Tyrell Shavers reminds me of John Stallworth....

[Shaw66]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Honestly I am starting to think that Shavers is what they thought Coleman would be but isn't.

I don't. I think the Bills always saw in Shavers what some people are seeing in him now. They also saw that he had a lot to learn. Finally, they saw a guy who was willing to put in the time, work, and learn. He kept getting better every season. And he kept getting closer to making the roster.

 

I think what we're seeing is McDermott's patience with the guy paying off. 

 

What I really like is that Shavers, Palmer, and Davis present big targets to Josh, and I think Josh is comfortable throwing at those targets. He looked different yesterday. The touchdown to Shavers looked very much like several touchdowns. We saw Josh throw to Davis in earlier seasons.

[RiotAct]

13 hours ago, Psautcsk said:

I was really excited when Shavers caught a pass and had no one within 5 yards of him. He looked like receivers who get open on a majority of teams.

an exceedingly rare treat for the Bills!

Edited 14 hours ago by RiotAct

[Governor]

Alvin Harper

[SoonerBillsFan]

11 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Taylor Rapp reminded me of Ronnie Lott 😂😂

Ill take Chuck Cecil for 1000 Alex. 

[folz]

Not saying he'll become as good by any means, and I hadn't thought of it myself, but as soon as I read just the title of the thread, I instantly thought, oh yeah, I can totally see that comparison. Something about the way they run, move, catch. Good call OP.

 

 

45 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I liked how he played the ball on the touchdown catch. It wasn't a perfect throw but he had his eyes on the ball all the way and got his hands in a really good catching position. It was nicely done. It's the kind of play of professional pass catcher makes. That was encouraging. 

 

Last week someone said his his blocking is always good. It was interesting that on Johnson's touchdown catch, he followed the play all the way down the field and got in the way of the last possible tackler. That was just solid at football, doing your job.

 

And with coach saying, about Shavers, "No job too big or too small" for him...I wonder if that isn't a veiled reference as to why Keon is in the doghouse.

 

 

50 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I've seen different reports of shavers running 4.3 & 4.5

 

I also saw he ran 10.41 in the 100 meters. 

 

The eye test tells me he's a legitimate deep threat 

 

Shavers did not attend the NFL Draft combine. So, there are only two official times for him for the 40-yard dash.

At his pro day in college, he ran a 4.59.

When he was recruited out of high school, his official time in the 40-yard dash was 4.38.

 

Interesting that Stallworth had a similar situation with difference in timings. He was dealing with a hip pointer at the Combine and ran a 4.8 second 40-yard dash (in the rain). His only other known timing was by a Pittsburgh scout after his junior year of college, at which time Stallworth clocked a 4.5 second 40-yard dash.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is true but trust me the Tampa defensive backfield is a mess.

 

Yeah there are A LOT of people impressed with the Bills WR's yesterday but that is probably the worst pass defense they will face this season.   Secondary in disarray and no pass rush to help them.  When Dean went down Tampa was f#cked.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Shavers can 100% be a late bloomer who the light is clicking with Allen

 

He works hard , says the right things... Has size , deceptive speed... Run routes hard , works in scramble drill

 

He was a big prospect down in Texas back in the day ... Started at Alabama 

 

Obviously became more known for his special teams.. but his receiver ability was there... 

 

The adage goes it always takes two to tango... Maybe he finally got his dancing partner

Shavers ran a wind aided 4.38 in high school 

 

Was in the 4.5s pro day.. he does have good long speed

 

He is very similar to Gabe Davis in a lot of ways with perhaps better hands, although Davis has made some spectacular sideline catches during his times here.

Edited 13 hours ago by Big Turk

[Mark Vader]

5 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

My girlfriend told me I remind her of John Holmes. 

How old is your girlfriend?

[Mikie2times]

26 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

How old is your girlfriend?

Not old enough to know who John Holmes is....haha

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

I noticed he ran a slick little route against Miami last week too on the end zone interception.  It was just a bad ball by Allen.

 

That was a terrible route. Allen was waiting for him to get open along the backline but he got bullied all through the route and took way too long to get to his spot. Against cover 0 he needed to win and flash open within 2.5 seconds.

 

Let's not get too carried away about the WR room from one game. Tampa called a lot of cover 3 and Brady had the right calls in to beat them. I put this week's turnaround on his improvement much more than the WRs. Shavers' biggest completion (other than the 1 of a 1 throw on a scramble drill) came on seemingly a busted coverage. Samuel still has trouble reading the field and making route adjustments in real time. Hardman is too tiny to be a legit downfield threat. Palmer and Kincaid should be our top 2 targets, the rest of these guys are JAGs.

[Scott7975]

7 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's your opinion on this route here?

 

I feel like there's a legitimate deep threat here. 

 

I was reading unconfirmed stuff online that he's a 10.4 100 meter guy also ... 

 

 

 

 

Looked good. If Allen went to him and threw a good ball thats definitely a big play. He had a step. I dunno I trust it with the wind gusts. 

I dunno about the guy a couple posts above you saying he is not fast. He may not be Tyreek Hill but the dude is pretty fast.

Edited 12 hours ago by Scott7975

[Richard Noggin]

It's fine to make height/weight/traits-based comps, and some athletes do just resemble one another in appearance and just how they move...but wowza. The internet gives us all an immediate audience for our thoughts, doesn't it? (No disrespect intended to OP.)

[Kelly to Allen]

59 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

It's fine to make height/weight/traits-based comps, and some athletes do just resemble one another in appearance and just how they move...but wowza. The internet gives us all an immediate audience for our thoughts, doesn't it? (No disrespect intended to OP.)

 

Sorry I understand it's obviously hyperbole. It's probably disrespectful to Stallworth honestly.

 

I just think there's something special with Shavers. Probably not the best way to say it lol

 

I'm really excited about him tho. 

 

Looking back it's probably honestly a silly post by me. Overreacting to the passing game looking awesome 😎 

Edited 10 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[pennstate10]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Shavers can 100% be a late bloomer who the light is clicking with Allen

 

He works hard , says the right things... Has size , deceptive speed... Run routes hard , works in scramble drill

 

He was a big prospect down in Texas back in the day ... Started at Alabama 

 

Obviously became more known for his special teams.. but his receiver ability was there... 

 

The adage goes it always takes two to tango... Maybe he finally got his dancing partner

Shavers ran a wind aided 4.38 in high school 

 

Was in the 4.5s pro day.. he does have good long speed

 

[hondo in seattle]

5 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Shavers 4.3 Keon 4.6

 

 

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Shavers ran a 4.59 at his pro day at San Diego State.  He's not fast, though I suppose it's not a terrible time for a bigger-bodied guy (6'4", 211 lbs). 

 

Keon's a bit quicker but neither of these guys runs like a deer...

 

                        Shavers               Keon

40 yards            4.59                   4.61

10 yards             1.63                   1.54

 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

10 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Not old enough to know who John Holmes is....haha

She’s gotta know Ron Jeremy though, right?

[GunnerBill]

13 hours ago, Chaos said:

Samuel, Moore.  They will never get better. And  they don't produce much now.  Against Miami, I did not think Coleman even looked like a legit NFL player, let alone a WR1 or WR2.   However Coleman is only 21.  I don't know why he missed meetings, I don't know what is going on in his life.  A 24 year old in Dallas decided life wasn't worth living last week.  At 21 Coleman is eligible to improve. I probably hang on to him over some others. 

 

I thought WR2 was his absolute ceiling coming out of the draft. I am now pretty sure that is a ceiling he isn't reaching. He is at best a big slot. But the chances he totally busts out of the league are now pretty high. 

[quincy]

Shavers I think has now become the 3rd most important WR on the roster after Shakir and Palmer and will be on the 53 without a doubt for the rest of the year.

 

Before yesterday he was seemingly clustered with Samuel and Moore and potentially looking over his shoulder but his ST abilities plus a WR1 type stat line secures his status. I look forward to see what he can do against the Texans and the rest of the year.   

[LabattBlue]

Not only Stallworth but he also reminds me of that Jerry Rice guy.