Turbo44 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 I think if Prater kicks well the next couple of games you keep bass on IR as long as you can. If it means season long IF I’m okay with it. Big 47 yarder at the end of game. Wrong decision by McDermott cuz if he misses it, mia gets the ball on the 37. I punt there and hope to pin them on the 10. ended up fine, but I still think it was the wrong decision 2 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 19 Posted September 19 44 minutes ago, Brand J said: Someone in the GDT said they had never seen a kick that bad. They must have missed the Bass chip shot against the Steelers in the playoffs that sliced wiiiiiiide left. THAT was the ugliest kick I’ve ever seen. How about Bass's kick against Miami last year? 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 19 Posted September 19 He's 9/9 on xpts He's 7/8 (88%) on fgs with a 48 and 52 yarder. He's had 3 career seasons kicking 90%. He shanks one kick and everyone starts losing it....just stop....I'm riding Prater the rest of the season. I lost faith in Bass when he missed that KC kick. We way overpaid him on that extension. 4 4 1 Quote
ticketssince61 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 2 hours ago, NickelCity said: Prater has earned one mulligan as far as I'm concerned. That mulligan almost cost us the Win - and totally changed the entire momentum of the game - it gave the Dolphins hope as opposed to being totally deflated I think if he made that FG - Bills win handily 2 Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted September 19 Posted September 19 1 minute ago, ticketssince61 said: That mulligan almost cost us the Win - and totally changed the entire momentum of the game - it gave the Dolphins hope as opposed to being totally deflated I think if he made that FG - Bills win handily It didnt help, but the Bills not being able to get off the field on 3rd down was the killer. Giving Josh the ball a couple more times wouldve put the game out of reach much sooner. 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted September 19 Posted September 19 2 hours ago, The Gravytrain said: Here's the deal with Prater. It's like golf. Prater plays a fade. Every kick fades. Almost all of his FGs and XPs have been a fade from the left hash mark. When Josh got sacked it was on the right side, but the refs marked it in the middle. So Prater, like a golfer, was thinking I can't fade. and he over cooked it. That's all that was. A guy thinking donlt push it right and he over compensated. That was my initial thought. Guy had been hitting a fade and then he's facing the tee shot that demands the draw. Hit one like that yesterday at Torrey. Lol 2 1 Quote
BillsFooteball Posted September 19 Posted September 19 It was a horrendous miss but Prater has been incredible making all the rest and all extra points. An established vet that didn’t let the terrible miss get in his head as he iced the game 2 1 1 Quote
H2o Posted September 19 Posted September 19 6 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Honestly, unless our kicker goes 50/50 from 50+ yards, people here are gonna overreact no matter what. MVP Mark Moseley could be kicking and folks would still cry about it. Bass has a higher career FG% than four-time Super Bowl champ and three-time All-Pro Adam Vinatieri, for *****’s sake. What the ***** else do we want? He missed a couple XPs and FGs - it ***** happens. Again, who do you trust more? Bass' FG% in the Playoffs dips to 70%. And we all remember him missing that crunch-time kick against KC a couple years ago. Prater is 92.3% in the Playoffs. He has missed one FG attempt out of 13 and is 19 of 20 on EP's. I say we ride with Prater unless he looks like he loses the job. 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 19 Posted September 19 7 hours ago, Walking Tall said: None. This is Bass’s job. Why? He isnt reliable. Quote
RyanC883 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 8 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Im all Prater all the way. I think he must have slipped on the one. The guy hasn’t missed a kick in a year and a half. I’m willing to assume that one was a slip. Nailed a big one at the end to seal it. All Prater. Idw to see bass again something looked off pre kick. Like he was not settled, could have led to him slipping. 1 Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted September 19 Posted September 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: something looked off pre kick. Like he was not settled, could have led to him slipping. Watched the replay. He looked fine on setup, ball was dead center, he just missed it badly. It happens. Edited September 19 by PayDaBill$ Quote
muppy Posted September 19 Posted September 19 (edited) 8 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I appreciate the wishful thinking, but that didn’t look like a slip. I would love to have him explain what happened, because he shanked that horrendously. It would be interesting to hear his take in it It appeared the hold was fine. Kickers need a "cornerback mentality" and not allow a miss even a bad one like that to get stuck in their head Edited September 19 by muppy 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Yes that was an ugly miss. But Prater shook it off. A miss like that and Bass is in a 3 week funk. A kicker is a lot like a golfer. Need perfect mechanics without thinking. But for as long as I've golfed and practiced my swing, every once and a while I shank one off the tee. It happens. The key is Prater is a vet, stayed calm and nailed the rest of his attempts. Plus he will have all the practice and game reps with Johnston as the holder. Let's not shake something up if it's working. 3 2 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted September 19 Posted September 19 (edited) People want perfection. You're not getting it. The longest FG streak in NFL history is 44. No kicker is 100%. Edited September 19 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
KingBoots8 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Ultimately, it depends if/when Bass is ready. Prater had one bad kick but he’s been money on all the others. There are at least 5 other teams who would take Prater over their current kicker, so holding onto him as long as he’s healthy is a boon. If Bass is ready by week 8 we could potentially trade Prater and keep Bass, or put Bass on season ending IR and keep Prater for the season. Bass is your long term answer for now, and until we have one waiting in the wings I think it’s foolish to move on. Prater is 41, so don’t plan on him being here long. Quote
Epstein's Mother Posted September 19 Posted September 19 8 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: You philistines just don’t understand the artistry behind Prater’s kick tonight, which was clearly meant as a postmodern subversion on the notion of prescriptive success through the lens of goalposts. “What if the ‘good’ kick were somewhere over here?” asks the artist, “ten yards to the left”. “Isn’t there an equally valid world where THIS is worth your precious three points while the straight kick is valueless?” If that kick was artwork I would throw tomato soup on it and glue my hand to it. 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted September 19 Posted September 19 at least extra points aren't an adventure every time. prater can stay. bass can practice the ONE thing he's gotta do for an entire season. 1 Quote
MJS Posted September 19 Posted September 19 I think Bass is better at the new kickoffs, for that's worth. Prater doesn't get it deep enough in the landing zone. Quote
Marcus Aurelius Posted September 19 Posted September 19 9 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: You philistines just don’t understand the artistry behind Prater’s kick tonight, which was clearly meant as a postmodern subversion on the notion of prescriptive success through the lens of goalposts. “What if the ‘good’ kick were somewhere over here?” asks the artist, “ten yards to the left”. “Isn’t there an equally valid world where THIS is worth your precious three points while the straight kick is valueless?” Indeed ... "He skipped the light fandango Turned cartwheels 'cross the floor Was feeling kinda seasick But the crowd called out for more ..." 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 19 Posted September 19 9 hours ago, PayDaBill$ said: Idk but that was a horrendous kick tonight Bass has had those too. Every other kick by Prater has been down the middle i believe. I think we likely stick with Bass. 1 Quote
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