Kirby Jackson Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, DJB said: Cover 1 says he will be a healthy scratch again Lol, let’s tag all of the people from earlier in the thread that will believe it when they see it. 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago What a mess! As this shakes out, it’s looking like a huge miss. Curious if there was any of this type of behavior at FSU? Rooting for the young man, but after a season and a half, I have serious doubts if he’ll ever be more than a WR4 at best. Again with where the Bills have been drafting you can’t keep missing like this. Beane and the scouting department have to be better! Quote
Andy1 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Coleman will need to learn from Shavers how to earn playing time. He needs a lesson in humility and learn discipline. He also needs to learn how to play WR. People can mature and change. He has great teammates around him. He might just grow up and become a better player but he better start showing it in practice. 3 Quote
DJB Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Here it is And honestly I don’t know how you put him back in after last weeks game. Who deserves to be pulled from the lineup? Not anyone I can see. Can’t be Samuel they play different roles. And we aren’t scratching Shavers what message would that send? Edited 12 hours ago by DJB Quote
SCBills Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Bills have Palmer and Shakir on multi-year deals. They have the rights to Shavers past this year. Id be willing to bet that if things go well with Gabe, he’s back next year. Thats 4 WR’s and we’re likely looking for another WR in the Draft, FA or trade to play meaningful snaps with them. Keon is looking like a guy who might just be emergency depth this year and then flipped for a 5th before the Draft. Im hopeful he can be something for us if/when called upon, but if he’s inactive again, he might only get back on the field as a Buffalo Bill due to injury. 3 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, philholbroo said: would have liked to see him vs stingley. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Everyone thought Kayshon Boutte was also a scrub before this season began too. Still think. Quote
stevewin Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: This has been going on behind the scenes for a while, Im guessing. Maybe hes only been late to 2 meetings, maybe more? Also possible they've seen him dogging it in games and up until now (with Gabe), didnt have a better option. At some point enough is enough. For Dion, McD to say what they've said - i think its quite clear there is more than we know. Also no one knows if this week's scratch might be related to something more that happened this week - maybe not being late but something as basic as his behavior, they don't feel his attitude has improved for whatever reason(s), etc Edited 12 hours ago by stevewin Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, DJB said: Here it is And honestly I don’t know how you put him back in after last weeks game. Who deserves to be pulled from the lineup? Not anyone I can see. Can’t be Samuel they play different roles. And we aren’t scratching Shavers what message would that send? Barring some injuries couldn't see how they went back after one week If this team is about culture... The only thing keon can do is put his head down and work hard for a couple weeks ... There had to be a message sent 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: I’d struggle with the decision to bring him from essentially WR1 by snap count to no jersey at all after a one game suspension for conduct. I know there are various roles and it’s not just plug and play 1-2-3-4-5-6…. but to go from 1 to like 7 instantly for on field performance feels like an indictment of his share immediately proceeding the discipline. it just feels very all or nothing? Like maybe we limit his reps for a stretch? I get what you're saying but... Brady uses different receiver packages. Some are designed to support the run game, others to stretch the field horizontally, or threaten vertically. Either Coleman is good enough to be on one or more of the personnel groupings, or he's not. If Brady decides he has other players who are better suited for his packages (looking at their individual speed, size, talent, preparation, effort), then Coleman sits. The calculus of these decisions has shifted. Shavers is proving himself as an all-around good guy. Recently signed Hardman brings speed. Palmer's healthy again. Gabe's on the field again. So where does that leave Keon? I don't think it's a matter of managing Coleman's snap count. I think it's a matter of seeing where he fits - or doesn't. Edited 10 hours ago by hondo in seattle 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago He won’t be active again and won’t play in the new stadium unless he’s a visitor. 2 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: He won’t be active again and won’t play in the new stadium unless he’s a visitor. Like he bought tickets to come watch Josh Allen Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) I'm not surprised at all. He sat out due to his own creation and others got a chance and stepped up. They put up 44 freakin points and we had space we hadn't seen all season in the passing game. Coleman was overdrafted that's for sure and not his fault, but at this point he has not done enough to have a hammerlock on a position. Edited 12 hours ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 3 1 Quote
QCity Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Unless there are some severe behavioral issues behind the scenes (quite possible) he isn't going anywhere. His rookie contract is really saving him here, as it costs more cap-wise to cut him than keep him. He'll likely be demoted to WR 4/5 with red zone usage unless he gets his act together. Although I'm dubious that the light bulb will click on for this guy. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I get what you're saying but... Brady uses different receiver packages. Some are designed to support the run game, others to stretch the field horizontally, or threaten vertically. Either Coleman is good enough to be on one or more of the personnel groupings, or he's not. If Brady decides he has other players who are better suited for his packages (looking at their individual speed, size, talent, preparation, effort), then Coleman sits. The calculus of these decisions has shifted. Shavers is proving himself as an all-around good guy. Recently signed Hardman brings speed. Palmer's healthy again. So where does that leave Keon? I don't think it's a matter of managing Coleman's snap count. I think it's a matter of seeing where he fits - or doesn't. I did acknowledge that it’s not simply ranking guys, in a nod to packages but my point still was that he went from being active in the most packages to unable to dress…. And maybe Palmer getting healthy plus Gabe truly does replace him in essentially every package I just think at some point if the guys underwater you start limiting packages and giving a few to others as both a wake up call but a chance to hone a specific craft or two in a Brady fan but it’s a strange transition. It’s rare to see a WR or DL so drastically shift their platooning Quote
SectionC3 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 11 minutes ago, stevewin said: Also no one knows if this week's scratch might be related to something more that happened this week - maybe not being late but something as basic as his behavior, they don't feel his attitude has improved for whatever reason(s), etc Why would they bring him back this week? Things worked well last week. Completely the wrong message to put him back in. Quote
Lionel Hutz Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Why was this new information merged with an old thread? Anyone browsing the main page won’t know this is about the Texans game since this thread was started before the Bucs game. 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said: Why was this new information merged with an old thread? Anyone browsing the main page won’t know this is about the Texans game since this thread was started before the Bucs game. The reports are that he's a healthy scratch this week again. Quote
SectionC3 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, SCBills said: Bills have Palmer and Shakir on multi-year deals. They have the rights to Shavers past this year. Id be willing to bet that if things go well with Gabe, he’s back next year. Thats 4 WR’s and we’re likely looking for another WR in the Draft, FA or trade to play meaningful snaps with them. Keon is looking like a guy who might just be emergency depth this year and then flipped for a 5th before the Draft. Im hopeful he can be something for us if/when called upon, but if he’s inactive again, he might only get back on the field as a Buffalo Bill due to injury. I completely agree with this, except I'd use the word "injuries" at the end instead. I can't seem him getting time over any two of Palmer, Davis, or Shavers outside. I can't comprehend that they'd trust him in the slot without lots of practice time there, since he apparently is a little unsure of what he's supposed to be doing outside. He doesn't play core teams, and he almost got himself killed on his one PR. Barring multiple injuries, I just don't see how he gets a jersey again this year. Quote
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