Now that the dust has settled on the T.O. pick up

[macaroni]

When we picked up T.O. I thought it was a GREAT pick up by the Bills, now that the dust has settled, I've decided to not drink the Kool-aid.

 

Getting T.O. was a brillient Marketing decision. He generated interest in a fan base that was about to revolt and re-energized season ticket sales. No doubt jersey sales will sky rocket. He really got the media "Talking Bills" and any publicity at this point in the season is good advertisement. ..... BUT

 

IMHO picking up T.O. was a pretty dog doo-doo football decision. For it to be a good football decision it should have been a move to get us in the playoffs, set us up to go deep into the playoffs in the near future, and ultimatly to get int and win the super bowl.

 

Bottom line is, when we picked up T.O. we needed to (in a football sense) do these things in order of priority;

Get a Left Guard

Resign our Left Tackle (or get a new one)

Get a pass rush

Get a TE that we can use as a weapon

Get an OLB

Get a viable #2 WR to take some heat from Evens

 

What we ended up doing is;

renting T.O. for one year.

 

While I agree that T.O. will make our recieving corps better ...... so what.

Does it get us closer to the play offs?

No

Will he be around next year?

No

Will this move put butts in the seats and dollars in the Bills pocket?

You betcha

 

So like I said ..... I'm not impressed ....... standing with my arms crossed waiting on the draft, but I have little or no hope we can fill our needs on draft day.

[BuffaloWings]

Don't get too uptight about it just yet....I can't stand the guy's antics or attitude, either, but once you realize that it's a pure marketing move that is somewhat low-risk, you'll get over it.

 

Yes, they need to better the OL. Yes, they need a DE. Yes, they need a tight end. Yes, they could use an OLB. There's still time during the offseason - the draft hasn't even happened yet, so who knows what players they can get or what trades could be made leading up to draft day.

 

I'm not rushing to pre-order my TO jersey and there's a snowball's chance in Miami that I actually will. But let's see what he can do and how the offense can be improved. I'm cautiously optimistic, but if he pulls any stupid stunts, he can be dumped w/o much penalty and his career may very well be over.

[The Dean]

So your criticizing the TO move for what it isn't?

 

The Bills were in the market for a vet WR. They looked at Coles (who wouldn't take $6 mil) and Galloway. Would you feel better with one of them, instead of TO?

 

This deal is what it is. Feel free to complain about what the Bills have yet to accomplish, this offseason, but I'm not sure why you choose to blame the TO deal for those shortcomings.

[lets_go_bills]

It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day.

 

It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster.

[BuffaloWings]

It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day.

 

It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster.

Not only stagnant, but I thought they were actually declining.

[macaroni]

So your criticizing the TO move for what it isn't?

 

The Bills were in the market for a vet WR. They looked at Coles (who wouldn't take $6 mil) and Galloway. Would you feel better with one of them, instead of TO?

 

This deal is what it is. Feel free to complain about what the Bills have yet to accomplish, this offseason, but I'm not sure why you choose to blame the TO deal for those shortcomings.

 

 

I'm not exactly criicizing the T.O. deal ..... just needed a LAMP post to voice my initial euphoria over the deal and most recient realization that we aren't making the team better ..... we are just marketing the team for this year.

 

As far as the Coles and Galloway stuff ..... (and I think neither one can carry T.O.s jock as far as talent level goes) .... if the front office felt they would help at WR, we could have gotten either for long term rather than renting T.O. for one year, and still have gotten some help in a higher area of need.

[nucci]

Dust has settled.....drink the kool-aid..... Can you add a few more cliches, please?

[macaroni]

It worked from a business standpoint. Jersey sales and the revival of stagnant season ticket sales. One year deal, low risk because he wants one more pay day.

 

It'll either work incredibly well or be an utter disaster.

 

 

Like I said ...... brillient marketing move

[Fezmid]

Like I said ...... brillient marketing move

So by your own admission, there were 6 things you felt the Bills needed to do this offseason in order to try making the playoffs... They've now addressed 17% of the puzzle with many months to go before the season starts (including an entire draft), and you're complaining....?

[macaroni]

Dust has settled.....drink the kool-aid..... Can you add a few more cliches, please?

 

We have to take this FA period one signing at a time.

 

It's hard to win in the FA signing period.

 

The FA period is won in the trenches.

 

What we need is a "high motor" front office.

