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3 hours ago, Einstein said:


This argument doesn't hold water.

It’s the PRO scouts and GM's literal job to know who will be better.

Fair point there for sure but I’d be interested to see how this season plays out…the guys are close statistically right now with the edge going to Kincaid so far this year I’d say.  Wasn’t like kincaid’s rookie season was bad either.  Could be year 2 was a bit of an outlier or it could be he’s not much better than ok…probably too early to say 

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Posted
45 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I think you missed the context of the discussion you butted into.

 

The discussion wasn’t “should we fire Beane?” - I have been clear on my stance that no one from the current regime should go.

 

The discussion was whether a GM deserves blame for selecting the wrong player. That’s it! That’s all of it. Nothing else. And YES - a GM should absolutely shoulder blame for selecting the wrong player, even if others thought the player he selected was the better choice.

 

They are paid to know the future.

 

 

By your definition of a GM (just doing what everyone thinks is the right decision), we could simply fire the GM and scouting staff and simply select draft picks based on the average consensus of prognosticators.

This is my last comment to this, because your comments are just not making any sort of logical argument. They are not paid to know the future-that’s idiotic. They are trying to make predictions with the information they currently have. By your logic, teams should have known to take Brady #1 overall, the Browns would e taken Josh #1, and the Bills should’ve predicted that Vin would tear his ACL 8 games into his first season here. They’re paid to KNOW the future, right? 

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14 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

the Browns would e taken Josh #1, and the Bills should’ve predicted that Vin would tear his ACL 8 games into his first season here. They’re paid to KNOW the future, right? 

 

Yes. Correct.

 

Browns GM lost his job after that, and many people admonished the Bills for paying an old Von that much money when older players get injured more often.

 

By your definition of a GM, we could simply fire the GM and scouting staff and simply select draft picks based on the average consensus of prognosticators.

 

And really we should never fire a GM, because they can’t possibly know what the right decision is… we should still have Buddy Nix.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I hate that the Patriots are playing good. Don't screw this up buffalo 

Agree, Every game like it or not is a must win, that is the attitude our guys need to adopt, jmo. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I hate that the Patriots are playing good. Don't screw this up buffalo 

I’m hoping the loss will make the Bills more focused. Looking for a complete game from them.  Been awhile. 

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24 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Agree, Every game like it or not is a must win, that is the attitude our guys need to adopt, jmo. 

Careful...people will tell you that you are overreacting if you call this a "must win" (even though it really is, considering the division with NE, and the AFC at large with Indy, Denver/Chargers). We really need to win this game, get to the bye, get the guys back from suspension, and go on a run to create some separation.

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Just came across these tidbits this afternoon:

Josh Allen has 12 TD passes vs the blitz this year..the highest in the NFL..since 2022, he is the highest rated quarterback vs the blitz.

So far this season, the team with the highest blitz rate??...Atlanta

 

Side note...the collective records of the 4 teams the Bills have beaten is now 3-21.

Posted
1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

Yes. Correct.

 

Browns GM lost his job after that, and many people admonished the Bills for paying an old Von that much money when older players get injured more often.

 

By your definition of a GM, we could simply fire the GM and scouting staff and simply select draft picks based on the average consensus of prognosticators.

 

And really we should never fire a GM, because they can’t possibly know what the right decision is… we should still have Buddy Nix.

And the Jason Licht traded the pick that would’ve landed Josh Allen…. He failed.  And then he won a Super Bowl 3 years later.  Gms fail all the time.  All of them.  Ever.  

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Does anyone regularly stalk the Bills travel pictures?

 

I just happened to look through them today and it seems they bring the entire practice squad with them - is that normal for an away game?

 

Tyler Bass and Hairston were in the pics too, maybe they are both close to a return. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

2nd place incoming in the AFC East if we don't pull off a win Monday night.

That will be tough with a bye coming. Pats will be 5-2 after next week.

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Einstein said:


This argument doesn't hold water.

Its the PRO scouts and GM's literal job to know who will be better.

 

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I think you missed the context of the discussion you butted into.

 

The discussion wasn’t “should we fire Beane?” - I have been clear on my stance that no one from the current regime should go.

 

The discussion was whether a GM deserves blame for selecting the wrong player. That’s it! That’s all of it. Nothing else. And YES - a GM should absolutely shoulder blame for selecting the wrong player, even if others thought the player he selected was the better choice.

 

They are paid to know the future.

 

 

By your definition of a GM (just doing what everyone thinks is the right decision), we could simply fire the GM and scouting staff and simply select draft picks based on the average consensus of prognosticators.

