giving us 11. I could see Beane using a couple of those 6th to package with a 5th or 4th and moving up in those rounds. So maybe a 2nd WR there if the right guy falls. But it will take some luck and finagling. Go Bills

Joe Marino had Greg Thompsett on his podcast a couple of weeks ago. Thompsett stated the Bills were $29M over the cap for 2024. He did not cite where he the number came from. Thompsett said the Bills could make a few salary moves with Allen, Diggs and McGovern to get under the cap. Bills have 9 draft picks but will get awarded another one for Edmunds. 44 players under contract is a great start.

I guess I’ve seen enough of Von’s tactics (he’s the Trumaine Edmunds of sack specialists - over pursue and watch the QB run from the pocket).

I've seen a few other Bernard threads pop up, so might as well bump the OG. Comparison time, just for fun: Terrel Bernard in 2023: 134 tackles 6.5 sacks 3 interceptions 3 fumble recoveries 9 QB hits 10.5 run stuffs Tremaine Edmunds in Buffalo: 121 tackles in his best season (113 avg per season) 6.5 sacks in 5 seasons! 5 interceptions in 5 seasons! 0 fumble recoveries in 5 seasons! 18 QB hits in 5 seasons! 10 run stuffs in his best season Unreal jump in production from Tremaine to Terrel and at a bargain... AND getting a 3rd round comp pick back. Well done, Brandon Beane. Well done, Terrel Bernard!

We already gave up a 3rd rounder for Rasul Douglas. I'm not clear on which that was, but if you're talking comp pick for Edmunds, I don't think a comp pick (>96 in the 3rd round) plus a "mid rounder" gets you from wherever we finish (mid-20's?) to top 12.

Trade for Edmunds. Turn Von into a safety.

I was honestly worried at the start of the year. I thought that he might be the weakest link in the defense, and I am happily surprised and relieved to see him play at such a high level. Now I'm thinking about what it would look like to go back to a 4-3 base when you have a Dodson-Bernard-Milano group I am not an Edmunds hater (I was hoping to sign him back at the time), but it's hard NOT to compare a new starter to the person he is taking over. Not here to drag Edmunds, but Bernard has been playing at easily Pro Bowl level, arguably All Pro and is doing so on a draft contract as a 3rd round pick.

I was referring to this thread. As to the Tibet question, I was here reminding everyone who blamed anyone other than Josh, it was indeed Josh. No glee or gloating. That’s TBD mob mentality with “Cook sucks”, “Bernard sucks”, “Brown sucks” and gloating when they make a mistake. Same crew that somehow forgot they were mocking Edmunds every week in Chicago. Until he shut them the eff up. To the bold. Please tell me this is a rhetorical question. You know the answer. You’re not dumb. Well, the fact that you even asked that question…

Edmund’s has helped the Bears defense improve tremendously. And Bernard has played great as well. Be happy and stop being bitter exes.

Those numbers aren't correct, but yes Bernard has been the far superior producer. I'd buy into Edmunds improvement more if the improvement was across the board. The fact that he still isn't producing any negative play numbers around the LOS like one would expect from a massive LB tells me that modest upticks elsewhere might just be circumstantial. I still believe that he will underwhelm compared to his contract and not play it out........the Bears will cut him in a year or 2 when his cap hit blows up. But I also hold out some hope that the switch comes on for him in his late 20's like it did for DeMario Davis. The thing Edmunds has going for him is his huge frame and athleticism. He's built to play a LONG time. By contrast a smaller, instinctive guy like Bernard may have a career more like Shaq Leonard........a handful of great seasons followed by physical decline.

Edmunds is a different style LB then what we have now. Comparing him to Bernard or even Dodson is not very effective because the requirements are different. I like Edmunds but at his cost he was not worth it and we have obviously made do with his replacement.

NO !!! - 73 Total Tackles - 29 assists - 4 INT's - 0 sacks - 0 TFL's - I'm not thinking he's missed much !! Bernard - 134 comb tackles - 53 assists - 6.5 sacks - 3 INT's - i don't think Edmunds is missed !!