 

FA period is a game of inches.

 

Free Agents can nickle and dime you to death.

 

Need more?????

[atlbillsfan1975]

Heard of the Draft? You can probably address many of your problems in the first three rounds. Also the Bills have talent on the team that might be ready to step up this year. Ellis was a 3rd rounder last year who maybe is developing. The coaches know that better then us.Bell is another guy the Bills might like as one of the guys to step up and play Oline this year. If i remember correct he is on the same course Peters was. I guess i am not yet in panick mode. I think the team may/may not be totally done in FA. But there is no denyiny they have left some holes that must be addressed. The draft and whats already in the system just might be how they are going to fill those holes.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Does jersey sales and ticket sales go towards cap money for next season? If so, signing TO was a good idea

[nucci]

We have to take this FA period one signing at a time.

 

It's hard to win in the FA signing period.

 

The FA period is won in the trenches.

 

What we need is a "high motor" front office.

 

FA period is a game of inches.

 

Free Agents can nickle and dime you to death.

 

Need more?????

That's a start.

[kishoph]

I see nothing wrong with using T.O. to help promote the team, he's gonna help this team. . The smart fan knows that T.O. being on the BILLS could mean more wins, not just because of his play, but how having him on the field should help those around him be more productive. No longer will EVANS see constant double teams or the teams best corner every play. The 3rd and 4th recievers will also have weaker coverages. The TE's may start seeing some LB's instead of safteys covering them. Teams will not be so quick to put 8 in the box to stop the run any longer. LYNCH and JACKSON should have more running room.

 

Then there is T.O.'s attitude on and off the field. I see this as a plus. Last year this was a team of Zombies, it will be nice to see someone that does not like to lose, and knows how to win. His experience can be huge in teaching younger recievers. They'll be able to learn just from watching him. Then there's his training and practice habbits. T.O. is in great shape, hopefully this will also rub off on other players.

The pluses far outweigh the negatives for having T.O. on the team. He may have an ego and does call peoople out at times. There's nothing wrong with holding players accountable for their poor play. I wish we could have another 4 - 5 T.O.'s on the team, maybe winning would come more frequently.

 

Ticket sales have gone up because the fans know that the BILLS chances of winning are increased with T.O. on the field

[macaroni]

Heard of the Draft?

 

 

Yep I've heard of it

 

Starting Left Guard

Quality pass rushing DE

Starting OLB

Starting pass catching TE

 

oh yeah

 

Stroud could use some help at DT

Interior O-line depth needs some help

 

A bit much to ask from this years draft dontcha' think?

 

(and for nucci ..... a free agent in time saves nine)

[billsfreak]

As more dust settles even more people will begin seeing the light of day and the negative possibiilties of this signing. Sure it was nothing more than a tactic to sell the lost season tickets from last season. But I have been against this move from the day that it was being talked about on these boards, maybe 3 or 4 days before it happened. I would never question his physical abilities, but he has destroyed his last seasons of all 3 teams he as played on before Buffalo, so why would we be different? Every penny of his money is guaranteed, so he has nothing monetarily to lose if he acts up and throws Trent or DJ under the bus, like he will if he is here long enough. I am with every true Bills fan out there, hoping this move is the piece we need to become competitive again, but I will have the skin color as Barney the Dinosaur holding my breath every time Trent doesn't go his way or over/under throws him. I will be routing for him and cheering him on because of the jersey and the Buffalo on his helmet not because of who he is, because he is a self-centered *ss, but anything he does won't surprise me even a little bit.

[The Dean]

Every penny of his money is guaranteed, so he has nothing monetarily to lose if he acts up and throws Trent or DJ under the bus

 

 

Are you serious? Do you think TO wants this to be his last year in the NFL? TO has his the rest of his career (however long that might be) at stake, this year. And $6.5 Million, is a drop in the bucket he hopes to cash in on, when the season is over.

 

TO has far more to lose in this, than the Bills, who have nothing more than a little cash, on the line.

[dave mcbride]

Yep I've heard of it

 

Starting Left Guard

Quality pass rushing DE

Starting OLB

Starting pass catching TE

 

oh yeah

 

Stroud could use some help at DT

Interior O-line depth needs some help

 

A bit much to ask from this years draft dontcha' think?

