Dillenger4 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago If Strong was available I would HOPE McD would play Strong over useless Tre. Lots of hope floating around the Bills this year. Kind of a shame! Quote
st pete gogolak Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Legacy? You’re kidding, right? Did it tarnish Joe Namath’s legacy playing for the Rams? What? He played for the Rams? Did it tarnish Johnny Unitas’ legacy playing for the Chargers? What? He played for the Chargers? Tre White’s legacy is that he was an All-Pro corner who’s career was ruined by catastrophic injuries. 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Legacy? He was a very good player for a very short time. His legacy is unfulfilled promise decimated by injuries. Lets be honest he was never a lock down man to man shut down corner even before he was injured. Maybe he could have been but McDermott didnt play him like that. Maybe two or three games before he was hurt did he even shadow the opponents #1 WR. Again that may have been scheme. 1 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago If you have a better CB available to start, then sure. Strong is out with a neck injury, Hairston is out with a knee injury, and it’s very possible White is better than Ingram. I’m not sure what you want here. 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Tre's poor play is drastically exageratted. Has he had 2 bad games? Yes. Has he had 6 bad games? No, lol. People are just parroting it at this point. He is the 2nd outside DB. He has largely been somewhere between "meh" and "fine" across 6 games. But people talk like he is just targeted on every single throw and responsible for our pass defense. Benford has been taken advantage of and he is our number 1 outside corner who we just paid. He has been glaringly bad compared to his expectations, pay, and role. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD I don't think either DB can count on consistant help from the safeties. Loads of people are out of position. 4 3 2 Quote
wppete Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago On 10/14/2025 at 12:06 AM, Roundybout said: Tre White left us as a beloved All-Pro defensive back who got hit with two brutal injuries. Now, he’s back. And he’s unplayable. I’d argue he’s unrosterable. He is constantly 15 yards away from receivers. He takes horrific penalties because he can’t keep up anymore with offenses. I can’t recall the last big play he’s made for us. White needs to retire for the good of his legacy. It’s such a shame to watch. I’d argue it’s borderline selfish for him to keep going like this. Is Damaging or Has already damaged??? He certainly needs to retire. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago He allowed 1 catch on 2 targets. There is nothing that can be said about Tre White that also doesn't apply to Taron Johnson and Benford. 2 2 Quote
dave mcbride Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Mango said: Tre's poor play is drastically exageratted. Has he had 2 bad games? Yes. Has he had 6 bad games? No, lol. People are just parroting it at this point. He is the 2nd outside DB. He has largely been somewhere between "meh" and "fine" across 6 games. But people talk like he is just targeted on every single throw and responsible for our pass defense. Benford has been taken advantage of and he is our number 1 outside corner who we just paid. He has been glaringly bad compared to his expectations, pay, and role. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD I don't think either DB can count on consistant help from the safeties. Loads of people are out of position. This is exactly true. He hasn't been that bad. At this point, he's a mediocre NFL CB -- a JAG, but a legit NFL-level JAG. The people behind him are worse -- way worse. 1 1 Quote
Sweats Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago On his last leg, ready to retire, lost a step, can't play anymore?!?...........our team will open a spot for him All are welcome 1 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago He showed us he was literally over the hill on hard knocks but we never noticed Quote
TheFunPolice Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago I don't think he was that bad. He's not the same guy he was, but he is FAR from the biggest issue on defense. Neither of our safeties can play. Our undersized LBers are always getting hurt. Our DE's are basically nonexistent. The real issue? The defense keeps bringing back guys it let go because the GM has FAILED to replace them. Last year we actually signed a guy who shouldn't/couldn't even play to the practice squad (Hyde). That was insanely bad roster management. 1 1 Quote
JimBob2232 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Lol. Agree he isn't great. But he is starting because we have nobody better! 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He allowed 1 catch on 2 targets. There is nothing that can be said about Tre White that also doesn't apply to Taron Johnson and Benford. Yup, if your going to bag on Tre (who wasn’t even supposed to start), you sure as hell better criticize Taron & Christian. The bigger problem is our entire secondary as a collective unit. They are a mess right now. 2 Quote
