Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I agree with the OP in that that it's much harder to find a franchise QB than it is to fail. I always laugh whenever I see these posts, Beane needs to get a franchise QB and if he can't find one, he should be fired. If it were that easy every team in the league would have one. In reality there are a half dozen or so true franchise guys and another 10 to 15 guys that are paid like top franchise guys, but struggle as they are making so much money , not enough cap space to pay enough other great players to keep on the team and the team is middle of the road. I do think TT needs to be replaced as there's just been too many terrible games and doubt he'll ever learn. I started out the season in the camp of keeping him and using all the picks to surround him with great talent, but have seen enough of his play to realize he's just terrible. So full am in favor of moving on, but do realize it's much riskier than many here seem to think and be prepared for potentially going backwards. I also feel the team has enough holes all around that wouldn't want to give up all the picks needed to move up to the top two picks. Unfortunately the team was a little too good this year that they are drafting too low to move up that far without giving away the farm to do so. Both Philly and LA seemed to have had move overall talent than the Bills did before getting their QB. So here too wouldn't mind seeing them fill other holes first. Something that I haven't seen mentioned at all would be the idea of taking one of the 1st round picks we have and trading to a team for next years (2019) 1st round pick and maybe pick up a another 2nd and/or 3rd for this year. That would allow more spots to be filled this year pick up a middle of the road vet for this year and potentially put off the high draft pick QB for another year. You could argue we'll likely again be middle of the road and would again take too much draft capital to move up, but if you picked up another 2nd and 3rd this year in a trade, plus our own 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, I wouldn't feel you'd need as many picks next year. The other argument against this I'm sure is this years group of QB's is much better. But even this year, in September this years class was talked about like it was the greatest ever. Now everyone of them has some question mark about them so likely the same will happen next season too.

At the beginning of the season the O-line struggled alot. By year end, they were playing much better, so not certain the issue there was just that it took some time for the players to catch on.

I'd really love to hear how you possibly could find enough time to develop 2 rookies and have an idea if either of them can play. I've read that the backup QB #2 guy gets like 6 snaps a week with the first team, #3 guy probably gets none. Even off season and training camp is so limited as the amount of time you can be on the field. While I've never heard specifics, but am sure even time spent in meetings is probably specified. You're not going to cut a 1st round draft pick after two seasons so even with little improvement, you wouldn't let him go yet and likely would give him a 3rd season. In one more year the guy who's hardly played contract only has one year left. It likely would also mean keeping three QB's on the active roster as you wouldn't want to go with a rookie in a game if your starter gets hurt so now tying up more roster spots on QB's. While I haven't completely given up hope on Petermann, based on his current resume, he may be the kind of guy you could cut the final week and bring him back as not likely to get picked up by anyone else, can't do that with a high pick QB. Keep seeing these posts, draft a QB every season, or draft two like this post. The only thing that will accomplish for certain is wasting one draft pick and if the one you do go with doesn't work out, you've now wasted two. There's just not enough time to do this effectively

What does amaze me is how you can totally change the words and still make it fit the music. Guess that means anyone can write lyrics?

Actually no. You are correct about the March 16th date. However where I was wrong I stated the NFL Off season started March 1st, it actually starts the 14th, so it is still a two day window.

When you take a team that went to the playoff and cut 49 players and keep 22, that is just ridiculous and can't be taken very seriously. Your cutting the 2nd round pick after one season. LOL

Sen a number of posts in past month or so about trading TT and what could you get for him. I don't follow this stuff as close as many, but tell me where I'm wrong. The trade deadline has long past so you can't trade him until the 2018 NFL season starts which I believe is March 1st. On the 3rd day of the 2018 NFL season, TT's bonus kicks in for is it $6 million?? So that means there's a two day window that you could trade him in before the bonus kicks in?? If we trade him after March 3rd, I'd assume the cap him would be larger due to paying him the bonus. Certainly you could "unofficially, off the books" work out a trade prior to March 1st, but why would anyone trade for him when you'd assume there's a real good change the Bills will cut him prior to paying the bonus. Am I missing something here, or way off base.

That's an easy one to answer, cause the OP is either an idiot, a troll or a 7 year old. Take your pick Smart way to run a team, draft rookie,s if they don't make the All Pro first year get rid of them, they're no good

Let them walk?? I don't recall the specifics of Goodwin was he a FA or did we we release him, but do know Woods was a FA so we didn't "let him walk" HE CHOSE to leave!! big difference. Supposedly it was rumored he wanted to go to a west coast team. Could we have grossly overpaid, made him a crazy offer, couple million more than LA did to keep him here? Probably could have, for a couple more million, maybe he would have given up on the West Coast. But are you actually suggesting that would have been a smart idea? IMO that would have been one of the dumbest ideas to do that. Amazing how many keep posting like we somehow encouraged Woods to leave. The way you win these days in the NFL is re-sign your stars, look at your marginal players (Woods was a member of this group) and decide if they are worth paying the going rate for, (assuming they will accept that) but even then only re-sign a portion of them as you very quickly will be in salary cap hell if you sign too many. Then replace the rest with cheaper rookies and other FA's

I do that look too, you are correct. With a little make-up.... you never know??