 

(and for nucci ..... a free agent in time saves nine)

If you think a left guard - an easier position than RG, according to Ross Tucker - does more for an offense than an offense than a player like TO, you're crazy. Of course, you don't want someone crappy playing the position, but that's about the easiest position to plug a guy into.

[BillsBum11]

TO will help us a lot offensively, therefore will help us make the playoffs. As i see it, i think he will help out the running game a lot, as 8 in the box is something defenses wont try with him and evans split wide. Hes also a huge read zone threat, probably the best red zone threat at WR in the league outside moss. He makes our team better without a doubt.

[Peace Frog]

Has it occurred to anyone that maybe most players don't want to come play for Buffalo?

[macaroni]

If you think a left guard - an easier position than RG, according to Ross Tucker - does more for an offense than an offense than a player like TO, you're crazy. Of course, you don't want someone crappy playing the position, but that's about the easiest position to plug a guy into.

 

 

I agree with what you are saying .....

 

but my point is, at this point in time we have nobody playing LG ..... so we have to draft one. When we talk about all of our other needs the round we go after a LG drops lower and lower until we are left drafting somebody that isn't an upgrade to what we already have on the team ........ and keep in mind ...... the people we have on the team were not good enough to beat out Dockery

[billybob]

Let the Bill's be interesting now- who knows if Buffalo has a team in 2010- If the Bills are here who knows if fans will have the money to see them.

[Mr. WEO]

So your criticizing the TO move for what it isn't?

 

The Bills were in the market for a vet WR. They looked at Coles (who wouldn't take $6 mil) and Galloway. Would you feel better with one of them, instead of TO?

 

This deal is what it is. Feel free to complain about what the Bills have yet to accomplish, this offseason, but I'm not sure why you choose to blame the TO deal for those shortcomings.

 

Boldin

[The Dean]

Boldin

 

 

The Bills were not looking at a TRADE for a WR. While I'd love to see Boldin in a Bills uni, he would have cost players and/or draft picks, either of which could cause as many problems as the addition of a WR might fix.

 

But, again, that would be criticizing the TO trade for what it isn't, instead of for what it is. The Bills were actively looking for a veteran WR to function for a short while, while they developed their draftees from last year. How is TO a bad choice to implement that strategy?

[John from Riverside]

I actually am in agreement with mac here......

 

- At first I hated the move because TO literally could cause our team chaos....then I realized that WTF does it matter we haven't been making the playoffs lately anyway....then I was excited because I thought it might have been a sign that the team really wanted to take chances and try to win......

 

Now I am back to "well it seemed to sell tickets" and now what will end up happening is if we dont win (because the team didn't improve" then TO will end up being that distraction because we are losing......in what could have been a positive move it could actually end up hurting the team even worse.

 

Guys like Cato June, Kendall Simmosn....or Mike Goff.........guys that that should already been signed so we dont have as many holes going into the draft......wich we could pick up a pass rusher, a tight end, and another quality offensive/defensive linemen

 

If we are really going to rely on the draft only to improve this team.....we need to accumulate more picks.......

[The Avenger]

This is what I said when the deal went down and I got blasted by euphoric T.O. fans who continually told me there was no downside to the deal. While that's probably the case, it might not be. But even if there is no downside, I don't love the deal from a football perspective. T.O. does NOT solve enough of our problems to get us to the playoffs and the bottom line to me is that's where we need to be in late December. I don't give a rat's a$$ if we win 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 games next season - if we don't make the playoffs it doesn't mean anything. Seriously - is anyone going to be happy with 9 wins and the opportunity to watch other teams play in January? It won't be any different than the past decade.

 

Great marketing move - kudos to the Bills for getting what they can. Is it surprising at all that the front office is run by marketing guys and not football guys? This move IS the front office...

[Mr. WEO]

The Bills were not looking at a TRADE for a WR. While I'd love to see Boldin in a Bills uni, he would have cost players and/or draft picks, either of which could cause as many problems as the addition of a WR might fix.

 

But, again, that would be criticizing the TO trade for what it isn't, instead of for what it is. The Bills were actively looking for a veteran WR to function for a short while, while they developed their draftees from last year. How is TO a bad choice to implement that strategy?

