Ravens at Chiefs - who do you want to have their third loss?

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

want. kc to lose.

 

what I want and what likely happens, won't line up.

 

 

ravens will fall to 1-3 while kc will go on a run and all the swifties/media and chiefs fans will be talkin' supabowl.

 

 

who knows, its the nfl. until the chiefs get knocked off the mountain, they remain the best to beat. as a bills fan my hope is, this season is when they get knocked off by JA and company and if last seasons sb and the sludge of a start kc has had to this point, maybe the time has come?

 

GO    RAVENS !!

 

 

 

 

Edited September 25 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[DapperCam]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

100% agree which is why I’ve been saying that we want the Ravens to win this weekend. It’s still very unlikely that they catch, and pass, the Bills. We want them to end up as the 2 or 3 seed I think (assuming that they don’t collapse and miss the playoffs which looks highly unlikely). The 1-3 Chiefs are way less likely to be a playoff team than the 1-3 Ravens.

On the other hand, a Ravens loss essentially buries them for the #1 seed. It would put them potentially 3.5 games back, so they would need to win 4 more games than the Bills the rest of the way to pass us. There is a lot uncertain this early in the season (maybe KC actually sucks this season and will miss regardless of beating the Ravens, we just don't know yet).

I think we can only hope for Lamar to get sacked a bunch, Henry to fumble again and Mahomes to throw some more picks in Kelce's direction.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

On the other hand, a Ravens loss essentially buries them for the #1 seed. It would put them potentially 3.5 games back, so they would need to win 4 more games than the Bills the rest of the way to pass us. There is a lot uncertain this early in the season (maybe KC actually sucks this season and will miss regardless of beating the Ravens, we just don't know yet).

I think we can only hope for Lamar to get sacked a bunch, Henry to fumble again and Mahomes to throw some more picks in Kelce's direction.

I think that the Bills go 14-3 or 13-4. The Ravens, win or lose, can either have no losses or 1 more loss if that happens to get the 1 seed. That’s not happening. I suppose that they COULD get to like 12-5 but that’s not close to good enough for the 1. That Lions game the other day was huge. As far as I’m concerned, that buried them. 

[BuffaloBaumer]

I am starting to go back and forth on this one. I was thinking the Ravens win would be better because they are winning the division no matter what. But now, I may be tilting towards Chiefs because the #1 seed is the only thing that matters for Buffalo this year. A Ravens loss does all but put us ahead of them for the season.

 

BUT, if the Chiefs win, that is a HUGE W for them and shows that they are adapting while still waiting on their 2 biggest weapons to return. If they beat us in Buffalo, that would put them in the driver seat (although they do have a much tougher schedule). If KC wins Sunday and then beats us here, it could get dicey.

[Mat68]

KC will have a hard road with a tougher Division.  Imo Baltimore starting 1-3 has 0 impact on their ability to win the division.  Pittsburgh, Cincy, Cle is about as difficult as the AFC east. 

[Steptide]

14 hours ago, ganesh said:

We are going ti meet one of them in the playoffs no matter what.  They are still 2 of the 4 b st teams in the conference.  
 

what I would hate to see is one of them in the divisional round. I would rather have one of those two teams come to Buffalo for the AFCC 

I think the Broncos and chargers could make it tough for kc this year, but I agree we'll be playing one of them in the playoffs. Oddly if I absolutely had to choose one of them to play in the playoffs this year (at least at this moment) I think I'd take kc. That streak has just got to end right? And beating them in the playoffs at home would be magic 

[Negan]

Have to root on the Ravens, no brainer decision.

 

IMO, Mahomes is basically Russell Wilson 2.0.  without the refs in his favor he's average at best.  And his decline will continue.  

Edited September 25 by Negan

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Chiefs.  If they are a wildcard they get 0 home games in the playoffs.  Since Mahomes began starting they're 17-4 in the playoffs.  2-0 on the road.  3-2 at neutral sites. and 12-2 at home.  This would force them to win 3 on the road to go to the super bowl, which is more than Mahomes currently has in his career.  

6 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I think the Broncos and chargers could make it tough for kc this year, but I agree we'll be playing one of them in the playoffs. Oddly if I absolutely had to choose one of them to play in the playoffs this year (at least at this moment) I think I'd take kc. That streak has just got to end right? And beating them in the playoffs at home would be magic 

 

Think we still might have to play them in Buffalo this year.  

[Gunvald's Husse]

2 hours ago, Gregg said:

Last year the Bills ... still needed a drop on the two-point conversation to escape with the win.

No. The needed the drop to avoid having to march down the other end and score the game-winning points. There was still 1:33 left when he dropped the ball and is plenty for Josh to get into FG range. And even if it didn;t happen, it was still a tied game. The whole "Andrews' drop prevented the Ravens from winning" narrative is both tired and wrong 

44 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

KC will have a hard road with a tougher Division.  Imo Baltimore starting 1-3 has 0 impact on their ability to win the division.  Pittsburgh, Cincy, Cle is about as difficult as the AFC east. 

I agree that the Ravens are strong favourites to win the division even if they start 1-3 but that last sentence is nonsense. I'd take Pittsburgh, Cinci and Cleveland over the Pats, the Fins and the Jests anytime

[NeverOutNick]

I will always choose a chiefs loss over any other team regardless of the future schedule. I want them to not even make the playoffs this year who cares about the narrative as long as we win a Championship 

[Mat68]

2 minutes ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

No. The needed the drop to avoid having to march down the other end and score the game-winning points. There was still 1:33 left when he dropped the ball and is plenty for Josh to get into FG range. And even if it didn;t happen, it was still a tied game. The whole "Andrews' drop prevented the Ravens from winning" narrative is both tired and wrong 

I agree that the Ravens are strong favourites to win the division even if they start 1-3 but that last sentence is nonsense. I'd take Pittsburgh, Cinci and Cleveland over the Pats, the Fins and the Jests anytime

Splitting hairs.  End of the year records wont be much different amongst them.  Mcdaniels gets fired Miami wins some games late.  

[90sBills]

18 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Splitting hairs.  End of the year records wont be much different amongst them.  Mcdaniels gets fired Miami wins some games late.  

I agree with your take on the AFCN. Baltimore will be the only team coming out of there. Buffalo the only team out of the East. So that leaves 5 more teams out of 8 between the South and West to make the playoffs.
 

As much as everyone is hoping here KC will likely make it even if they lose this game. They will be a much different team in January. Gotta beat them in the playoffs. 

[ColoradoBills]

8 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I agree with your take on the AFCN. Baltimore will be the only team coming out of there. Buffalo the only team out of the East. So that leaves 5 more teams out of 8 between the South and West to make the playoffs.
 

As much as everyone is hoping here KC will likely make it even if they lose this game. They will be a much different team in January. Gotta beat them in the playoffs. 

 

The 3rd team in the West may have less wins than the Patriots after they beat each other up.

New England has a very weak schedule.  

[Cash]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I posted it earlier in the thread but feel like it warrants it’s own post. The Chiefs are currently -200 to make the playoffs. The Ravens are currently -1200. I think that’s important context.

That seems about right. Barring a QB injury, it’s hard for me to imagine the Chiefs missing the playoffs. But damn near impossible to imagine the Ravens missing the playoffs. 

[90sBills]

20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The 3rd team in the West may have less wins than the Patriots after they beat each other up.

New England has a very weak schedule.  

9 wins will get in this year. 

[Southern McButterpants]

As it's always said, the Bills are built to beat KC. Therefore they will struggle against the bigger, more physical, run-oriented Ravens.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 9/24/2025 at 11:43 AM, Einstein said:

 

Henry fumbling? sure.

 

It being a 1 score game? i don’t see it

I think the ravens have lost all benefit of the doubt with regards to the ‘better team on paper is gonna win the game’ argument 

 

their only win over the chiefs in the Lamar era was an even luckier fumble than the Henry one against us lol CEH fumbled while icing out the last minute of a game a few years back and it was the first fumble fumble of his career.  1-5 against the chiefs since Lamar 
 

on paper there’s no way the ravens lose but I have never seen a team where the ‘on paper’ matters less 

 

feels like their roster is historically great but they still lose to the bills and chiefs with regularity 

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think the ravens have lost all benefit of the doubt with regards to the ‘better team on paper is gonna win the game’ argument 

 

their only win over the chiefs in the Lamar era was an even luckier fumble than the Henry one against us lol CEH fumbled while icing out the last minute of a game a few years back and it was the first fumble fumble of his career.  1-5 against the chiefs since Lamar 
 

on paper there’s no way the ravens lose but I have never seen a team where the ‘on paper’ matters less 

 

feels like their roster is historically great but they still lose to the bills and chiefs with regularity 

 

 

I love Lamar. Honestly.

 

However, he is 2-9 against the Bills and Chiefs this decade.

 

...why does no one mention that?

 

Like...ever.

 

 

[mjt328]

Been back and forth on this one.  

 

Barring an injury to #17, the Bills are going to have the AFC East wrapped up by Thanksgiving.  So everything we root for should be about getting the #1 Seed, and the most advantageous playoff matchups.  Also looking at the schedule, it's really hard for me to see the Bills losing more than 3-4 games at the absolute max.  And even that would require a few significant upsets.

 

The Ravens are almost certainly the better team, and losing would put them a whopping 3.5 games back (only 4 games into the season).  But it also gives the reeling Chiefs a boost of confidence.  If they end up winning this game AND then beating us in Week 8, that would put them right back into the mix.. along with a crucial tie-breaker for the #1 seed.

 

On the other hand, if the Chiefs get too far behind in the AFC West... they may be looking at a Wild Card slot behind the Chargers.  Which means we could easily be looking at getting the bye, and then still facing them in the Divisional Round.  Although I still believe we are the superior team to the Chiefs (especially at home), there is a psychological hurdle that we can't seem to get over.

 

Edited September 25 by mjt328

[Johnnycage46]

So, there are a lot of IFs in this take, but, my thinking is:

 

IF the Bills can get to 13-4 final record, a Ravens loss this weekend gives them their 3rd loss, with Buffalo already having played and beat them. The Ravens would need to WIN OUT (assuming Bills 13-4) to pass the Bills. The reason I think this is preferred is that Buffalo still plays KC and has an opportunity to give them their 3rd loss in a few weeks.

 

So, assuming the Bills can get to 13-4 (with one of the Bills wins coming against KC in Buffalo), a Ravens loss this weekend would make the Ravens have to go 13-0 the remainder of the season to pass the Bills and would make the Chiefs go 13-0 (outside of the loss to Buffalo assuming that happens) to pass Buffalo.

 

Again, none of his takes into account what any other AFC team does.

 

 

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

I love Lamar. Honestly.

 

However, he is 2-9 against the Bills and Chiefs this decade.

 

...why does no one mention that?

 

Like...ever.

 

 

 

How was he against the Bills and Chiefs last decade?