Game week thread - Bills at Dolphins

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

3 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

I agree that Hiecht was very impressive playing a DT/DE/LB hybrid position. Let’s call it animal. 
 

I would also like to see the Bills continue to use this position. 
 

I think Bosa would  be the best candidate currently on the team. Same weight and frame as Hoecht, and maybe a bit more explosive. And he played LB at LAC. 
 

The argument against this move is you would be weakening the DE group to have him play a position that he hasn’t played. 
 

I think Milano and Williams are both too light at 230ish to line up at DT

So I think if you play Milano there he can also bluff a blitz and fade back into coverage. I saw them do it with 55 a few times. I know it’s not ideal but I love the way he and Dorian play downhill and I think they both can fight through blocks. Plus I want them both on the field With 45 and this gives you the chance. My goal is to get Bernard off the field entirely 

[stevewin]

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

This is such a b.s. narrative, that “stretching the field” is what the Bills need and lack.  No defense plays the Bills in such a way that receivers are going to get free deep.  The Bills must beat teams in the short and intermediate passing game, and they have more than enough competent players to get that done.  This 3-headed TE monster is a nightmare matchup for most defenses, who also have to account for Cook and the running game.  Shakir is a YAC beast.  With Palmer coming back and Josh gaining more trust in Moore, I don’t see the need for hand-wringing over the offense.

 

The other thing that people seem to be minimizing is that come playoff time and bad weather you need to be able to run the ball and be physical.  We should feel very good where our OL and running game is at this point

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

in this years NFL i bet they blow us out lol

53-0

it's weird this year.

 

You never know.  It wouldn't be the biggest shock to see Miami come out and play hard but there really isn't a version of events where buffalo should lose this game.  It would be whatever worse than BILLSY is

[Royale with Cheese]

15 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

I agree that Hiecht was very impressive playing a DT/DE/LB hybrid position. Let’s call it animal. 
 

I would also like to see the Bills continue to use this position. 
 

I think Bosa would  be the best candidate currently on the team. Same weight and frame as Hoecht, and maybe a bit more explosive. And he played LB at LAC. 
 

The argument against this move is you would be weakening the DE group to have him play a position that he hasn’t played. 
 

I think Milano and Williams are both too light at 230ish to line up at DT

Gotta disagree here. 
Teams are playing heavy box to stop Bills run. They can do this because Bills don’t have a deep threat, or a WR that can separate in the intermediate area. 
 

If Bills had a #1 outside receiver, the opponents would clog the LOS and middle much less. 

 

I think Epenesa, Solomon and Dorian take that place.  

 

Epenesa isn't as explosive as Hoecht but has the size.  He does have a first quick step and long.....he does a good job of knocking the ball down.

Solomon and Dorian don't have the size but they have the speed.  Speed makes interior lineman nervous.  

 

I really liked seeing the speed on the inside this last week.  

 

If the playoff defense is for 3rd and passing down situations....

Rousseau and Bosa on the ends.

Oliver/Dorian or Solomon or AJ on the inside.

That should generate a good rush.  

[Dillenger4]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think Epenesa, Solomon and Dorian take that place.  

 

Epenesa isn't as explosive as Hoecht but has the size.  He does have a first quick step and long.....he does a good job of knocking the ball down.

Solomon and Dorian don't have the size but they have the speed.  Speed makes interior lineman nervous.  

 

I really liked seeing the speed on the inside this last week.  

 

If the playoff defense is for 3rd and passing down situations....

Rousseau and Bosa on the ends.

Oliver/Dorian or Solomon or AJ on the inside.

That should generate a good rush.  

Dorian did play the "Hoecht" role for a few plays vs KC last week. He pushed the O lineman well too. I wonder if they will use Dorian in this role now that they see the success it produced. I sure hope they do.

[Mat68]

37 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m interested to see who fills that role that 55 was playing. I think we unlocked something with this defense and I think it’s way more about the role than the player itself. I can see 58, 42 or 56 taking that over and doing very similar things. I’m excited about our defense for the first time since 2017

I wouldn't do player for player.  Role for role.  More 3-2 and 3-3 looks.  Combinations of Bernard and Milano in coverage with Williams as spy/ blitzer and Thompson a blend of both.  Solomon I'm not sure about.  Jackson is at the gotta show me something phase.   

[RunTheBall]

I’d have preferred to trade for a guy, but it looks like Gabe will be the answer at that X receiver spot. I’m not a huge Gabe fan, but he’s light years better than Coleman. If you watch some All-22, whenever Keon was 1-1 outside, KC brought their safety into the box. Keon scares no one, they don’t even bother to keep a deep guy back that’s how little teams fear him. Gabe, on the other hand, will keep that safety up over the top. We know he can get open on deep posts, corners, and outs, those are the only 3 routes Gabe runs. That alone should open up the middle of the field a bit more even if Gabe is the #4 or #5 target. Yeah, not the best solution but I think it’s an improvement on Coleman who has been ASS

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by RunTheBall

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

I’d have preferred to trade for a guy, but it looks like Gabe will be the answer at that X receiver spot. I’m not a huge Gabe fan, but he’s light years better than Coleman. If you watch some All-22, whenever Keon was 1-1 outside, KC brought their safety into the box. Keon scares no one, they don’t even bother to keep a deep guy back that’s how little teams fear him. Gabe, on the other hand, will keep that safety up over the top. We know he can get open on deep posts, corners, and outs, those are the only 3 routes Gabe runs. That alone should open up the middle of the field a bit more even if Gabe is the #4 or #5 target. Yeah, not the best solution but I think it’s an improvement on Coleman who has been ASS

 

 

 

I was at the Falcons and Panthers game in the endzone 30 rows up.  Have a perfect view.