So why's the flight come from Detroit prior to leaving Buffalo to go to game? Only thing I can figure is Detroit is on of Delta's hub's so they keep spare aircraft there for charters??

Plus I doubt that would even be enough to jump that high. If we had maybe the 8th pick plus KC could get there with that.

I think Smith may be the smarter QB, just doesn't have all the physical skills of the great ones. Bledsoe had the skills, but struggled to make the right pass. But of all the QB's who struggled with the mental part of it, Bledsoe was still one of the better ones, but just not quite as good as say a Brady, Rodgers, Elway, etc. But do think Bledsoe was much better than Smith overall

Watkins had 3 seasons of either missing games due to injury or being very ineffective when he played. I've seen people argue he only missed 11 games in three seasons and 8 were in 2016. OK that's fine, but how many other games did he do nothing and the thought was that was due to him playing nicked up. People can't have it both ways with Watkins, either was was always hurt, or he must have really just sucked as so many games that he did play in, he did pretty much nothing. Matthews on the other hand, when he was traded top Buffalo, one of the comments I read was that he never missed any games due to injury. Looking at his career stats shows him only playing 14 games in 2016, looks like he missed the first and last game due to injury, but that was it. So the Bills traded for a guy who only missed two games over carer for injury, he comes here, has been banged up all year and your blaming that on the Bills, they should have somehow known. As far as Sammy playing all year. I've said that since September. He will likely play all year even if nicked up as this a contract year. I'm convinced too if he had been with the Bills all year he also would have played through any minor nicks this year. Trouble was while he played all season, didn't put up any great numbers 39 receptions for 593 yards, that's probably his worse year on a per game average.

But Woods left as a FA, rumor was he wanted to go t oa west coast team so not likely we could have signed him unless grossly overpaid for him. So can't fault the Bills for losing him. Watkins will be interesting based on his comments about wanting NBA type money, etc. While I agree with most comments here about him getting middle of the road type money, does Watkins get that or is he going to be holding out for OBJ type money as he feels he's worth that. Actually Beckham's contract will also be interesting as another guy who has some baggage. It also will be interesting to see how hard the Rams go after him. Or will a year of seeing him up close every day make them realize he's not worth it. If the Rams do let him walk, it's rather telling that the Bills did make the right move in dumping him when they could.

Not surprising as don't believe Jax has a large number of season ticket holders to start with. So many more tickets likely on sale for this game compared to others. I live in NC and was at the Panthers game in Sept, Many Panther fans were complaining about how many season ticket holders sold their tickets to Bills fans. While that can happen in the regular season, not likely to happen post season as the season ticket holder will mostly all go to a playoff game. But here in Jax, don't think there's enough season ticket holders to start with.

How many teams can have their starting QB get knocked out and even make the playoffs? How'd Green Bay do this year without Rodgers?

I don't know, I think it's Bellichick who's the brains of the outfit. He was even able to win with Matt Cassell the year Brady was hurt.

Well if they flipped the games, then the Steelers would get the advantage. Why shouldn't the team that has the best record get the advantage. The likely outcome is the winner of the KC game which is being played on Saturday will go to NE anyway so makes sense to me in how they scheduled it.

Somewhere back on the first page or two of this thread or other similar threads at the time, there's a couple of posts from me, complaining about the $3 charge. Not so much that they are charging, but the basic concept, seemed to me they'd make more money making the sites/pages/links all free, but have ad's on them. Since then have read enough articles that have shown me they do make more money charging a subscription price than they would through ads. So if that's the case, then have no problem with them charging and up to people to decide if they want to buy or not. As far as charging for what use to be free. 30 years ago it wasn't free, you needed to buy the newspaper. Now yes there is much free content available, but often from TV and radio outlets which really aren't directly competing with written content, so easier for them to give it away as may even drive people to watch their programming.

Kind of funny, they only have one more win than we do and won the division with ten wins, and had a relatively weak division overall, but yet they appear to be a much stronger team than we are. The first half of the season BB played like he did last season, but the past 5 or 6 weeks, he has looked very good, good enough that Jax may not even go after a QB in the off-season. Two big strengths their defense and Fournette which is something we've struggled most of the year to stop.

Likely you'll see in the off-season he gains about 20 pounds of muscle. Last few weeks he faded even more, but also may have been due to hitting the rookie wall. Playing six months straight at a much more intense level every day is more than you see in college.

Schottenheimer was 4 times?? wow just looked up the teams, forgot about a couple of them.

Yup that worked thanks!

Maybe, or maybe not, lots of guys have failed with multiple teams. DelRio is the latest, Fox has been fired 3 times now as HC. That likely ties some record, as don't think anyone has been fired 4 times??