Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Well as fast as KC scored on other drives, they could have scored and still left us with a minute on clock LOL Can't figure out how Bass could lose it so fast?? It's not like he's been around 12 years or so and his leg is shot??

I'd like to see him back as #4 WR on cheap deal mainly for blocking abilities. But likely some team will offer him big $$. I'd be fine with Diggs, new #2 WR, Shakir in slot, Davis, and Shorter. Or maybe Shorter can take Davis role, not sure how he is in blocking?? Has very similar size to Davis. Think he was faster?? If he can fil lthat role, thenhave another spot open.

Developing him for what?? To leave in 4 years or at the first chance he gets? I'd be really pissed if I were drafted by the Bills as a QB as know there is no chance I'm ever going to play unless Allen gets hurt. In many other cases, Raiders, Pats, etc, the team doesn't have an established #1 so switching to the rookie often happens so he'll get chances to show what he can or can't do, but not in a handful of places like Buffalo And how would say a 5th or 6th round rookie who never played in an actual real NFL game better than a guy who's been around the block a few times, wasn't able to hack it as a starter, but even then is miles ahead of a rookie.

Yeah don't want to have two new safeties in same year. White will be tougher as can't cut an injured player and zero incentive for him to take an injury settlement that doesn't pay him every $$ owed him. If no savings then why cut him plus now allowed to?

Agree with everything you say. But how is it also good offense that scores 7 second half points? The offense needed to compete in the horse race, but didn't/couldn't. I'm not blaming the offense, but wouldn't give them credit for a good game either. Too much of the same of what they did all year. But against a team as good as KC, needed more particularly with all the injuries.

2nd Half Offense Drive 1 Good 8 minute drive ending with TD This is where the good ended Drive 2 and 3 3 and out Drive 4 Long drive down to 26 yard line, but even if kick were made still close to 2 minutes left for KC. While they managed to get to the KC 26 it wasn't easy getting there. Run game was totally stopped, he did start throwing to Kincaid again which was good. But leaving Bass with a 44 yard kick in cold temps with stiff winds wasn't an easy kick to make so wouldn't cal this a great drive either. So if you feel this showcases a good offensive performance, think you and I have a big difference between good. 4th quarter when it mattered the most the offense was pretty bad overall. Agree if you look at the stats, they look pretty good. Funny part about the stats too if you looked at Cooks average yards per carry, every time he touched the ball after the Bills TD that got them to 24 points, it kept going lower. He finished the game at 3/4 YPC, one time it was around 6YPC I think I saw. What should they do differently, stop running on 1st downs for no gain leaving them with 2nd and 3rd and long. If their game plan was get a high time of possession which don't disagree with to keep KC off the field, why is Allen throwing all these long passes instead of taking check downs? If the concern is the defense isn't going to be able to stop them which you've agreed with, great a high time of possession plan is good, but then need to keep scoring which they didn't.

Yes but change for the sake of change with no evidence of improvement isn't any better either.

I'll want to wait a month or so before saying he's done to keep an eye out if it's all of a sudden announced he had some type of off season surgery, back related maybe??

And what makes you so confident you'll find anyone better? I'ts easy to say you will, but when you look at how many coaches get fired every year, no idea will be any better and likely short term would set things back

Yeah until Milano's replacement got hurt, and then his replacement got hurt

I can understand this week because of how depleted the defense was, but then need to score pretty much every drive. One TD in second half won't work.

All teams have injuries, but when down to 4th stringers against what is still a very good KC team it will make a difference. Many here seem to be forgetting that many of the players who were out this week with injury or playing but not close to 100% were already playing for the original injured starter.

Yes, so what did the Bills offense do differently to adjust in Q4?

Were they? Think people are forgetting the injuries we had weren't to our starters, they were to the backups who were already replacing the starters who were out for injury. When you're down to 4th string LB's and 3rd string CBs playing still one of the top offenses in league when they need to be, hard to fault the defense. Actually the stat that I thought the OP was going to bring up was the Bills held the ball for 37 minutes but lost. Which goes back to defense, but again with who was out there, hard to expect them to stop KC

Agree. The strategy was fine, but the problem was it stopped working in 4th quarter as the Bills offense became ineffective.

Agree with the strategy, but if McD didn't think his defense could stop KC why would he then think a low scoring game would win it. Last week against Steelers, that wasn't a bad strategy, but against KC?? Yes grind it out is great as long as they can keep scoring every drive. But in 2nd half didn't do much on offense other than one drive. So the banged up D couldn't get a stop, and the healthy offense couldn't score!

