JA - AFC Offensive Player of the Week

[DapperCam]

17 minutes ago, chris heff said:

This place never ceases to amaze me. An obscure reference to a song from the 1946 musical, “Annie Get Your Gun”. 

My generation knows it from an iconic Mia Hamm vs Michael Jordan Gatorade commercial.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I can’t stand the NFL for rarely ever voting 2 players from the same to win the award on O and D.

 

ED was 💯 robbed!  Olukoun won the award on D while playing against the powerhouse Panthers….

 

He had 6 tackles- 4 assists-  1 Int off of a tipped pass and a forced fumble.  
 

Ed single handedly won the game for the Bills on the defensive side of the ball while getting very little help from anyone else.  Pretty sure was the only reason the ravens punted even once.  Forced the game winning fumble and held them to a long FG with his sack on the first drive.  While the ravens scored 40, Ed was the 2nd best player on the field for both teams behind 17.  
 

Henry and Lamar are better players, but neither were better on Sunday imo.  Henry went untouched most of the game.

No doubt he did but I never remember a defensive player of the week award going to a defense that gave up 40 points.

[Mark Vader]

23 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

My generation knows it from an iconic Mia Hamm vs Michael Jordan Gatorade commercial.

I know it from Bugs Bunny & Yosemite Sam.

[finn]

53 minutes ago, Southern McButterpants said:

Yeah, every single Ravens fan on my social media feed. 

Are they really claiming Allen is not elite? Do they think he is, what, above average? Mediocre?

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Mark Vader said:

As if there was any question.

I mean... This decision couldn't be any easier.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

In other news today, the sun did rise as scheduled!

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

That is kind of true about Jackson.   There is no other QB that can do everything that Jackson can do.  He does have a certain ability in pure running and throwing that others don't have.  Where I'd argue Allen differs is he has a stronger arm and he may not quite have the speed of Jackson, but he is much stronger and can power his way through tackles in ways Jackson can't. So he also has certain skills that no one else has, just not identical to Jackson

 

I'd say they both have a couple of skills better than the other and if I were going to assign value to those skills IMO Allen would end up with a slightly better overall score with the big one Allen being able to make what appears to be impossible throws.

[HOUSE]

Too bad you left early

 

 

[H2o]

1 hour ago, chris heff said:

This place never ceases to amaze me. An obscure reference to a song from the 1946 musical, “Annie Get Your Gun”. Can anyone connect the dots here? Who was Annie and what made her famous?

Connect the dots? No. We may have someone who can connect the data points though.   (For those of you who will get my obscure reference)

[Draconator]

1 hour ago, chris heff said:

Who was Annie and what made her famous?

Porn?

[Dr. K]

2 hours ago, chris heff said:

This place never ceases to amaze me. An obscure reference to a song from the 1946 musical, “Annie Get Your Gun”. Can anyone connect the dots here? Who was Annie and what made her famous?

Annie Oakley (1860-1926)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Oakley

 

She played for the original Buffalo Bill. 

Edited September 10 by Dr. K

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It’s getting tougher to find any faults at all…Lamar has kinda been ascending the same way it’s awesome to see both those guys prove everyone wrong about everything haha 

 

 

What I find really awesome -- and ironic -- is that both of these QBs came out of the same draft class, and that 2 QB-needy teams passed on Allen and 3 or more QB-needy teams passed on Lamar.  Most drafts don't produce even 1 great QB.  Outstanding franchise QBs come along maybe every third draft or so, although most drafts do product one or two good starting QBs.   I think that the 2018 QB draft is going to come close to the legendary 1983 draft that produced 3 HOFers (Elway, Kelly, Marino) plus a couple of other solid starters.  Allen and Lamar are future HOFers, and Baker and even Darnold have become quality starters.   For a long time, I thought that the 2004 QB class was 2nd best with Eli, Rivers, and Roethlisberger likely future HOFers, too, but none of these three were ever close to Allen and Lamar. 

 

What Allen and Lamar have done and do on the field is simply beyond what even the greats of 1983 ever did.   They've changed the game with some help from their nemesis, Mahomes (QB class of 2017).   Teams are now looking for great passers who can also run like RBs first rather than dismissing them. While the era of the QB who ran only under duress was fading away for couple of decades, Allen and Lamar made them extinct.  Tom Brady was probably the last of the great QBs who rarely ran.

 

Allen has also put to lie the belief that QBs cannot become more accurate passers as pros.   In that respect, he's a little better than Lamar IMO because he had to overcome so much more from a mechanics standpoint as well as learning to master his own emotions on the field.

 

 

 

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

Porn?

Yes, porn and guns, “ Who could ask for anything more?”.

Edited September 10 by chris heff

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, chris heff said:

This place never ceases to amaze me. An obscure reference to a song from the 1946 musical, “Annie Get Your Gun”. Can anyone connect the dots here? Who was Annie and what made her famous?

The Annie in question is Annie Oakley, famous for her ability to shoot a rifle both in contests or just for sheer entertainment shows. 

[The Wiz]

And he didn't even have to play the fins to win it. 🤣

 

There's always next week Thursday.

[GASabresIUFan]

I guess Lamar and Henry split the vote enabling Josh to slide in. 😜

[Tim Tindale]

3 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

I know it from Bugs Bunny & Yosemite Sam.

Kid N’ Play, The Battle scene, House Party. 

[chris heff]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

The Annie in question is Annie Oakley, famous for her ability to shoot a rifle both in contests or just for sheer entertainment shows. 

Yes, that is correct, but which entertainment show?

[billsbackto81]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

No doubt he did but I never remember a defensive player of the week award going to a defense that gave up 40 points.

Solid point 

[WinterSoldier17]