Cubanmist 1 Posted September 20 Posted September 20 After the Bills 3rd win, I think there are major areas where they can improve. One is at backup RB, 2nd at WR, and 3rd at Pass Rush. Maybe even another LBer. Bills are direly in need of a force opposite of Bosa. Groot just ain’t it. So, who would you trade for and what would you give up? Also, what position(s) do you think we need? 1 1 6 6 4 1 Quote
Mango Posted September 20 Posted September 20 1. Anybody in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver. 2. Safety 3. Anybody else in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver. 6 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted September 20 Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, Cubanmist 1 said: After the Bills 3rd win, I think there are major areas where they can improve. One is at backup RB, 2nd at WR, and 3rd at Pass Rush. Maybe even another LBer. Bills are direly in need of a force opposite of Bosa. Groot just ain’t it. So, who would you trade for and what would you give up? Also, what position(s) do you think we need? Hey if backup RB is really a top “need” (not sure I would ever agree that a backup RB would ever be considered in that category) then the team is doing really well 6 3 1 Quote
NewEra Posted September 20 Posted September 20 We do not need a new backup RB. Ty is one of the best backups in the league regardless of his inconsistency through 3 games this season. We need to see how the pass rush is once Hoecht and Larry are eligible. If they don’t improve it- then adding another pass rusher would be welcome. I just don’t think we’ll be in the market for one unless Bosa gets injured prior to the trade deadline. I don’t see us adding another WR this season barring injury. I think our WRs will be fine. I think our LBs will be fine. Sure, an upgrade would be nice- but at what cost and will they be able to step in a play the system to McDs standard. Same goes for corner and safety. Tre, Hairston and Strong will likely have to do opposite of Benford. If Benford goes down, maybe we add a corner. If Rapp goes down, maybe we add a safety, but I would think we might give Hancock a shot at it. That said- Beane is usually pretty aggressive in upgrading something at the deadline. 3 2 Quote
T.E. Posted September 20 Posted September 20 We need one of those bruiser backs who is good for nothing other than picking up two yards but who will always get you two yards. I don't even know if they make them anymore, to be honest. 2 1 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) Rousseau is a very good player currently suffering from a bone bruise in his leg that he got late in the Ravens game (which he played pretty well in). I *guarantee* you that it’s affecting his performance. They tend to be very painful. They do heal, though. Edited September 20 by dave mcbride 6 1 4 Quote
K-9 Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Rest. 3 games in 12 days can wear on a team and we looked tired up front. 2 4 1 Quote
SCBills Posted September 20 Posted September 20 I don’t think DL is a need given we have Hoecht and Ogunjobi coming back off suspension in a few weeks. Linebacker, depends what they think of Shaq Thompson. Milano not out long term, but can’t really be counted on. Need to have a solid back up for him.. which could be Shaq. If not, I could see the Bills looking around at LB’ers. Safety apparently requires 10 years of prep to play in our system, so I doubt they make a move there & Corner has Hairston coming back, so not really much to be done there. If we were to make a move before the deadline, the only place I see a true need is a guy to take the top off at WR, but I don’t know that the Bills see this the same way. 2 1 Quote
Cubanmist 1 Posted September 20 Author Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Rousseau is a very good player currently suffering from a bone bruise in his leg suffered late in the Ravens game (which he played pretty well in). I *guarantee* you that it’s affecting his performance. They tend to be very painful. They do heal, though. There seems to be something that we need at defense. Meanwhile, Ray Davis looks to be out of shape. At WR, we have no true separators. 7 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Hey if backup RB is really a top “need” (not sure I would ever agree that a backup RB would ever be considered in that category) then the team is doing really well 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I don’t think DL is a need given we have Hoecht and Ogunjobi coming back off suspension in a few weeks. Linebacker, depends what they think of Shaq Thompson. Milano not out long term, but can’t really be counted on. Need to have a solid back up for him.. which could be Shaq. If not, I could see the Bills looking around at LB’ers. Safety apparently requires 10 years of prep to play in our system, so I doubt they make a move there & Corner has Hairston coming back, so not really much to be done there. If we were to make a move before the deadline, the only place I see a true need is a guy to take the top off at WR, but I don’t know that the Bills see this the same way. Do you think Ogunjobi will stick? I feel he’ll get traded. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted September 20 Posted September 20 2 minutes ago, Cubanmist 1 said: There seems to be something that we need at defense. Meanwhile, Ray Davis looks to be out of shape. At WR, we have no true separators. Do you think Ogunjobi will stick? I feel he’ll get traded. Ogunjobi was really good in our style defense. Miscast in recent years. But who knows what he is now. I just think he “could” be good here and it would be a big leap of faith to depend on two rookies at DT in a rotation heavy DL, one of them having a back issue last year and our starting DT being an older player. Quote