As was pointed out in Sundays BN and in one posters comments, can't cut White until he can pass a physical which is doubtful by March. So only option would in an injury settlement, but why during off season would a player accept anything else but every $$ he was due? Injury settlements work during regular season when a player is now fully recovered but was placed on season ending IR, so takes the settlement and joins another team. So if you have to pay him all the money anyway, may as well keep him around. Knox had around the 8th highest contract this season for TE's, but most of the players behind him had contracts ending this year. Likely means by next season Knox will become around the 22nd highest paid TE. Think it may depend what the Bills truly want to do next year. Do they really want to go with 12 personal, if so then worth keeping and money may be worth it. His role may become more of a blocking TE and he still would be one of the best pass catching blocking TE's in the league.pass catching

So if the defense was better they would have tried to score more than 7 points in 2nd half? Grinding it out is fine when it's working and you have the lead. But once KC took the lead you had two 3 and out drives. With all the injuries going into game on defense, the Bills needed to score more than 24 points to expect to win. Yes the grind it out is great when it works, but when it stopped working, need something else, and they had very little. Ask yourself this, before the game started, if you were told the Bills will score 24 points tonight, with all the injuries, would you think 24 points would win the game?

You had 3rd and 4th stringers playing last night in multiple positions on defense yesterday and gave up 27 points to one of the better offenses in league and likely the best QB. Meanwhile on offense, missing only one starter who everyone wants to get rid of anyway and in 2nd half had one TD and a missed FG on 4 drives including 2 3 and outs. If all the Bills normal defense starters were playing then would tend to agree, scoring 24 points on KC should be enough to win, but with all the players that were out, needed more. Especially more than 2 3 and outs in 4th quarter.

Tend to agree. Think last night was Brady's worst game, but may be because it was against the best team he faced. When things stopped worked in this game he just kept doing it again rather than trying something different. Too many 1st down runs for 0 or 1 yard gain late, so now 2nd and long. The only issue with doing a search is timing. Until he's named OC, he's up for poaching too. Are there really better OC's out there that aren't already an OC? Likely would need to find another Joe Brady, a guy who was an OC, got fired and now is a position coach. But then you're hiring a guy who wasn't a good OC tostart with. Don't disagree with you, but there's a whole bunch of other threads saying the issue is coaching, McD specifically and need to fire him. So how can it not be the same here. Granted one difference is more history with McD, but still same issues yesterday on HC dropped passes, not taking easy check down throws, and multiple injuries.

What was the option? Cut Bass and bring in a new guy? Or in this game go for it on 4th and 9?? I don't know if Diggs would have got the 1st down, but could have brought it down to more like 4th and 3 or so, then could see them going for the 1st instead of kicking. Agree on other 2 plays, too may times trying for the big one instead of moving the chains. There were other drops too, think the Shakir drop was worse, but did make up for it on the TD catch. Also bad drop by Cook, did they still score on that drive? Hard to figure out though how Bass could go from so good for really great first 3 seasons to this year. If this was his 14th year instead of 4th, could chalk it up to his leg is shot.

Cook, Benard, Shakir, Benford, and Spector from 2022, Kincaid, Torrance, and Williams in 2023 Groot and Brown in 2021 overall is a pretty good building block. Jury is still out too on Elam and Shorter. Think they need to do a reset this off season with guys like Poyer, Hyde, Morse, then wait to the following year for Diggs, and Miller. Build around Oliver and Allen plus a handful others and the names above.

Diggs and Bass must have started smoking the same thing about mid way through the season as that was about when they both went to hell.

Plus McD created all the injuries. When 4th stringers can't easily beat the Chiefs, that's on the coaches. Dropped passes also were on him.

Think the truth is some where in the middle. Yeah there was some hero ball play by him, but little else was working. On the other hand can't call legendary going 26 of 39 for 186 yards. The Bills had to play perfect today with all their injuries and a somewhat weak WR group and for awhile, they were close to that. Certainly seen many better games from Allen including the 13 second game. This game may have relied more on Allen than the 13 second game, only because nothing else worked for the most part, but that's not a good enough reason to cal it legendary IMO. I'd just say Allen did all he could. Overall play calling was up and down, early on going to Kincaid was working, but then stopped till the last drive. Once KC stopped Bills runs, they kept trying same plays anyway and gaining 1 yard. The longer the game went Cooks yards per play average kept going lower, but that didn't stop them from running the same plays.