Beans and Sean - Should we miss the SB again

[CincyBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, FormerLV-BILLS said:

The grass is rarely brown for anyone that has a QB like Josh Allen.  He's worth 11 or 12 wins alone.  Gotta have a pair to win it all.  Be bold and make a friggin move if they fail again, or it will be the biggest waste of a generational talent NFL in league history.

Good point.  The ONLY time the Bills made a bold move on offense was signing Diggs back in 2020.  Over the last 5 seasons, including this one, the Bills have not made a statement move on offense.  By this I mean they haven't signed a top offensive FA or moved up into the top half of the draft to grab a blue chip prospect.

 

If the Bills fail to make/win a SB this will be looked back on in hindsight as the reason they came up short with a unicorn at QB.

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by CincyBillsFan

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

lol

 

you're telling me the guy who took Mark Sanchez to two AFCCGs couldn't win a SuperBowl w Allen

 

I will if he won’t. Rex with the Bills was a clown with a giant ego. If he was that good of a coach, he’d still be coaching instead of a blow hard on TV. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

Both should be gone if they don't make the SB this year. Allen will be 30. The clock is ticking. There is no guarantee he will be elite into his later years. 

 

All that said, they won't be gone. And it's a shame. A waste really. The next Marino. But at least Marino got to a SB.

 

And before you know it, we will look up and NE has surpassed us. Both in the division and conference. 

 

It's unbelievable 

 

 

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

I will if he won’t. Rex with the Bills was a clown with a giant ego. If he was that good of a coach, he’d still be coaching instead of a blow hard on TV. 

The 2009-2011 Rex Ryan takes this team to a SB. After that, not so much.

[Big Blitz]

27 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

The Bills already hit their peak at 13 seconds. The AFC is only going to be adding more young QBs who will make our schedule tougher every single year. Wait until Miami and Jets actually find a guy when they go 2-15.

 

We will never have any easier schedule than we do this year and if they don't get the 1 seed and make it to the Super Bowl, it's an abject failure all-around. Our depth is awful, the offense is ALL Josh Allen, and we are 1 or two injuries away from completely falling apart. The Patriots found their guy and the division is no longer a given anymore.

 

How many more failed Dline and receiver picks need to be made to show that drafting has been atrocious. Without Allen, this team falls off a cliff and and maybe they win 2-3 games a year. Wasting arguably the most talented QB to ever live is the crime of the sports century. Enough is enough..

 

None of this is wrong.  None of it.  
 

The fact the Patriots have a better Defense than us right now with only 1 top 15 pick on it is absolutely embarrassing.  

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I will if he won’t. Rex with the Bills was a clown with a giant ego. If he was that good of a coach, he’d still be coaching instead of a blow hard on TV. 

Ryan w the Bills was a .500 coach just like McDermott w the Bills was a .500 coach before allen showed up

[RkFast]

Im much more "over" Beane than McD. To me, Beane seems to be living way too much off the "but we have Josh Allen" mindset when it comes to team composition. We dont need an A receiver...we have Josh Allen. We dont need a better defense to close out the Chiefs...we have Josh Allen.

 

When it comes to him, personally he seems to have this "But I drafted Josh Allen" defense to all his critiques. IMHO, both are a terrible approach. 

Edited 1 hour ago by RkFast

[gobills404]

54 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

One always thinks the grass is greener on the other side, but most of the time it’s brown.

True but you want the grass to be greener that might be a risk you need to take

[Success]

Just now, RkFast said:

Im much more "over" Beane than McD. To me, Beane seems to be living way too much off the "but we have Josh Allen" mindset when it comes to team composition. When it comes to him, personally he seems to have this "But I drafted Josh Allen" mindset, especially when it comes to critique of the job he's doing. IMHO, both are a terrible approach.

 

I'm kind of opposite. I still think our personnel is better than what they show on the field.  I think a top-tier DC could make this a top 10 defense w/ the players we have.  

 

The schemes & soft zone have always nagged at me.  They just don't work against top QB's and teams, and we don't seem to make necessary changes.

 

[RkFast]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I'm kind of opposite. I still think our personnel is better than what they show on the field.  I think a top-tier DC could make this a top 10 defense w/ the players we have.  

