Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I doubt you can do that with a 5th year option. He has no contract beyond 2025, so to create void years would need a contract to start with. Even when void years are created it's not done unilaterally, player needs to sign off and even if Groot wanted to, there's not contract to sign off on. The Bills have 3 options with Groot, let him playout the 5th year option at just under $14 mil Take the $14mil cap hit Sign him to a new contract with a signing bonus spread over years and then could add void year, but you're not going to sign him to a new contract and then turn around and cut him as that would very likely cost even more.

By the time you see the formation coaches can't tell them what to do at that point, microphone is cut off. Players on the field need to figure it out.

True, but I just think coaching the guys you played with this recent isn't always good. Go somewhere else, coach for a year or two there, then can hang your shingle that you are actually a coach, then come back here if you want.

Well if you don't resign Groot, you have a $14 mil cap hit this season, so tough not to sign him too.

For less than 2 months, that's different than year round. I assume he did live he during past years so who knows? It may be easier if he really wants to get into coaching to start with one of the teams in the area LA, Vegas and also may be better when first starting out as coach to go to a team where you aren't coaching the guys you just played with can make it tougher for him.

Yes but then you have all the posts it's all McD and Beane's fault and need to be fired. Some of this blame does need to go on Josh and the play calling of Brady meanwhile a 7 page thread about how lucky we are that Brady withdrew from Saints job (ant not saying he should go either) Also no idea how many of the defensive and even offensive issues weren't due to coaching at all, but 100% on execution. There was article in the Athletic today that talked about the 3 phases of Allen in the game, the first phase was the gunslinger of old somewhat panicking, then the 2024 version took over, and don't recall what exactly he referred to the 3rd phase as.

Add to that his momentum was carrying him away form the ball. I'm not a doctor, (but did stay at Holiday Inn) so can confirm that would make it even harder to get to the ball.

I'd be surprised if a guy living in San Diego want to leave that to coach??

Well if you're letting Groot go, you're throwing $14 mil out the door, so very doubtful that happens. I think Hamlin as a backup is probably as good a player as many other teams have. Don't know if he needs to be cut, but certainly should not be starting. Last year I was hoping they'd sign Douglas to an extension, but his play tailed off and would let him go. I'd use 1st round pick on CB if it were up to me.

I think in hindsight KC all season was maybe sleepwalking through many of the games and would just play well enough to win. But could have done more if/when needed. And when they did need to step up their game yesterday, they did. Add to that one of the narratives of last weeks Ravens game was many Bills players were out for the 1st game, the same was true for KC in the November match up. And while we had some players out in November, think KC had more overall talent missing than we did.

Yeah, question is ho much $$ will it take

If you look at most defensive stats KC defense was better than Bills over the entire season . So if leaking 32 points is so bad, then was leaking 29 by KC any better? Did you think the Bills defense was going to shut out the Chiefs? The bigger issue to me in this game was the two stops and 4th down, missed two point conversions, plus two 3 and outs in first half, repeatedly running same play on offense that wasn't working.

Another low hanging fruit is sign Groot to new contract which removes 5th year option salary saving maybe close to $10 mil. And Allen would be a 3rd big saving, easily knock maybe $15 mil off the top

Miller, Spector sure Cooper thought he's a FA?? Hamline shouldn't be starting but would be as good a backup as many teams have. Kincaid is a huge over reaction like often the case here. Posters here would have ran many Bills players off after first couple of seasons (Brown, Knox are at top of list) who have become strengths. Did Kincaid have a disappointing year, yes, but was that on him or the offensive scheme? Why did he have less targets to me that's due to scheme? Looking at his numbers, seemed like once he came back from being injured, he wasn't looked at very much. As far as last play, that's one of those where his momentum is carrying him one way, and now needs to come back the other way. It's a very easy play to make for those sitting in their recliners watching on TV, but much harder for the actual player on the field.

Hamlin doesn't need to go, but he shouldn't be the starter. As a backup, he's likely as good as most backups. Move Bishop to SS and sign a FA free safety. Last year I'd have voted to sign Douglas to an extension, but his play dropped off. IMO I'd use my 1st round draft pick on a CB, and sign Benford to an extension. Then have Rapp, Hamlin, Ingram, Lewis as depth and maybe try and maybe sign a better backup CB too. I'd put my big FA money on signing or trading for a DE who can get 10 sacks a year in his sleep. Think AJ and Solomon as backs are good and sign Groot to a new contract. I think Carter will become a good 1-DT, but still may struggle some in year 2. Think Oliver will look much better with good play next to him LB also needs some help Milano is back next year as costs more to cut him than keep him, but see how he plays next year if not back to old level, cut him in 2026. And would use maybe a 3rd round pick on his possible replacement or a better version of Bernard. Offense the only need is WR, I would start with signing Hollins to a 2 or maybe 3 year deal. Think they are stuck with Samuel for another season as would also cost too much to cut.

Maybe right on Hendrickson. As to WR, the Bills just scored the 2nd most points in the league, set a team record for points scored. So yes could they use a better sure. But think DE and CB are bigger needs and defense in general. To me the biggest weaknesses of the team, was getting off the field on 3rd, probably followed by sacks which are kind of inter related.

Really well the track record of TBD calling players trash is pretty bad, Brown Bass, Knox, 2 years ago Dawkins are a few that come to mind. If players on the Bills roster could be voted off the team by fans they' all been gone along time ago along with others that have turned out well. The problem is poster have zero patience, if a guy's not all pro by 2nd year, get rid of him is the mind set here.

Other than WR what position on offense is there even a likely open roster spot. I'd sign Hollins to a 2 year deal, need one more WR and rest needs on on defense. Agree biggest FA need is a DE who can get 10 sacks. Heard rumors that Hendrikson on Bengals may be cut loose to save $$

Elam certainly has been a bust, but to label the other Coleman and Kincaid is way to soon.

Agree wasn't a simple routine catch, had to come back for it and those are often tough of momentum going other way

Not sure I agree on the Daboll part, but yeah Brady and Kromer weren't ready for anything KC did for the most part. 4 plays couldn't gain one yard! Was the fade to Coleman on the coaches or was that just Josh being Josh again?

Not just that one play, others too surprised Bills. 4 plays they couldn't gain one yard. Early on Allen seemed to hyped too. The team that made more good plays won, but think it was the execution of the play

4 plays couldn't get one yard

Expected the KC offense to do well particularly once Benford went out and no Rapp, but expected Bills offense to do better. KC defesne surprised Bills too many times

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