Bills cuts discussion

[dave mcbride]

How many more do they have to cut at this point?

[Pete]

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

So guys who haven't been cut yet that everyone expects: 

 

RB: Frank Gore

WR: Deon Cain, Kristian Wilkerson

TE: Zach Davidson 

DE: Paris Shand

DT: Jordan Phillips(PS), Zion Logue

LB: Keonta Jenkins

 

 

I think the Bills only have 5 LB.  If we cut Jenkins, 4 is awfully thin imo

[BullBuchanan]

Well, with Forrest now released, I restate my critique about Beane not bringing in serious Safety competition.

[MPL]

Just now, Pete said:

2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

So guys who haven't been cut yet that everyone expects: 

 

RB: Frank Gore

WR: Deon Cain, Kristian Wilkerson

TE: Zach Davidson 

DE: Paris Shand

DT: Jordan Phillips(PS), Zion Logue

LB: Keonta Jenkins

 

 

I think the Bills only have 5 LB.  If we cut Jenkins, 4 is awfully thin imo

You're forgetting Shaq Thompson

[gonzo1105]

Just now, Pete said:

I think the Bills only have 5 LB.  If we cut Jenkins, 4 is awfully thin imo

 

Milano, Bernard, Andreessen, Dorian Williams, Shaq Thompson is your 5 for now. 

Just now, MPL said:

You're forgetting Shaq Thompson

 

I expect Thompson to make it.....for now 

[billybob71]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

I believe its mostly worked out.  You are correct though, the intensity cranks up, sifting through other teams cuts

And imagine what the bubble guys are feeling

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

I think the Bills only have 5 LB.  If we cut Jenkins, 4 is awfully thin imo

There will be a ton of guys available by this evening.

[True Blue]

1 minute ago, jwhit34 said:

Cody Ford has played over 80 games in the league, most of them as a starter. He also was a key component in the trade up for the 2018 draft and that pick was then packaged in the trade up for #7 which resulted in Josh Allen. So that wasn't too bad.

 

Singletary was a mid round 3rd who has over 5,700 career yards from scrimmage.

 

Epenesa was #54 overall and will probably play 10 years in the NFL. Solid player, not a waste.

 

Basham is the worst pick. Moss was 86th overall. Not the best pick but still in the league. I'll give you that one. 

 

I still say that's an excellent track record. 

4 of those players are no longer on this team, if they were good enough, most of them if not all, would still be on this team

[gonzo1105]

Just now, billybob71 said:

And imagine what the bubble guys are feeling

 

It sucks for the guys on the bubble for sure but I think the worst is you make the initial 53 only to be a cut a day or two later for another guy. That would be soul crushing for me.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

And imagine what the bubble guys are feeling

Im nervous for them!  LOL Im rooting hard for Shavers.  Ciaro too.  Im big fans of both

[Brand J]

It is kind of odd that SVPG has missed months of practice on the PUP list and all of a sudden becomes available shortly before cuts?

[True Blue]

9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

It’s not he’s missed a bunch of top 5 picks. Constantly picking 30 means you are not getting blue chip talent typically 

Tell that to Eagles GM Howie Roseman and Ravens GM Eric DeCosta just to name a few teams who draft late like us every season. Unlike Beane, those GM's find blue chip talent way more than Beane does

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:

Cody Ford has played over 80 games in the league, most of them as a starter. He also was a key component in the trade up for the 2018 draft and that pick was then packaged in the trade up for #7 which resulted in Josh Allen. So that wasn't too bad.

 

Singletary was a mid round 3rd who has over 5,700 career yards from scrimmage.

 

Epenesa was #54 overall and will probably play 10 years in the NFL. Solid player, not a waste.

 

Basham is the worst pick. Moss was 86th overall. Not the best pick but still in the league. I'll give you that one. 

 

I still say that's an excellent track record. 

 

Cordy Glenn was the player traded to the Bengals to take the Bills from pick 21 to 12 in 2018. Cody Ford was drafted in 2019 in early round 2 in an early attempt to build the offensive line in front of Josh Allen. He was traded to the Cardinals for a 5th. He's actually found a home with the Bengals in 2023-2024 as he started 9 games last year and signed a two year extension. 

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

It is kind of odd that SVPG has missed months of practice on the PUP list and all of a sudden becomes available shortly before cuts?

If you go to IR before the final cuts you cant return this season.   Maybe they wanted to move him off of PUP to put him on IR after the final cuts. 

[Matt_In_NH]

5 minutes ago, Pete said:

  Ciaro too

too late

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Ill start....Dane Jackson

 

 

 

 

This actually surprises me quite a bit.  Somewhat implies that they're happy with both Hairston and Tre White I think.
 

Jackson has played teams (though I have no opinion on how well) in the past when not starting.

 

 

[mannc]

8 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

Cordy Glenn was the player traded to the Bengals to take the Bills from pick 21 to 12 in 2018. Cody Ford was drafted in 2019 in early round 2 in an early attempt to build the offensive line in front of Josh Allen. He was traded to the Cardinals for a 5th. He's actually found a home with the Bengals in 2023-2024 as he started 9 games last year and signed a two year extension. 

IIRC, the fifth we got from the Cardinals for Ford turned out to be a good player, but I don’t remember who it was. (Scratch that…it turned into Justin Shorter.)

Edited August 26 by mannc

[Buffalo716]

11 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

4 of those players are no longer on this team, if they were good enough, most of them if not all, would still be on this team

That's just not really how it works in the NFL with the salary cap and moving rosters 

 

People like Devin singletary are good running backs they have 5,000 yards in the league.. third round pick that is tremendous value 

 

 

[zow2]

8 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

Tell that to Eagles GM Howie Roseman and Ravens GM Eric DeCosta just to name a few teams who draft late like us every season. Unlike Beane, those GM's find blue chip talent way more than Beane does

 

As much as it pains me, we are not the Eagles when it comes to drafting D and D linemen specifically.

[MarlinTheMagician]

Hope they don't give up on Carter or Shavers.  C'mon boys.