 

Yeah, I know, but why not plan for the future (TO's horizon is about 2 more seasons, max--he will be 36 this season)? I would venture that Boldin would be far more valuable then a LB or DE as #11 pick. In fact you could put the league's best LB on the Bills right now (pick one) and not much is going to change--certainly not for the offense. Since 1999, 7 of our 11 first round draft picks don't even play for the team anymore (I'm throwing in McCargo) and 2 of the remaining 4 are DB's. Really, is our 1st rounder really going to have that much more impact than our 2nd round pick? Wouldn't you take Boldin for our first round pick and then some? If a great WR veteran is what this offense needs, don't they need him for more than 1 year?

 

Boldin and Evans are both 28. Together for the next 4, 5 years? No?

 

How is TO a good choice to help develop the rookies from last year? Is he going to run patterns to draw coverage away from Hardy? Come on! When has this guy ever thought about someone else's touches--let alone some spastic rook, before his own?

 

If TO was truly worried about his financial future he would have acted like a man; he would still be on the Cowboys--not in Buffalo "auditioning" for a new contract next year.

 

Trading for Boldin would have been a bold move forward. Picking up TO is "what it is"--a desperate stab at.......something--hoping that a flash in the pan year will soothe the angry mob for a little while.

[Magox]

There is no doubt, that by adding T.O, he has changed the whole dynamic of our offense in a positive manner. We've all ready gone through on how he changes how defenses have to defend us both on the run and pass.

 

Aside from that, We do have two glaring issues that I would hope we would address through FA. The guard and LB position.

 

There are a few guards in the this year's draft that I believe could have an immediate positive impact for our offense, but I still would like to see either Goff, Simmons or even more so a possible trade for Waters. Maybe Parrish and a 4th would do the trick.

 

As far as LB is concerned, unless the Bills believe that Digiorgio or Bowen can do the job, then I would much rather pick up an inexpensive option like a Freddy Keiaho. It just makes sense to me instead of using one of our valuable early round draft choices on filling that need.

[PushthePile]

Yeah, I know, but why not plan for the future (TO's horizon is about 2 more seasons, max--he will be 36 this season)? I would venture that Boldin would be far more valuable then a LB or DE as #11 pick. In fact you could put the league's best LB on the Bills right now (pick one) and not much is going to change--certainly not for the offense. Since 1999, 7 of our 11 first round draft picks don't even play for the team anymore (I'm throwing in McCargo) and 2 of the remaining 4 are DB's. Really, is our 1st rounder really going to have that much more impact than our 2nd round pick? Wouldn't you take Boldin for our first round pick and then some? If a great WR veteran is what this offense needs, don't they need him for more than 1 year?

 

Boldin and Evans are both 28. Together for the next 4, 5 years? No?

 

How is TO a good choice to help develop the rookies from last year? Is he going to run patterns to draw coverage away from Hardy? Come on! When has this guy ever thought about someone else's touches--let alone some spastic rook, before his own?

 

If TO was truly worried about his financial future he would have acted like a man; he would still be on the Cowboys--not in Buffalo "auditioning" for a new contract next year.

 

Trading for Boldin would have been a bold move forward. Picking up TO is "what it is"--a desperate stab at.......something--hoping that a flash in the pan year will soothe the angry mob for a little while.

I don't think the Cardinals are interested in trading Boldin. They have repeatedly said that they want him back and I'll be suprised if they don't find a way to make it happen. You can't blame the Bills for not making the impossible happen, especially since the whole league probably wants him. The Boldin trade hopes really shouldn't have anything to do with the TO aquisition.

[The Dean]

I don't think the Cardinals are interested in trading Boldin. They have repeatedly said that they want him back and I'll be suprised if they don't find a way to make it happen. You can't blame the Bills for not making the impossible happen, especially since the whole league probably wants him. The Boldin trade hopes really shouldn't have anything to do with the TO aquisition.

 

 

Which has been, and remains, my point. Given what the Bills were interested in doing, I believe it was a terrific move.

 

Now, if you want to argue the Bills should be interested in doing different things...that's a different discussion.

 

As to WEO's take that a Boldin does more for this team, this year, than Owens and an elite DE, I say "balderdash!". And, as for the future, I believe: 1. The Bills need to make a couple of moves for NOW, at this stage of the game. 2. I think the Bills think more of the future of Hardy and Johnson than some here.

