Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin seems like a marriage made in heaven!!

Read an interesting comment about him today on a post listing a couple sentence bio on every pending NFL FA. For Hollins it said why has he been on 5 different teams, Maybe it’s because coordinators get frustrated when he doesn’t run the route as diagrammed. Never heard that comment directly this past year, but could be true and maybe why less interest to resign him than most of us expected. Don't think Allen minds that, but can see where the coaches may not be happy with it.

I think if Trubisky were to be cut it would have happened prior to today both to help the Bills cap wise and also to give him the chance to hookup with another team. At this point would be very surprised to see him cut. They also have a 4th QB believe his name is Buschle, I know his wife seems to be the "class mom" for the team, always organizing things for the other wives. I do think unless White clearly our performs Buschle, could see him getting cut.

Every year it's the same thing, the number comes out, then 3 days later when the details are released usually easily reduced.

So do wonder, prior to noon today, how many deals are already sort of worked out. Does Beane already know who will be announced to day going to sign in Buffalo and have 98% of the $$'s worked out?? I'm thinking it's not Beane talking to anyone direct, but Beane talks to someone who talks to an agent who contacts the players agent. This way no charges of tampering can arise, plus all the teams likely do the same so nobody will report anyone else.

So guessing at this point both Johnson and Hollins have been given offers from the Bills, but they want more. They are likely in the category of if you can't get what you want elsewhere, call me before you sign anything. Maybe we can still work it out.

He's getting counseling from Diggs on the best approach.

They've often had two shots as starter and both times failed so by then they have come to the realization that a backup QB still pays good money and keeps them in the game.

Yeah he was an old one too. Marv liked him as they could discuss their likely social security income together.

Doubtful. With a FA that makes sense, let the guy see if he can get what he thinks he's worth compared to what we're offering. Either way no money loss to the team. In Millers case, the Bills just took a cap hit so very little incentive now to sign him. It was worthwhile for the Bills to have seen if they could have got him to agree to a pay cut down to around $8 mil as that would have reduced the cap hit, but still gave them a player who did have 6 sacks last season.

Also recall a year or two prior during the regular season Kelly was out for around 3 weeks, many were predicting we'd go 0-3, Reich won all 3 games! Exactly, I posted the same thing. No good potential backup QB has any interest in Buffalo. The only way Allen comes off the field is either he got hurt or at the end of a blowout. You'll either get a guy like Trubisky or maybe someone who is really at the end of his career and around age 35/36. The Bills have a better chance at getting Aaron Rodgers to come here than someone younger that still has a shot to prove himself..

Agree they need a nose tackle kind of guy inside. Assuming they do sign a good Edge rusher and if Miller comes back, someone needs to move inside then on pass plays so whoever that is could replace Brown as likely not as good rushing the pass.

Will be shocking if it didn't. In fact in Groots case, that's about the only logically reason to give him an extension right now as the 5th year options is pretty high, think around $15 mil??

I believe there is also a limit as to how many prime time games any team can be scheduled for. Keep in mind to, there are some late season Saturday games with teams listed as TBD for now. Likely will get one 4:05 non doubleheader game, plus could also be flexed into another game. Rumors about them playing in Europe too, so no 9:30 games listed at all yet. Do think they will have more than 1 Monday night game though, likely a home and away. So could be 8 right now, but by season end, likely less. Post is probably more of a guess at this point as very likely a person who knows nothing could easily come to same approximate conclusion.

Has there ever been a 50 YO long snapper? That's the one position could see it happening at.

Kind of funny,a week ago, would have guessed Benford would be the 1st one extended before these 3

Sorry, but Gable's not available as I'm including him in my trade package for Miles Garrett!! LOL I do agree that Gable is too good to keep on the bench much longer, but also think the same can be said for VPG and he is a guard/center so if Edwards were to be released, he'd likely have a better shot at taking his spot. Long term, I think he's likely McGoverns replacement, but can't be too long term as only 3 years left on his contract too now. QB and O-line are two positions that starters play every snap barring injury and blow outs so do agree we have a glut of O-line talent that's not going to play so would be worth trading some there. For similar reasons in that he is good I think he'd be someone Cleveland would value in a trade package. I really don't want to give up 2 first rounders for anyone so would rather include players and ones that likely won't be playing in the near future barring injury. I'd offer Cleveland a package of Gable, Epenesa, Elam, & Kinkaid plus draft picks for Garrett. Assuming they are able to reach a deal with Miller, if they have Garrett, Epinesa's not needed, Elams a throw away in the deal, Gable as agreed, doesn't have a spot to get on the field, the only potential talent the Bills are giving up would be Kinkaid and many of the brain trust here will tell you he's a bust. Personally I do think he is talented and would do well here long term, but have to give up something of value to get a player like Garrett. So I'd take those 4 players plus a 2nd round this year and a 2nd & 4th next year would be my offer. I think a package alone including Gable and Kinkaid has more value than one 1st rounder. Would that get it done, don't know, would potentially up this years 2nd to a 1st to get it done. Maybe my package is too generous as I do know GM's value draft picks much more than most posters he do and NFL trades usually involve less draft pick value than many expect. So flame away!

Beane said to Von, "put your GM hat on for a minute, what would you suggest?"

Are the NFL players trying to copy the NBA? Don't recall ever seeing so many NFL players demanding to be traded in one season.

And yet the same "people" are saying Minshew would be an improvement, yet his stats were worse. I think it's more a case the "people" i.e. posters are terrible at evaluating talent. Two years ago these same people were claiming Brown to be a bust

I must have missed it, when did Trubisky take any meaningful stats for the Bills that you were able to determine this? Minshew was mentioned as an improvement, funny when you look at their career stats, just about every one Trubisky is better than Minshew. The only one stat Minshew was slightly better at was int % and it was 2.5 vs 2.0. Everything else Trubisky was better for their careers. You even say Trubisky may be able to win a game or two. Why would any QB who views themselves better than being able to win a game or two want to even come to Buffalo when you know you have no chance of ever playing unless Allen gets hurt or its a blowout. You'd go to NY or Cleveland where you know the starting QB is on shaky ground and could easily get benched at some point and you're now the starter. Even if Allen had a horrendous game and Bills are getting blown out and was sat down by mid way through the 3rd quarter, the back up could come in and throw 5 TD' and lead the Bills to victory, but the next week Allen is starting if healthy. This is a 1st world country problem you're bringing up and don't even know that it's a problem or that there's a better reasonable solution out there.

So that leaves a WR group of Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Kirk, Palmer/Brown, and high draft pick rookie. Considering for the past few years the Bills have only carried 5 WR, means one of the above is being cut or traded. Based on the names above Samuel would likely be that guy, but it's a big cap hit to do that. Add to that they also have Kinkaid and Knox, and only one ball to go around. This would be a great lineup for fantasy football, but in the NFL actually have to think about what your roster will look like

How read it twice, thought it said Aaron Rodgers

I read the article too. Just to put it in perspective, Poona Ford was the 5th ranked DT too. I did wonder about the top ranked guy from the Eagles. Is he worth pursuing? To me you can get a top ranked DT for less money than and Edge rusher and while maybe not 100% as effective of a move, for the money a better value proposition?