Keon WTF?

[Bangarang]

Still waiting for the Keon breakout that was hyped in the off-season. 

 

He's such a JAG. A jump ball guy out of necessity because he can't get any kind of separation. 

[Kirby Jackson]

He’s just not very good. This is who he is. If people expected more, it wasn’t based on his skillset, it was based on hope. It’s honestly not his fault. He works hard and has a great attitude. This is the exact guy he was on film in college. Expecting him to be someone that he wasn’t was the issue.

[SoMAn]

35 minutes ago, Pete said:

 

Seeing that reminded me that there were 2 separate of fumbles the Bills lost but could've recovered if they'd practiced the fundamentals they're taught -  diving on the ball rather than trying to be the hero and snagging the ball off of the ground. 

[BananaB]

Watching this team try to cover might explain all the hype on Keon training camp this year. D sucks! Gives us false hope on our WR core every offseason. On Sunday no one gets open

Edited 4 hours ago by BananaB

[DapperCam]

Pretty clear that Keon is never going to be a good starting boundary WR. He doesn’t have the physical attributes to succeed, and I really doubt he becomes an elite route runner to make up for it at this point. For a 2nd round pick I guess he isn’t a huge bust, but still not what we needed.

 

Allen has made plenty of guys look serviceable, and then they look terrible when to move on to their next team.

[Walking Tall]

As Coleman was tucking it away, the Patriots defender reached in and got his hand on the nose of the football and pulled it out. Sometimes you just tip your cap. Those guys are getting paid as well.

[oldmanfan]

1 hour ago, Since1981 said:

Worthy. Harrison.
Could have used legit WR1, CB2 yesterday 😮

Like Worthy is a # 1 WR.  Coleman made a couple really good plays yesterday that were overshadowed by the fumble 

[transient]

46 minutes ago, Pete said:

I leave for work 2 AM - thanks Keon, Refs, and Joe Brady’s stupid calls for my 2 hours of sleep.  I work in Massachusetts with tons of Pats fans.  That made for a fun day at work today

I agree.  But Bills offense was off, and didn’t need careless turnovers, too much to overcome apparently 

I watch that replay and get sick to my stomach.  Zero ball security.  Keon has ball in his right hand, loosely.  Defender hits Keons left hand, and the ball flies out of his right hand
 

The defender has his left hand on the ball and pops it out. You can clearly see it on the replay in this thread (if you can stomach watching it again, it's very apparent on the second angle they show). 

[blacklabel]

4 hours ago, Sweats said:

I'd say, it was a bad game by everyone all around.......blaming one player when the whole team **** the bed is not the correct answer here.

 

Reminds me of a quote from the movie Baseketball. "Well, it was a team effort, and it took every player working together to lose this one."

 

Fumbles, drops, penalties, a pick, inconsistent pressure, OL struggles, missed tackles, etc. Take your pick. And then Maye was ridiculous escaping some of those sacks, so annoying. 

 

Crap happens. Get over it and get it together for the next one. 

Edited 2 hours ago by blacklabel

[DeltaDigital]

5 hours ago, Pete said:

Your weak fumble inside our 10 yard line gifted the Pats a victory.  You went back to playing patty cakes instead of using your God given size and leaping power.  This was the worst game of your career.   Worse than getting a football bounced off the side of your head.  WTF Keon?  

facts. 100% an unserious player. dude looks awkward out there, not smooth, not confident... what a waste. 

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Still waiting for the Keon breakout that was hyped in the off-season. 

 

He's such a JAG. A jump ball guy out of necessity because he can't get any kind of separation. 

Really thought the Baltimore game was going to be the start of something. 

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Seeing that reminded me that there were 2 separate of fumbles the Bills lost but could've recovered if they'd practiced the fundamentals they're taught -  diving on the ball rather than trying to be the hero and snagging the ball off of the ground. 

FIRSTTTTT THING THEY TEACH AT POP WARNER.

 

Not to mention there was zero to be gained even if he did pick it up.

 

I still hate it but can wrap my head around a DE trying to scoop a ball after a FF strip on a QB, this was certainly not that scenario. Very very dumb in traffic. Zero upside 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Keon had his mistake, sure but he made other plays. Biggest issue was tackling again. Especially behind the LOS or immediately after the catch. 

Couple that with getting shredded in the zones on the boundary and yeah, not good. 

I'd argue our biggest problem is completing the act of a sack. We get to the qb, but take 5 seconds trying to get him down while he still releases the ball.  That 4th quarter completion to Diggs was the game. 

[davefan66]

Last week Keon had a couple of nice catches open one drive. Broadcast showed how he got separation, but watching at the game it was much better looking in person. Got open and seemed to be n synchronized with Josh.  Seems like they’d rather use him for ”contested catches”.

 

Sorry but contested catches should not be ALL you have in your arsenal. Should be a small percentage versus getting open, YAC or making sideline grabs.  Really need a true number one receiver.

[Sojourner]

5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'd argue our biggest problem is completing the act of a sack. We get to the qb, but take 5 seconds trying to get him down while he still releases the ball.  That 4th quarter completion to Diggs was the game. 

Absolutey. That falls under the tackling issue. Happened in the Baltimore game several times. Players lunging at the feet of the players, Lamar included. 
 

If DaQuan stays in his feet, even just forces a BS throw, it could have been a different outcome. 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

And that's what i'm saying, the whole team played badly regardless of Colemans fumble, where in games past, the team could have easily overcome some sloppy undisciplined play, but last night..........ugh

15 called penalties....this team was not caught in a white out but extreme fog. No focus at all last night.

3 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Absolutey. That falls under the tackling issue. Happened in the Baltimore game several times. Players lunging at the feet of the players, Lamar included. 
 

If DaQuan stays in his feet, even just forces a BS throw, it could have been a different outcome. 

And as I recall we had 2 more opportunities earlier in the game to sack Maye. Instead we just hang on his legs like some little kid playing with their dad.  Both times he was able to throw the ball away and avoid a big loss.  Game wreckers don't miss sack opportunities like that. 

[dorquemada]

26 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Really thought the Baltimore game was going to be the start of something. 

[Pete]

2 hours ago, Walking Tall said:

As Coleman was tucking it away, the Patriots defender reached in and got his hand on the nose of the football and pulled it out. Sometimes you just tip your cap. Those guys are getting paid as well.

How the hell did he get his hand on the nose of the ball?  Football 101 I learned in pee wee football, keep your hand on the nose of the football and grip it tight.

[Walking Tall]

48 minutes ago, Pete said:

How the hell did he get his hand on the nose of the ball?  Football 101 I learned in pee wee football, keep your hand on the nose of the football and grip it tight.

When you catch a ball and move it to protect it and carry it, there is a brief second where the ball is more exposed. Plain and simple.

Edited 1 hour ago by Walking Tall

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

Should've drafted ladd mcconkey. Ladd and Shakir wr room solved. 

One of the few times this message board was right.