[atlbillsfan1975]

Before the days of FA teams built through the draft. And then Trades. This years draft has a lot of guys in areas the Bills need help. DE, Interior Olinemen, and LBs. T.E to me is an issue i dont think/hope the bills address in FA or in the draft. I personally think you have very good/great WRs in Evans and Owens. These two guys will stretch the field and command attention.This will leave Reed and Fine open underneath. I know Fine/Reed aren't going to catch a seem route and go for 50 yds. But they will be free to p/u 7-10yds. I also like to see how Steve Johnson progress' this year. Owens is going to help this offense a lot. The Bills just need to address the LG spot in the second or third. In the First go defense. Sorry but dont see the glum and doom of the Owens signing.

[BLZFAN4LIFE]

This is what I said when the deal went down and I got blasted by euphoric T.O. fans who continually told me there was no downside to the deal. While that's probably the case, it might not be. But even if there is no downside, I don't love the deal from a football perspective. T.O. does NOT solve enough of our problems to get us to the playoffs and the bottom line to me is that's where we need to be in late December. I don't give a rat's a$$ if we win 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 games next season - if we don't make the playoffs it doesn't mean anything. Seriously - is anyone going to be happy with 9 wins and the opportunity to watch other teams play in January? It won't be any different than the past decade.

 

Great marketing move - kudos to the Bills for getting what they can. Is it surprising at all that the front office is run by marketing guys and not football guys? This move IS the front office...

 

 

BINGO! Macaroni got the ball rolling and you hit it out of the park. The T.O. signing, as it turns out, is merely shoe polish on a turd. This front office has not put the team in a position to compete for the division championship, they have only improved their chances of selling merchandise and tickets.

[Da Big Man]

BINGO! Macaroni got the ball rolling and you hit it out of the park. The T.O. signing, as it turns out, is merely shoe polish on a turd. This front office has not put the team in a position to compete for the division championship, they have only improved their chances of selling merchandise and tickets.

Yep! I agree. The Bills have only done exactly that, put asses in the seats.If they are not going to compliment TO on offense then they must get a couple studs on defense...and they won't. I, for one, have the wait and see attitude.

[Buftex]

I am not a big fan of the TO move at all. Not because the guy is a jerk. And, I have no doubt that he will make the offense better. However, I think, unless the Bills make the playoffs, the move is just window dressing. And honestly, I think, given how the team has addressed other issues (and they have a lot to address), we may have a more exciting team to watch, but I don't think, ultimately, they are a lot better than what they were last year. They (or we) can't bank on a draft pick to come in and make a huge impact, so the Bills are looking at free agents as their source of improvement.

 

Like I have said in other posts, if the Bills were serious about winning, and they felt the WR position was their greatest priority, I think they could have, at least tried, to land a more long term solution to their problem than Owens. Anquan Boldin (at this point a better receiver than TO, IMO) can still be had, by a team serious enough to want to make a commitment to improving, long term, at that position. There were other guys out there, than just Coles or Galloway.

 

I realize, there is the potential, still, to sign more free agents, and that some valuable players could be cut in the coming weeks, as salary cap casualties. So, I hold out some hope that the Bills aren't done shopping. If they are, it could be another very long season.

 

Call me nuts, cynical, or whatever, but I have a little theory about the Owens signing:

 

Our owner, who I think is cheap (I will duck), knew that he had to make some sort of a splash this offseason. This became an even higher priority when that owner was chosen to the Hall of Fame. Lets' face it, Ralph has been called to the carpet, more so, in the last year, than almost ever. I realize he has always had detractors amongst the Bills faithful (I have been one), but it his reputation as being a miserly, bumbling old fool has gained some national prominence in the last year or two, amongst NFL followers. Ralph has been taking criticism from everyone who follows the NFL. Some of it is way off base, but some is valid. Many national media types scrathced their heads over the whole Dick "did he or didn't he"

Jauron thing in regards to his contract. The way that it was "announced" was sort of sheepish, because there wasn't a lot of justification for bringing DJ back, other than dollars.

 

When Ralph knew he was being inducted this summer, and that his team was going to appear in the first nationally televised pre-season game of the 2009 season, I think, he wanted to insure that his detractors weren't being too loud. The signing of Owens, given the sports media's fixation with things like Owens, will take some of the glare off this franchise, and maybe, Ralph hopes, will mask just how poorly it is being run right now. I am sure he envisions Canton being a sea of Bruce Smith and Terrell Owens jerseys. Terrell Owens will be the segueway out of any touchy subjects. Why Jauron, is the team moving to Toronto, etc etc... "We signed TO!!!!"