jlatas Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Dillenger4 said: If Strong was available I would HOPE McD would play Strong over useless Tre. Lots of hope floating around the Bills this year. Kind of a shame! Has there ever been any word on Strong and him seeing a neck specialist? Is the neck injury season ending? Seems like the Bills have been keeping his injury hush-hush a bit. Have I missed any news on this?? I think 2 weeks have gone by now... Edited 17 hours ago by jlatas Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago On 10/13/2025 at 11:09 PM, Walking Tall said: Ja’Marcus Ingram must be real bad because there is no excuse for White to still be out there. Funny thing is….I thought Ingram showed well last season. Shows how much I know. According to Joe Marino's All-22 review, you are correct! Ingram was very, very bad and would be a severe downgrade to Tre, if you can imagine that. 1 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago He’s actually surprised me with his tackling ability, as he was never a solid tackler even during the all pro season. Having said that, he’s currently barely passable as an NFL corner. The problem is, others are either injured or awful. Poor CB2 play affects Benford as well, as he’s played below expectations. Add in these two pet rocks we have at safety and you’ve got real problems 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: You gotta at least try him at safety. We are here now. We don’t have an endless supply of options. He’s on the roster. Try to see if he can move there, evaluate it and if he can’t move on Who is playing corner then ? Not how Bills planned this for sure. Tre was the Vet back up and surprised a few he could still play. and he has. But he is the Vet back up while bringing Hairston and or Strong. Aren't both injured currently ? Bring in Woolen ? Seahawks dude, somehow. I read that some where. But yea. its time for Beane's wizardry. Get out the credit card not sure about playing safety for Tre. 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: I don't think he was that bad. He's not the same guy he was, but he is FAR from the biggest issue on defense. Neither of our safeties can play. Our undersized LBers are always getting hurt. Our DE's are basically nonexistent. The real issue? The defense keeps bringing back guys it let go because the GM has FAILED to replace them. Last year we actually signed a guy who shouldn't/couldn't even play to the practice squad (Hyde). That was insanely bad roster management. Poyer was a worser and seriously desperate move Quote
Toyo321 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) Tre is just a has been now, he should never have been signed. He is playing just as bad now as he was in training camp at SJ Fisher College. Our entire D is under sized, no physically talented attributes at all, not physically reliable, they hold on almost every play, can't play man D. They can read or jump routes to try and intercept the ball. The are always 3 to 7 yards off the receiver they are trying to cover because they have no speed what so ever to cover the receiver lined up across from them. All I can say is our Line Backers are the worst in the league, Milano has not been the same player since he broke his leg and Terrel Bernard is undersized and gets flattened every time he comes in to make a play in the gap or to stuff the run. He gets pushed off the ball 5 to 10 yards and can stop the run to save his life. No one on this D knows how to tackle a player. Neither LB is any good against the run, and this year it has been brutal to watch. With a complete lack of physically imposing players on D, you wonder why they get pushed all over the field on every down by teams like Atlanta and NO & NE. Our D is the worst that we have fielded in the last 10 years. Edited 16 hours ago by Toyo321 Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yup, if your going to bag on Tre (who wasn’t even supposed to start), you sure as hell better criticize Taron & Christian. The bigger problem is our entire secondary as a collective unit. They are a mess right now. Seriously, what has happened to Benford? He looks dazed and confused every week. Taron is just physically overmatched with his lack of size. Although I thought he made a nice breakup on the 4th and short throw over the middle. And how come are safeties are showing no improvement? They look horrible. I have been saying this all year. Get Hancock on the field. He will be a starter going forward! The guy has instincts and talent. He won't get better sitting on the bench. And only playing special teams. Bishop has no instincts for the position, and I don't think he has a lot of talent either. And Rapp has no athleticism period. Start Hancock and Poyer if you have to against the Panthers. It has to be better than Bishop and Rapp. That being said, regarding the original post on this thread. Tre pretty much sucks at this point. And should not be on the field. Quote
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