Coaching is the key!

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, Success said:

We don't talk about this enough:

 

Why do most other teams have experienced coordinators - but we "promote from within?"

 

I don't mind McDermott as a culture guy & HC, IF we had legit, experienced & proven coordinators.  This is completely malpractice w/ a contending team.  I don't know why we think it's "better."

 

Outsiders don't know how to be Billsy.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He made a mistake firing McDermott.   That's CLEARLY the point.

 

No he didn't,that is the point.

 

One is a multi time SB coach, the others terrible scheme is whe we dont get to a superbowl.

[Bruffalo]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Extremely well said. They’ve completely run out of ideas at this point. Those of you thinking the current regime is going to suddenly wake up and install a completely different strategy are kidding yourselves. It ain’t gonna happen. Coaches get entrenched in what they do and they’re extremely reluctant to change. They’re no different than any of us are at our jobs. I cannot tell you how many years I gave really good employees advice at their annual review only to find myself saying the exact same thing the very next year. It’s normal. 

Thanks, you're making a really good point there as well.  It takes a certain level of ego and arrogance to be a coach at that level, you have to believe that your scheme and installment of that scheme is the right decision. There's no room for doubt in high pressure situations. 

 

The likelihood that they will make a 180 and be introspective on their decision tree is hard for me to believe, and that's okay. Maybe with a slightly different personnel and a slightly different opponent you would have gotten the job done and won a SB.  That's not the way the chips fell though.

 

I'm not even mad. Frustrated, sure, but I appreciate what they've done for the Bills. No hard feelings, but let's make a change.  

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, Success said:

We don't talk about this enough:

 

Why do most other teams have experienced coordinators - but we "promote from within?"

 

I don't mind McDermott as a culture guy & HC, IF we had legit, experienced & proven coordinators.  This is completely malpractice w/ a contending team.  I don't know why we think it's "better."

 

I really hate the fact that we don't have a normal NFL franchise hierarchy. What needs to happen is for Beane to force McDermott to get a whole new staff, like what Roseman did to Sirianni before the 2024 season. Before that, we was calling offensive plays and the DC was an internal hire. But because the HC is above the GM in the organizational hierarchy, who is going to force any changes? Who would fire him, for that matter? Pegula? He doesn't seem to care.

[RunTheBall]

Watching most of the other games today, it is so obvious how bad our coaching is compared to other teams, and I include McD in that. Brady is god awful and needs to be fired. He had a scheme that worked last year and made no adjustments to it this year. He just ran the exact same scheme back and has no ability to adjust during the game. I can think of 8 OCs that I watched today that Brady isn’t even in the same galaxy as, and that includes some that lost. It’s one thing if the scheme is sound and the players don’t execute. Our problem is that the scheme doesn’t work, teams know EXACTLY what we are doing, and our entire offense is based on Josh making Super Josh off script plays. 

 

We need a complete house cleaning from GM to water boy. It won’t happen. Pegula is just happy to be competitive, along with 90% of our team. I’m really sick of fkn Dawkins and his Shnowman crap. Calling out Keon then giving up on play after play and having the most false starts in the league. STFU until you actually start playing well you fat tub of goo.

 

 

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

It's a roster building problem if u ask me. 

 

Imagine we retained Mack hollins and also picked up George Pickens instead of Palmer and Moore. Imagine how much better this offense would be 

That is so prophetic. I just watched Pickens make an amazing catch against Philly.  And Hollins is a big cog in the Pats offense.  
 

it’s like Beane purposefully wants a trash roster.  Is he really this bad in talent evaluation and roster construction?  You got the QB.  You have a very good RB.  Yet you can’t find any impact receivers or defensive players.  (The NFL is a league of speed and athleticism.  And we draft Keon Coleman)  How is that possible?  Our D line gets no pass rush year after year.  Every team has guys that can rush the passer.  We have none. What are we doing?  We have no receivers and no studs on defense 

 

it is beyond frustrating. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

4 hours ago, r henderson said:

Keon Coleman is the most talented receiver on this team. If he was on any other team besides Seattle, he would be the number one or number two receiver, hands-down

😂😂😂

[Nuncha]

4 hours ago, r henderson said:

Sitting here watching the NFL Redzone of the teams that are playing today. It’s just amazing how well coached the Colts, Bears, Patriots and Seahawks are. Looking at the rosters we have just as much talent as all four of these teams. What is the difference? COACHING! As crazy as this might sound, but Keon Coleman is the most talented receiver on this team. If he was on any other team besides Seattle, he would be the number one or number two receiver, hands-down. Aside from all the bad draft picks this team has enough talent to be at minimum 9 and 2 at this point in the season. I know the best solution is to let the season play itself out, but we cannot roll out with the same management and coaching staff next year. This has been such a disappointing season. I feel for the fans who paid their hard earned money to see the product that McDermott and Beane has put out there. But most of all I feel so bad for Josh Allen. Generational quarterback, just being wasted. Please Terry make the move and stop this sinking ship! 