 

Just my two cents...

[The Dean]

I am not a big fan of the TO move at all. Not because the guy is a jerk...

 

 

I have little doubt that marketing played a role in the signing of TO. If not for the recent playoff dry spell, and the real potential for declining ticket sales this season, the Bills may not have had the stones to sign TO.

 

But, in that case, they would have signed someone like Coles or Galloway. So, given that choice, I'm glad they chose this "publicity stunt". The thing you need to realize is, THAT was the option, here. TO or Coles...and Coles didn't want to come. I simply can't believe the TO signing isn't being looked upon in that light.

 

And, I'm not sure how old you are, but Wilson has been reviled much worse than the criticism he took last year. In the years before Kelly, when the Bills were horrid, and the fans weren't as afraid of losing the team, they relentlessly bashed Ralph.

[VOR]

Sorry but adding a guy who had 69 receptions for 1,052 yards and 10 TD's, while his QB (the only competent one on the roster) missed 3 games is NOT a marketing move. That was just a side benefit.

 

And the move wasn't supposed to be THE only move to put them over the top and get them to the playoffs. They signed a center they feel will be a good one. The only other options were someone overpriced (Brown), highly overrated (Groves), and who only wanted to play for 2 teams (Birk). But still, it was a move the Bills felt would improve them.

 

At LG, Goff, Simmons, and Bentley are still out there. The closer to the draft we get, the less their market value becomes. So don't be surprised if one is signed sooner rather than later.

 

The same goes for LB. June and Keiaho have no other offers. And a signing of one of them is probably going to happen sooner rather than later as well.

 

The draft will be about adding line, LB, and TE help.

[Buftex]

And, I'm not sure how old you are, but Wilson has been reviled much worse than the criticism he took last year. In the years before Kelly, when the Bills were horrid, and the fans weren't as afraid of losing the team, they relentlessly bashed Ralph.

 

 

I am 44 today. I realize that Wilson has always been bashed by a certain segment of Bills followers. My father has been bad mouthing Ralph since Rich Stadium was built. But, with the internet, and sports talk radio, as prevalent as they are these days, as say it was 10 years ago, and thousands of "bloggers" having to have something to write about, I guarantee, more people across the country are aware of Ralph than they were in the 1980's. I don't believe for a second that franchises try to gauge the temperament of public opinion, as it applies to them. The Bills are no different. The Super Bowl run kind of erased a lot of that...

 

I will agree that Terrell Owens is a better player than some of the other options, even at 36. My main gripe is that it is very short term, at a time when there were two very good options (Houshmanzadah and Boldin), that, to me anyways, would go go a much longer way toward convincing me that the Bills are serious about winning football games for the next 5 years or so.

[Flbillsfan#1]

I am 44 today. I realize that Wilson has always been bashed by a certain segment of Bills followers. My father has been bad mouthing Ralph since Rich Stadium was built. But, with the internet, and sports talk radio, as prevalent as they are these days, as say it was 10 years ago, and thousands of "bloggers" having to have something to write about, I guarantee, more people across the country are aware of Ralph than they were in the 1980's. I don't believe for a second that franchises try to gauge the temperament of public opinion, as it applies to them. The Bills are no different. The Super Bowl run kind of erased a lot of that...

 

I will agree that Terrell Owens is a better player than some of the other options, even at 36. My main gripe is that it is very short term, at a time when there were two very good options (Houshmanzadah and Boldin), that, to me anyways, would go go a much longer way toward convincing me that the Bills are serious about winning football games for the next 5 years or so.

Bolden is not & NEVER was an option. He is UNDER CONTRACT for 2 years with the Birds just like Peters is with Buffalo. I think the TO signing was a fantastic move. If Edwards gets the ball to him, TO will SCORE. With a few more pieces the Bills could make the playoffs in 09, they looked like they would make it last year for half the season. If nothing else TO puts people in the stands & makes things INTERESTING. That can not be a bad thing.

[Kelly the Dog]

Scoring touchdowns and playing with a lead is one of the absolute best things you can do to help your pass rush.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

Most of the cases against T.O. here are ridiculous. How does the fact that we have holes at LG and LB make T.O. a bad signing? I really don't see that logic. You should be criticizing them for not adding more signings in addition to Owens, not for the Owens signing itself.