Dwayne Carter Out for the Season

[H2o]

Tough for the young man. I hope he makes a full recovery. That being said, I don't thing he was going to contribute any meaningful minutes unless he had taken a big step forward. I hadn't seen any reports from camp or play in the Preseaon to suggest that he has. Still, you hate to lose your depth guys because they are just one play away from being forced into meaningful action. 

[NoSaint]

Seems like a good guy, so hate to see it - but this is very possibly the end of his bills career. Maybe even his nfl career. He doesn’t have much good tape, and even 2026 isn’t going to be great for him as he will still be recovering and lacking athleticism if he does get another shot. That leaves him a 4th year mid round pick with bad tape before he’s 100%? 

Edited September 1 by NoSaint

[bearstobills]

13 hours ago, ngbills said:

Imagine this team if more of our draft picks from the 1-3 rounds the past few years were bigger contributors…
 

First 3 Rounds only

The 2021 class yielded 2 key starters (Rousseau and Spencer Brown) and a miss in Boogie.

The 2022 class yielded 2 key starter (Cook and T. Bernard) and a miss (Elam)-which was accounted for with a 6th round hit (Benford) 

The 2023 class yielded 2 starters (Kincaid, Cybo) and a key rotational player (Dorian Williams)

The 2024 class is your this year's starting wide receiver and safety (Coleman and Bishop) and your DL5 who we'll call a miss.

 

That's 8 starters out of 12 picks and Dorian Williams (one of my favorites).  

We pick near the last of each round. Round 3 picks are near #100.

 

But narratives are fun and don't require facts.    

 

 

[streetkings01]

17 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

What is with this team ?

The same as the other 31 teams…..we just not registered on their message boards so we don’t know what’s going on with them.

[zow2]

I’ve already mentioned how devastating it is for the man personally.  He may never be able to prove himself and he seemed like a great dude and fun person.

 

But i’m sorry to say the pick is likely another bust on Beane’s resume. 

[MikePJ76]

Bummer.  Not shocked at all to see the general opinion here is ahh who cares he sucks.

 

I still have and had hope for him.  

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Why did Beane draft a player from Duke ?

 

Nothing good will ever come from that

[Albany,n.y.]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

They (Bills Media) don't break anything.  No one was aware Carter tore his achilles? Unless he is the toughest human of all time you don't simply walk off the field.  Might as well all be paid NFL employees at this point.  Just an extension of the Bills PR department.  

The practice was most likely closed to the media.  

[ngbills]

39 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

First 3 Rounds only

The 2021 class yielded 2 key starters (Rousseau and Spencer Brown) and a miss in Boogie.

The 2022 class yielded 2 key starter (Cook and T. Bernard) and a miss (Elam)-which was accounted for with a 6th round hit (Benford) 

The 2023 class yielded 2 starters (Kincaid, Cybo) and a key rotational player (Dorian Williams)

The 2024 class is your this year's starting wide receiver and safety (Coleman and Bishop) and your DL5 who we'll call a miss.

 

That's 8 starters out of 12 picks and Dorian Williams (one of my favorites).  

We pick near the last of each round. Round 3 picks are near #100.

 

But narratives are fun and don't require facts.    

 

 

I was thinking about the past three years and see it different. 
 

2025

Hairston is hurt and who knows when he will contribute. Sanders and Jackson may get rotational snaps. 
2024

Coleman and Bishop are both fringe starters. They don’t progress this year and both could be upgraded next season. Carter is out for the year and was fighting to see the field anyway. 
2023 

Torrence is the best pick of these years in terms of being a legit starter. Kincaid has not been anywhere close to what he was expected to be. Williams is just a jag. 
 

My point was this is a Super Bowl favorite and not one of these picks from the last three years has been a home run or even a triple. Mostly single and doubles. Maybe Kincaid or Coleman break out this year. A legit start would be make this team that much more scary. 

[Sierra Foothills]

16 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

All the conspiracy theorists who were doubting the validity of the report need to knock it off.  

 

16 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Or else?

 

11 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

The people who always want more proof about valid stories end up looking foolish.  

 

Outside of the garbage I see on Facebook, people don't usually report fake stories that someone tore their achilles & is out for the season, especially a guy who outside of Bills Mafia is pretty obscure to the general public. 

 

Albany, you're a good poster but I don't fully agree with you here.

 

It's amazing how much crap is posted on this board... many people these days are completely gullible to fake stories and don't question the credibility of sources.

 

Like @chris heff, I immediately questioned the veracity of the story for the same reasons... every report cited Jordan Schultz as the source, meaning that no one was corroborating it. Not being familiar with Jordan Schultz I was not ready to accept the report.

 

One looks more foolish by accepting and even worse, commenting (and overreacting) on fake stories which do appear on these pages.

 

[bearstobills]

15 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I was thinking about the past three years and see it different. 
 