Colts are so well coached that they had a 3-point lead, the ball at the 50 with 5 minutes left and threw it twice, and one pass should have been intercepted had two Chief's not fought for the ball.  That was the dumbest crap I have ever seen.   18 yards of offense in the 4th quarter.  They handed KC the game.  Yep, that's well coached.

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, r henderson said:

Sitting here watching the NFL Redzone of the teams that are playing today. It’s just amazing how well coached the Colts, Bears, Patriots and Seahawks are. Looking at the rosters we have just as much talent as all four of these teams. What is the difference? COACHING! As crazy as this might sound, but Keon Coleman is the most talented receiver on this team. If he was on any other team besides Seattle, he would be the number one or number two receiver, hands-down. Aside from all the bad draft picks this team has enough talent to be at minimum 9 and 2 at this point in the season. I know the best solution is to let the season play itself out, but we cannot roll out with the same management and coaching staff next year. This has been such a disappointing season. I feel for the fans who paid their hard earned money to see the product that McDermott and Beane has put out there. But most of all I feel so bad for Josh Allen. Generational quarterback, just being wasted. Please Terry make the move and stop this sinking ship! 

 

Ben Johnson is doing some impressive coaching in Chicago.

 

That team is not great and they are 8-3.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No I am not. The OP claimed he'd be the #1 on all those teams he listed except Seattle. That's utter insanity.

Oh I see that now, I missed his comment about that.  Yeah that’s insane comment

[Psautcsk]

21 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

That is so prophetic. I just watched Pickens make an amazing catch against Philly.  And Hollins is a big cog in the Pats offense.  
 

it’s like Beane purposefully wants a trash roster.  Is he really this bad in talent evaluation and roster construction?  You got the QB.  You have a very good RB.  Yet you can’t find any impact receivers or defensive players.  (The NFL is a league of speed and athleticism.  And we draft Keon Coleman)  How is that possible?  Our D line gets no pass rush year after year.  Every team has guys that can rush the passer.  We have none. What are we doing?  We have no receivers and no studs on defense 

 

it is beyond frustrating. 

Pickens open across the middle - 9 catches -if we had just one like him.

[Since1981]

The question is: if Sean were unemployed, would any NFL team hire him as a head coach or defensive coordinator? I’m inclined to say no.

 

Coaches and GMs aren’t bound by the salary cap, so unlike players, teams can simply outbid or overpay for the right coach. It’s time to start recruiting.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

If we don't get a new OC and DC (who is actually better than Sean McDermott) then this team will start sinking faster than the Titanic. Joe Brady has 0 creativity, that hook & ladder play was the first time I've seen even a sign of life from him and it only came because of a 4th and 26 play. Babich was a solid choice in the offseason but I think we need a real DC who brings his own scheme to match the players we already have, I'm not sure if such a guy is going to be available but we're in deep ***** if we continue to run McDermotts (everyone scores) defense once again next year.

[Xwnyer]

3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Talent is the key. We don't have enough.

The GM and his scouts have failed us. But the HC has also with losses in AFC Championships and 13 seconds.   Time to move on find a young offensive minded guy with a DC like Schwartz 

[folz]

4 hours ago, r henderson said:

Sitting here watching the NFL Redzone of the teams that are playing today. It’s just amazing how well coached the Colts, Bears, Patriots and Seahawks are. Looking at the rosters we have just as much talent as all four of these teams. What is the difference? COACHING! As crazy as this might sound, but Keon Coleman is the most talented receiver on this team. If he was on any other team besides Seattle, he would be the number one or number two receiver, hands-down. Aside from all the bad draft picks this team has enough talent to be at minimum 9 and 2 at this point in the season. I know the best solution is to let the season play itself out, but we cannot roll out with the same management and coaching staff next year. This has been such a disappointing season. I feel for the fans who paid their hard earned money to see the product that McDermott and Beane has put out there. But most of all I feel so bad for Josh Allen. Generational quarterback, just being wasted. Please Terry make the move and stop this sinking ship! 

 

I'm not saying there aren't issues right now, but what if this team goes on a run and makes it to the Super Bowl? How will you feel about the coaching at that point? Will you still feel bad for the fans and their hard-earned money? It's a week-to-week league. Teams look great one week beating a tough opponent, only to lose to or just squeak by an inferior opponent the next week. That's the NFL now. So, it depends on which game/week you are watching as to how the coaching appears sometimes. 

 

I know we have been up-and-down of late, but Thursday night games always suck (teams are often off, always a lot of injuries, etc.). Plus, we were on a short week, on the road against the #1 defense in the league, and with a lot of injuries. I'm not excusing the loss, but I'm also not going to pretend like that is how we will look for the rest of the season against every other opponent.

 

And I know we have not reached the promised land yet, but I think you guys sometimes forget how hard it is to maintain success in this league, consistently, over a stretch of time (no matter who your QB is). Only the Bills and Chiefs have made the playoffs each of the last six seasons (K.C. is on a 10-year streak, Buffalo is at 6 years).

 

Only 10 teams in the history of the NFL made the playoffs more than 6 years in a row. And 6 of those 10 teams did it before free agency and the salary cap (most in the '70s and '80s, the Browns did it in the '40s and '50s).

 

There are a lot of changes and turnover, players aging out, cap and contracts, paying your QB big money, injuries, etc. over a 6-8 year period. It is not easy to remain in contention every year, even with a stud QB. I'm not saying that consistency is the be-all-end-all, but you have to give the management/coaching some credit for that at least. 

 

Interesting too that after hearing for a couple of years now that division titles don't matter, who cares about winning the division, it doesn't mean anything---that now many of those same people are whining that we are going to lose the division to the Pats. 

 

We are not going to miss the playoffs. One game season. Just beat Pitt on Sunday. If so, we are 2 games up on both Pitt and Balt, with a head-to-head victory over each. Chiefs don't have an easy road (Cowboys, Texans, Chargers up next). Houston still has to play the Colts twice, the Chiefs, and the Chargers. Jax still has Colts twice and the Broncos. Plus, some of those teams will be giving each other losses. Our season is not over...so yeah, let it play out.

 

[ganesh]

It is a mix of so many things. Unfair to pinpoint at only the coaches. 
 

too many injuries at key positions - Kincaid, Hoecht, Oliver, Brown 

cannot stop the run - no talent for that 

misjudged the play of Bernard and Rousseau to give them big contracts 

poor play by our WRs including Shakir 

poor decision making at critical times by Allen - unable to carry and win the game 

Caching. - bad play calls, unable to make adjustments to stop the run or the 3rd and longs 

poor special teams 

 

the list goes on and on.   In spite of that we are 7-4 

[Bruffalo]

41 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

The question is: if Sean were unemployed, would any NFL team hire him as a head coach or defensive coordinator? I’m inclined to say no.

 

Coaches and GMs aren’t bound by the salary cap, so unlike players, teams can simply outbid or overpay for the right coach. It’s time to start recruiting.

I just said we should move on but this is a crazy take.  He would get hired in a second, and rightfully so. 

 

He's just not the right coach for the Bills anymore. 

[Lionel Hutz]

2 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

After watching the All-22 breakdown seems to me Brady is the issue.  

Just like Dorsey was the issue? How many coordinators are gonna take the fall before you realize it's McDermott that is the issue?

[NeverOutNick]

6 hours ago, r henderson said:

Sitting here watching the NFL Redzone of the teams that are playing today. It’s just amazing how well coached the Colts, Bears, Patriots and Seahawks are. Looking at the rosters we have just as much talent as all four of these teams. What is the difference? COACHING! As crazy as this might sound, but Keon Coleman is the most talented receiver on this team. If he was on any other team besides Seattle, he would be the number one or number two receiver, hands-down. Aside from all the bad draft picks this team has enough talent to be at minimum 9 and 2 at this point in the season. I know the best solution is to let the season play itself out, but we cannot roll out with the same management and coaching staff next year. This has been such a disappointing season. I feel for the fans who paid their hard earned money to see the product that McDermott and Beane has put out there. But most of all I feel so bad for Josh Allen. Generational quarterback, just being wasted. Please Terry make the move and stop this sinking ship! 

I really like Shane Steichen. He did an amazing job with Hurts and that eagles offense and was the hands down best offensive coach on the market. After we got destroyed at home in the snow (we’re Buffalo! We’re supposed to destroy teams in that weather) by the bengals in the playoffs, a year after McD blew a lead with 13 seconds left to the chiefs it was time for Beane to march into Pegulas office and put his balls on the line for Josh and tell him that’s the guy we need to get this franchise and Josh Allen a Super Bowl. But Beane decided to dig his own grave as McDs patsy and here we are…

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

the colts and seattle had the same coaching staffs last year and missed the playoffs.

Well they're not gonna have that problem this year, are they 

1 hour ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Just like Dorsey was the issue? How many coordinators are gonna take the fall before you realize it's McDermott that is the issue?

Or the QB. That is, in fact, a possible problem too.

 

He's got godlike physical skills but sometimes he's not the brightest tool in the box if you catch my meaning