Special K Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Too bad Arizona is 2-0, because I would love to put Budda Baker next to Bishop at the Safety position. 4 1 Quote
First Round Bust Posted September 20 Posted September 20 pass rush - organic DL not the blitz variety - besides the 13 seconds travesty, this has been the overall biggest weakness-challenge of the McD defense, will mask the below average play of the post Hyde-Poyer safeties, and high third down converions...god help us 2 1 Quote
Augie Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) 6 hours ago, NewEra said: We do not need a new backup RB. Ty is one of the best backups in the league regardless of his inconsistency through 3 games this season. We need to see how the pass rush is once Hoecht and Larry are eligible. If they don’t improve it- then adding another pass rusher would be welcome. I just don’t think we’ll be in the market for one unless Bosa gets injured prior to the trade deadline. I don’t see us adding another WR this season barring injury. I think our WRs will be fine. I think our LBs will be fine. Sure, an upgrade would be nice- but at what cost and will they be able to step in a play the system to McDs standard. Same goes for corner and safety. Tre, Hairston and Strong will likely have to do opposite of Benford. If Benford goes down, maybe we add a corner. If Rapp goes down, maybe we add a safety, but I would think we might give Hancock a shot at it. That said- Beane is usually pretty aggressive in upgrading something at the deadline. Let’s play a fun game and list all the NFL teams that do not have some type of need(s) as perceived by their fans. Well, THAT was fun! You do the best you can with what you have, and you never have everything you want. Yes, we have some thin spots for sure, but overall I like our roster and potential.* *EDIT: I really love our potential late in the year on D if we have everyone healthy and available. That could be fun for a change, though you can never be deep enough at DB. . Edited September 20 by Augie 4 1 2 Quote
Rubes Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) 42 minutes ago, T.E. said: We need one of those bruiser backs who is good for nothing other than picking up two yards but who will always get you two yards. I don't even know if they make them anymore, to be honest. That guy for the Dolphins that gave us fits was kind of like that. He would have looked great in a Bills uni. EDIT: Ollie Gordon II...rookie, 6'1, 225lbs. Edited September 20 by Rubes 1 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted September 20 Posted September 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mango said: 1. Anybody in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver. 2. Safety 3. Anybody else in the front 7 not named Bosa or Oliver. 3 games into the season, 3 rookie DL and two FA DL on suspension - I think things will improve as the rookies gain some experience and Hoecht and Ogunjobi return. Pass rush needs a little help in the form of pass coverage. Playing soft zone due to secondary personnel doesn’t help the rush at all. Edited September 20 by OldTimer1960 4 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 20 Posted September 20 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: 3 games into the season, 3 rookie DL and two FA DL on suspension - I think thinking’s will improve as the rookies gain some experience and Hoecht and Ogunjobi return. Pass rush needs a little help in the form of pass coverage. Playing soft zone due to secondary personnel doesn’t help the rush at all. It's supposed to start from the DL first. If they pressure, it allows the zone coverage to collapse on the receivers. But if there is no pass rush, the dbs are naked on an island. It's the Dlines responsibility to do their job first. Very rarely do you get coverage sacks. 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 20 Posted September 20 2 hours ago, Cubanmist 1 said: After the Bills 3rd win, I think there are major areas where they can improve. One is at backup RB, 2nd at WR, and 3rd at Pass Rush. Maybe even another LBer. Bills are direly in need of a force opposite of Bosa. Groot just ain’t it. So, who would you trade for and what would you give up? Also, what position(s) do you think we need? A bit early to give up on RB&WR2 on a team scoring 30 points a game. LB with MM back seems fine with DW and ST bringing value. Pass rush remains an issue hopefully Ed and the suspension guys will help. Trades in season are relatively few, but far too early for anything drastic at 3-0. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Rousseau will find himself. Him and Oliver have always been streaky players. When he’s on point he’s dangerous. Plus his run defense is arguably better than his pass rushing because of those long arms. He is great at setting the edge. It would be really shortsighted to get rid of him. 2 1 Quote
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