2025

Hairston is hurt and who knows when he will contribute. Sanders and Jackson may get rotational snaps. 
2024

Coleman and Bishop are both fringe starters. They don’t progress this year and both could be upgraded next season. Carter is out for the year and was fighting to see the field anyway. 
2023 

Torrence is the best pick of these years in terms of being a legit starter. Kincaid has not been anywhere close to what he was expected to be. Williams is just a jag. 
 

My point was this is a Super Bowl favorite and not one of these picks from the last three years has been a home run or even a triple. Mostly single and doubles. Maybe Kincaid or Coleman break out this year. A legit start would be make this team that much more scary. 

Just so you know the big bad Chiefs in that same period;

2021: Traded a 1rst round pick for average Orlando Brown who is no longer on the team

2022: Drafted Sky Moore in the 2nd round

2023: Drafted Feliz-Anduike-I NEVER PLAY in the first round and Wanya Morris in the 3rd

2024: Drafted Kingsley Suamataia (barely saw the field last year)  in the 2nd round

And that's not to mention Claude Edwards Helaire in the first round the year before.

 

As for home runs and triples, like the Chiefs, we have our hits.  If Spencer Brown isn't a triple in the 3rd, and Cook isn't a triple in the 2nd, I don't know what to tell you. 

[mannc]

6 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

Just so you know the big bad Chiefs in that same period;

2021: Traded a 1rst round pick for average Orlando Brown who is no longer on the team

2022: Drafted Sky Moore in the 2nd round

2023: Drafted Feliz-Anduike-I NEVER PLAY in the first round and Wanya Morris in the 3rd

2024: Drafted Kingsley Suamataia (barely saw the field last year)  in the 2nd round

And that's not to mention Claude Edwards Helaire in the first round the year before.

 

As for home runs and triples, like the Chiefs, we have our hits.  If Spencer Brown isn't a triple in the 3rd, and Cook isn't a triple in the 2nd, I don't know what to tell you. 

Not to mention Christian Benford in the sixth round…

[Dillenger4]

I guess we will see Walker a lot more behind Phillips. I don't mind that scenario.

Hope Carter can recover well and get back to football.

[bearstobills]

Just now, mannc said:

Not to mention Christian Benford in the sixth round…

ngbills was talking about the first 3 rounds.  Beane  has to be one of the best day 3 drafters out there.  That's where he got Taron Johnson, Christian Benford, Khalil Shakir, Ray Davis, Tylan Grabel, Wyatt Teller, SVP, Javon Solomon, Gabe Davis.  And look out for Hancock, Deone Walker, Dorian Strong, Jackson Hawes, etc.

 

In no way am I arguing that he doesn't have his misses.  He does.  But, and this is a tough one to grasp, two things can be true simultaneously.  1.) Beane has continually displayed a good eye for talent across the draft, free agency, and in trades.  AND 2.) He's made some missteps along the way that he'd like to have back.

 

But there's one thing we can't argue; The Bills have a top 3 record in the NFL since he took over.  And don't give me the "It's all Josh Allen" crap.  If that were the case Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert would be in the playoffs every year.  And both of those teams struggle.  

[uticaclub]

4 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

But there's one thing we can't argue; The Bills have a top 3 record in the NFL since he took over.  And don't give me the "It's all Josh Allen" crap.  If that were the case Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert would be in the playoffs every year.  And both of those teams struggle.  

And that’s why Josh is held in much higher regard than Burrow & Herbert.

 

Let’s see Burrow put up those numbers with Kincaid & Coleman

[bearstobills]

Just now, uticaclub said:

And that’s why Josh is held in much higher regard than Burrow & Herbert.

 

Let’s see Burrow put up those numbers with Kincaid & Coleman

You hold him in higher regard.  I believe ESPN just ranked Burrow as the #1 QB in the NFL.  I think he'd be just fine with Coleman and Kincaid.  You speak as if both Coleman and Kincaid are bad players.  I have high hopes for both.

[BarleyNY]

If I had to choose one of the Bills 53 to have a season ending injury the day after cut downs, Carter would’ve been in my top 5. Seems like barely any real loss for the team. 

[benderbender]

Feel awful for him. I assume that being drafted 95th overall weighs heavy on him. Add to that they drafted heavy this year, you'd think that he was driven to show his worth this season especially. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

19 hours ago, Mat68 said:

What do the local reporters do?  Everything news worthy comes from national guys.  Crickets all weekend.  Hard to believe with the Ravens in 7 days the team has the weekend off.    

They’re busy putting together puff pieces or rehashing training camp news from a week ago. They pretty much suck.  Stick with some of the more well known podcast guys for better information 

[BullBuchanan]

19 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Tough break for the kid.  We’ll likely never know what he could have become for us.

I think we know what he was - a bust. He failed to even flash potential.