 

The schemes & soft zone have always nagged at me.  They just don't work against top QB's and teams, and we don't seem to make necessary changes.

 

 

Fair point. There have now been a lot of critiques from OUTSIDE the org that the Bills' offense and defensive approaches are dated. 

[DeltaDigital]

hahah. the sooner we all realize this organization is going to "Rivers" Josh Allen the sooner we can relax. Anything above and beyond that will be a miracle. 

Same story. In fact, one could argue, ALLEN has done more with severely less. 

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, Cubanmist 1 said:

As much as I love Sean and Beane, I strongly believe that if we miss the reaching the SB again we HAVE to move on. Things seem stagnant and nothing has changed when compared to last year. 
 

I think Beane has done a disservice to Allen by not providing better targets especially when he could have instead of drafting crappy players (Landon Jackson, Bishop, Greg Rousseau, Basham, and that one CB that was traded to Dallas). Something has got to change. What do you guys think?

Agreed,  you have a HOF QB and have not hit on enough picks to improve the team.  McDermott is stubborn and not willing to bring in a new defensive cordinator and run a different style/scheme of defence.  McDermott got fired in Philly because of this defence,  it does not work against good QB'S

Edited 1 hour ago by Niagara Dude

[Joe Ferguson]

Bills will never get a ring if you have a defensive minded head coach who keeps investing  high draft picks on defense. Every year Josh Allen's talent is wasted because the draft picks never go to a 1st round WR . And each year the defense failed especially in the playoffs 

 

[Cubanmist 1]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

A lot of people (myself included) would welcome a change, but Terry likes Beane and McDermott as his GM/HC combo. Unless the Bills completely fall apart and miss the playoffs I don't see either one in danger of losing their jobs. Even if they did miss the playoffs Terry would probably give them another year to fix the problem.

The owner should know, that is not how you make a team better. Change makes a team better and Beane is all about resigning players..even after they have shown you who they are. Groot is a player I would entertain moving ASAP!

[gomper]

The ONLY way this happens is if Josh goes directly to Pegula and says "We'll never win a championship win the current regime." In the meantime, we all get to enjoy Marvin Lewis 2.0.

[HappyDays]

22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

The fact the Patriots have a better Defense than us right now with only 1 top 15 pick on it is absolutely embarrassing.  

 

Their secondary reminded me of how our secondary used to look when Leslie Frazier was here. They were synchronized, getting appropriate depth on their drops, passing guys off well, and when it came time to plaster they plastered. Ours used to look like that until Frazier left and since then it's never looked the same.

 

Vrabel is an excellent coach and it looks like they found their QB too. They need to add more legit pass catchers and more edge pass rush to be real championship contenders but they are probably one offseason away from being a real threat for the division, if they're not already there now.

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, gomper said:

The ONLY way this happens is if Josh goes directly to Pegula and says "We'll never win a championship win the current regime." In the meantime, we all get to enjoy Marvin Lewis 2.0.

never going to happen

[ngbills]

So much short term memory or lack of real memory. The Bills had a ton of ~8-8 seasons with guys like Edwards, Losman, Taylor, an old Bledsoe, Orton, etc. You cant tell me Allen replacing any of those QB's does not drastically change things. Additionally many of those years were in a much tougher AFC east with 6 tough games compared to the past few years in the division. 

 

I would expect a capable HC to inherit this team with Josh Allen and achieve at least similar results. The Bills win more games from either playing crappy teams or Josh Allen balling out than coaching or game plan genius. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

never going to happen

Then Allen is content with the way things are. 

 

He did extend here as well

[GoBills808]

Just now, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Then Allen is content with the way things are. 

 

He did extend here as well

more like QBs don't go to ownership demanding their coach gets fired very often

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Their secondary reminded me of how our secondary used to look when Leslie Frazier was here. They were synchronized, getting appropriate depth on their drops, passing guys off well, and when it came time to plaster they plastered. Ours used to look like that until Frazier left and since then it's never looked the same.

 

Vrabel is an excellent coach and it looks like they found their QB too. They need to add more legit pass catchers and more edge pass rush to be real championship contenders but they are probably one offseason away from being a real threat for the division, if they're not already there now.

 

We were spoiled with Hyde, Poyer, White and Johnson.  Even then some here complained.