 

In both games, the safeties were tight and giving up all kinds of space outside the hashes.  Coleman was on an island, single covered.

Defenses do not care about him.  They dare us to go outside with Coleman knowing we can't.  

 

At least Davis can go downfield....that's pretty much it.  He at least can make a play there when Coleman can't.

[PaattMaann]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m going to try this one more week here. I know everyone is obsessed with WR. A WR is never going to matter in this offense . It’s by design, make peace with it. We are always going to run through the RBs and TE. The one thing left that can really unlock this thing is a second RB. A 1a that gives you a change of pace from cook. It was looking like Davis but he’s terrible this year….Why not bring Gore up? The guy has done nothing but flash. He’s an excellent football player. He’d be an amazing complement to Cook. Gore up and being a legitimate good RB2 is the road to an unstoppable offense. Give it a shot 

 

Gore is such an excellent football player that 32 teams do not want him on their roster. Got it. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I didn't realize Phidarian Mathis was a formed R2 pick. 
 

I noticed him in a good way vs KC. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Gore is such an excellent football player that 32 teams do not want him on their roster. Got it. 

Yea I think the philosophy with the running game is at minimum you stay on schedule but are a threat to break a big one at any time.  Gore doesn’t really have the burst for that second part which kinda makes the whole thing fall apart

[buffaloboyinATL]

20 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I didn't realize Phidarian Mathis was a formed R2 pick. 
 

I noticed him in a good way vs KC. 

I am really excited about him. We just added him to the 53 and I think he will start showing up on film more and more going forward. 

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[Buffalo4Life01]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

Aside from the first AFCCG the margins of victory in the other playoff matchups are 6, 3, and 3 points.  If that's your definition of taking someone to school, carry on, brother.

 

What's McDermott's record against Reid in the playoffs again?  When the games really matter, has McDermott beaten the Chiefs once or twice in the playoffs?  Yeah, that's my definition of taking someone to school.  Reid is UNDEFEDATED coaching against McDermott in the playoffs.  If point margin is what matters to you though, yeah, you must love watching our head coach clapping on the sidelines as the final seconds close out another devastating playoff loss!

2 hours ago, TheWei44 said:

Not sure why the discussion is focused on Davis vs. Gore - It's Davis vs. Johnson, and Johnson was the choice last week, and he did just fine.  Maybe have Gore replace Davis as the number 3?  I'd be fine with that.

I am not sure what you can discern from fan reaction but I can't imagine their plan was to let Bosa and company destroy Mahomes, getting the most hits of any game in his career (and worst completion % IIRC).  Come on, that doesn't pass the smell test.  And the Chiefs really needed a win too (just for the win given their record and also since it's an AFC game and also re h-to-h tiebreaker vs. Bills).  But of course their game plan if we see them in the playoffs will be different - It will address deficiencies from the regular season game, have a bunch of other wrinkles, etc., etc.

No kidding.  It's what Reid does to McDermott every single time they meet in the playoffs.  He outcoaches Shawn.  Period.  People who want to cry about injuries or bad calls will continue with that sob story until the end of time.  McDermott shrinks in the biggest of moments.  That's a fact. 

[Dan]

Can all y’all give it a rest!?  How about we start a thread and just call it the “piss and moan life sucks” thread.  
 

We play the Dolphins this week… and I was hoping to read about this week’s game here.  Not hypothetical matchups in 2 or 3 months.  And non stopping whining about how horrible our team and the FO is.   Just go to Chiefs planet or Bengals Board of awesomeness and profess your love of their receivers there. Please.  Just go. 

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

What's McDermott's record against Reid in the playoffs again?  When the games really matter, has McDermott beaten the Chiefs once or twice in the playoffs?  Yeah, that's my definition of taking someone to school.  Reid is UNDEFEDATED coaching against McDermott in the playoffs.  If point margin is what matters to you though, yeah, you must love watching our head coach clapping on the sidelines as the final seconds close out another devastating playoff loss!

 

Come on guy.  This is the MIAMI week thread.

 

There are plenty of "McDermott sucks" thread you can take this talk to.

1 minute ago, Dan said:

Can all y’all give it a rest!?  How about we start a thread and just call it the “piss and moan life sucks” thread.  
 

We play the Dolphins this week… and I was hoping to read about this week’s game here.  Not hypothetical matchups in 2 or 3 months.  And non stopping whining about how horrible our team and the FO is.   Just go to Chiefs planet or Bengals Board of awesomeness and profess your love of their receivers there. Please.  Just go. 

 

LOL I just posted for them to take this stuff to another thread.

Thanks for bringing that up too.

[bills742]

 

Edited 6 hours ago by bills742

[HappyDays]

Worrying set of injuries but hopefully more caution than anything. Cook clearly was not right in the 2nd half of the KC game but gutted it out. I saw Bosa shaking his hand out a few times so he probably played through his injury too.

[Buffalo4Life01]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Come on guy.  This is the MIAMI week thread.

 

There are plenty of "McDermott sucks" thread you can take this talk to.

 

LOL I just posted for them to take this stuff to another thread.

Thanks for bringing that up too.

Someone mentioned something earlier that tripped my trigger and I acted on it.  I almost never post negative feedback or comments on this message board but for whatever reason, I chose to do so this morning.  I do apologize if things went off the rails for a few posts and I hope this years playoff experience is vastly different than previous years.  For those of you who think this is the year McDermott doesn't shrink in the playoffs, I applaud your optimism.  As long as we have Josh, there is always a chance.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, dorquemada said:

 

You never know.  It wouldn't be the biggest shock to see Miami come out and play hard but there really isn't a version of events where buffalo should lose this game.  It would be whatever worse than BILLSY is

I really don’t think their roster is bad when they have tyreek healthy tbh…I’m havin trouble seeing us getting upset in this one without him though 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan