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Add to that, having Cook back there or Johnson or Davis makes the passing game more effective too. When you have a top level great QB, the need to a #1 WR drops way off. Add a top level WR, the offense may generate a few hundred more yards but if the new guy gets 1400 yards, it means someone else(s) is getting around 1000 yards less.

Agree on Rousseau and Benford. Not certain I'd certain I'd want to go there yet on the other two. Read an article yesterday how Cook is asking to be paid like the elite, but he is on the field at a much lower percentage than these others. Rarely does he play on 3rd down.

Doubtful. They haven't done that the past few years. When you factor in how much they went with 6 O-line makes having an extra WR kind of pointless. Add to that, they were expected to go with 2 TE's much more than they did. Likely the reason they did not was due to Kincaid having the torn PCL that was not known to anyone outside. Overall the team was most effective being more balanced and also passing out of the 6 O-line formation and with a RB on the field. There's no need for 6 WR when you look at what the team did best. They have to replace Cooper and Hollins, most everyone is hoping they resign Hollins so that leaves one spot left to sign either an experienced player or draft a rookie in the first couple of rounds, but not both. Unless they cut Samuel, but money wise hard for them to do that.

You planning to cut Samuel as that adds up to 6 WR and they almost always only carry five. When posters start talking about who they they think the team will sign or draft, you need to be able to count to 53! I've read a few posts how they should draft 2 rookie DT's Then add Oliver Jones, Carter, an 2 rookies is 5, that's it ad having two rookies backups at the same position and your other backup is only in his 2nd year, doesn't likely mean the team will be better in 2025. They may be better in around 2027 , but not right away.

I wonder how good the NFL's technology will be a stopping IP spoofing?? Hmmmmm.......

I think Bishop is better suited for strong safety so could move Bishop there and sign Cisco for FS. Then either have Rapp for depth or cut/trade him, admittedly wouldn't get very much in a trade maybe a 6th or 7th. Add to that as much as Rapp was hurt, wouldn't be a terrible thing. However the Bills have Bishop and Rapp for another year. Considering they have somewhat limited resources to spend in FA, not sure you'd want to spend money on a player that may not have a starting position for him. but if the Bills feel moving on from Rapp as a starter is a positive move, then yes to this.

Yes but walking in from the parking lot is brutal!

Like everyone wants to talk about the 13 second game in that the Bills were leading when Allen walked off the field. Bills were leading that day too when Johnson walked off the field. They didn't lose because of Johnson, they lost because of ST. The year prior, Flutie's first year, he played lights out. 2nd year 99 Bills, they won because of their defense and Flutie did OK He was nothing that special that second year, but he was special in trying to take the credit and deflect all blame in press conferences.

Was that the year Ferguson got hurt or was that 1981?? I'd go with whichever year it was he was hurt. Believe they played in the Bengals in playoff game, temp was rea; cold and lost

Agree the issue isn't Allen, it's the defense and that needs to improve. But also shows for everyone who wants coaching changes, the Bills have been the 2nd best team over the past 5 years and that does say something. It also indicates that there's a very small window with changing coaches and improving as there's very little room. So of the 6 teams to make a SB appearance or better are from the NFC which is pretty wide open, every year it's spin the wheel as to who goes that far it seems. A couple teams may have 2 points on the wheel. This article could have been titled the NFL has a playoff problem as the Chiefs are the outlier. Unfortunately for the Bills and the rest of the AFC, they have to get through KC. But for many also get through Buffalo too.

Yoga Retreat??

So I've thought of that happening too, it's not totally out of the question, but do think it would take a lot for it to occur. He is under contract through 2028, doubtful anything would happen for the next 2 years and very likely the Bills would tag him probably at least twice before coming to the realization that he's not going to resign here and consider a trade. There's another thread here talking about him only having 5 good years left so that would put him pretty close to the end of that 5 year period anyway so maybe Bills would be ready to take whatever they can get accoring to the other poster. The one thing I'd question is your comment about an offensive minded coach. You're making a big assumption that McVey would still be there coaching in LA that he doesn't get fired prior. For all the complaints about McD, McD has a winning percent of .642 compared to .602 for McVay Yes McVay is 1-1 in the SB and that seems to give a lifetime contract with it in the NFL, but he's also had a 5-12 record in there. Seems like everyone here gives a lifetime pass for any coach that wins a SB. Tomlin, Harbaugh, and McVay are 3 names that come to mind, at least McVay won it within the past 5 years, I'll give him that. Maybe those fanbases want their coach fired and possibly would be lobbying for the team to hire McD?

Agree with that part Exactly I think the odds of it becoming a crap shoot are much higher with a rookie than with Bass. Likely too if you did draft a rookie, throughout the entire preseason, the rookie may do all the kicking and even if they split 50/50 it still may only be 6 or 7 attempts between the two of them. In your mind 3 or 4 kicks apiece in subdued game conditions plus practice would determine a "winner"? I wouldn't be opposed to using a late round pick on a rookie, but unless Bass totally falls apart before the season starts, there's no real competition, this rookie is just there in case of emergency or Bass struggles real bad mid season. Best case would be to draft the rookie and place him on the PS, but if he did look even half way decent in preseason a good chance another team grabs him when you cut him to try and move him to the PS or if not then, during the season if a teams kicker got hurt. Actually real best case would be you make the guy kick until his leg is ready to fall off and he strains a muscle, then can move him to IR and keep him there all year unless Bass really struggles. But that means using one of believe it's two OR designated to return slots and doubt the team would want to do that for a kicker.

To bring in legit will cost money, likely a decent signing bonus if he is a true legit kicker. Plus why would a true "legit" kicker sign with Buffalo when he knows unless Bass looks terrible, Bass will win the job as too much money invested in him and other than late in 2023 and early 2024, he's been a very good kicker.

The article makes a good point, there was another article also suggesting he could be gone. Edwards has one year left on contract, he'll be gone next year for certain due to the youth around him, so would make sense to make the move now so you have 3 years of playing time while on rookie deal. I don't agree with the article on who the replacement will be, I think the starter will end up being Van Pran-Granger. While the trade idea sounds good, question would be do they re-coup the same saving if he's traded compared to cut. And also don't think you'd get a 3rd, maybe a 4th, but that's even debatable. I believe Bates had more time left on contract so was worth giving up more for him, whereas Edwards only has one year left. Do think Miller either takes a huge pay cut o he's gone. I do think Martin may be gone as they signed at least one (thought there was a 2nd?) punter and it give a $2 mil savings. No idea how much money if any could be saved by cutting Morris but see they signed Davidson to a contract, could see him being the #3 TE assuming he is a half way decent blocker and can play ST. I wounder if they'd consider cutting Trubisky as also a $2mil saving. They signed M White and have that other player Bushle?? AJ also could be gone if they sign a high end vet DE plus a depth DE free agent and draft another mid round that leaves, Groot, new FA, rookie, vet, and Solomon .

I remember that quote, I've used it a number of times myself over the years when talking football.

Higgins may be a bit better than price, but yeah if a team signs him to be their #1 and doesn't have a top 10 QB, agree he likely will drop way off in numbers

I think what gets missed is great QB's create great WR's not the other way around, but don't let any WR's hear that. They will insist it's the other way. (Diggs... you sure about that?) This kind of becomes this never ending cycle. Say Higgins was a FA last off-season. A team like the Giants may have gone after him thinking that will solve all of Jones's problems. It may be helpful in the early years for a QB, did Diggs initially help Allen, yes, but once the QB ascends to top level, they can make any WR looks good. Recall 20+ years ago, think it was when Bledsoe was QB he had Moulds and P Price. Price had this great year, went to Atlanta and stunk up the place. The other thing too is having better weapons just means the existing ones will get less receptions/yards. If the Bills signed Higgins, doubtful nor would it be good overall if Allen threw for an extra 1000 yards. There's only one ball to go around. Do the Bills need better play at WR, yes, but not exponentially better. Teams don't need better WR's they need better QB play overall.

Could do a wait and see, if no teams sign him by early July, means nobody wants him. I'd then sign him then with understanding, he's likely going to get cut and placed on PS (with a higher than required salary, but not too high either). Keep him there as insurance in case someone got hurt. Also would be good opportunity to evaluate how he looks in camp. Wouldn't play him in pre-season at all either so other teams can't get a look at how he's doing. If he doesn't look good, then wouldn't even bother with PS option. I say this, but do think he's strong enough that some team will sign him well prior, but if they don't, then here's plan B

Reading how well the Bill's strength staff was rated by NFLPA, there's got to be something that happened behind the scenes that lead to him being fired, likely something HR related?? Unless it's so big it becomes a law suit probably never hear.

More than a coach, could see where a person in that position gets too close to the players and allows them to miss goals and maybe even covers for them?

Thought I'd read Ferguson is a FA and isn't there a 4th QB under contract? He was on IR all year, and seems his wife is the chief social organizer of the team? And isn't there also a 3rd punter? They signed on in Dec or so and didn't I read they just signed another within the past week?? So with as few potential roster openings it does bode well for the idea of trading some pics for high quality player or two. I often read posts, the Bills need to draft 3 WR or 3 DL, (whatever) well for that idea to work, you actually have to have an open roster spot for these new players.

Benford and Shakir would be the first two

The year I was talking about was the year we beat NE out by one game. So I suppose it's also McD 's fault that he coached them to 13-3 this year too then? If you want to talk regular season record, then it's all on McD that we have the 2nd best overall record over the past 5 years or so?

Really? The Bills have won the AFCE 5 years in a row. How many seasons did they clinch with 6 weeks left to go besides this year? Two years was one game and 2 years was 3 games so wouldn't count on that too much.