 

7 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

 A general managers job is to know what will happens before it happens!!!


That is LITERALLY their job.

 

Should we have kept Doug Whaley or Buddy Knox because “aw shucks, can’t use hindsight against them!”

 

No!

 

It's not the GM's "literal job to know who" the better Pro will be. No one has a Crystal Ball. It's always a projection and an educated guess that can hit or fail based on a million different factors. 

 

Their job is to field a winning team. They are held responsible for the result of the team they field. Whaley and Nix weren't fired for Drafting poorly. They were fired for not fielding a winning team. Is Drafting part of that? Absolutely. But it's just a part of it. Acquiring a stud QB (which you can do outside of the Draft), getting the right Free Agents, managing the cap, and correctly evaluating when and where to improve or stay pat with what you have are all as important, if not more (definitely cumulatively).

 

If you can't secure a Franchise QB (as Whaley and Nix didn't), you can Draft amazingly elsewhere, not compete, and lose your job. On the Flip side, you can secure a Josh Allen, miss on some picks, but be safe for being a team that competes every year. If anything, you're judged more harshly for going against the grain and being wrong than you are going with the consensus top prospect and being wrong.

 

Bill Belichick is a prime example of a lot of these things. On practically a yearly basis, Belichick would reach with his picks and dumbfound former scouts and Draft analysts. It rarely worked. Tom Brady and the players who would sign on to play with Tom Brady kept them a force and cancelled out the bad Drafting.

 

But once Brady went from being superhuman to just a very good QB, those Draft flaws started to add up. Soon after Brady left to go somewhere else where he had better help to make up for the drop off in his game age provided. And not soon after he left, then and only then the inadequacies in roster building, leaving the Patriots non competitive, would quickly cost Belichick his job.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Fair point there for sure but I’d be interested to see how this season plays out…the guys are close statistically right now with the edge going to Kincaid so far this year I’d say.  Wasn’t like kincaid’s rookie season was bad either.  Could be year 2 was a bit of an outlier or it could be he’s not much better than ok…probably too early to say 

Could this be a factor? 

 

“AI Overview

During the 2024 NFL season, Bills tight end Dalton Kincaid had a significant knee injury in his left knee, specifically a PCL sprain, that caused him to miss multiple games. He also had bursitis in his right knee, and despite playing through some pain, his production declined, leading to a disappointing season before he was fully healthy for the start of the 2025 season.”

 

Just looking at stats without context can be misleading. I love that Kincaid has apparently stepped up his blocking this year as well. The book is not written yet on this season, much less his career. 

 

Oh, and the other 31 teams have scouts (just barely for the Bengals) and GM’s too. They are all paid to do their best, so it was actually a rather silly point you responded to. The most anyone can offer is their best guess.  Life is not an algebra problem. 

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Posted
29 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

I do not think the season is on the brink, but some nagging feeling I have is that the season is brink.

I agree, sort of. The season itself won’t be over with a loss but the bills will be demonstrating an inability to improve and it will mean they are likely to NOT reach/win the Super Bowl. 

 

we’ve plateaued and need to improve. haven’t seen any signs of improvement, look very much like the recent versions of ourselves. 
 

win or lose this game we likely make the playoffs, so we’ll have a shot. Need to see the defense grow into something scary or we’re likely not getting over the hump. 
 

Has the plateau been sweet? Sure, but we want a Super Bowl win. 

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2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

I agree, sort of. The season itself won’t be over with a loss but the bills will be demonstrating an inability to improve and it will mean they are likely to NOT reach/win the Super Bowl. 

 

we’ve plateaued and need to improve. haven’t seen any signs of improvement, look very much like the recent versions of ourselves. 
 

win or lose this game we likely make the playoffs, so we’ll have a shot. Need to see the defense grow into something scary or we’re likely not getting over the hump. 
 

Has the plateau been sweet? Sure, but we want a Super Bowl win. 

 

It's Week #6.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Yes. Correct.

 

Browns GM lost his job after that, and many people admonished the Bills for paying an old Von that much money when older players get injured more often.

 

By your definition of a GM, we could simply fire the GM and scouting staff and simply select draft picks based on the average consensus of prognosticators.

 

And really we should never fire a GM, because they can’t possibly know what the right decision is… we should still have Buddy Nix.

I liked olde Man Nix

 Fitzy. that horizontal offense.

 

Its the Scouting that matters. and still. we know the % of success for any round is all over the place.

And then the definition of each player's success in itself is subjective i suggest ?

 Prolly buttin' in where i don't belong in this.
 

 

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