billsfan89 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Have the breakouts of the contract leaked? I would project that this is likely an out with some dead cap in year 3 of the extension and a low dead cap in year 4. So likely a 3 year commitment. Always risky with RB's but the Bills have the Super Bowl window to try to squeeze through and you can't let a talented player walk over dead cap 3 years from now. 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 23 minutes ago, QB Bills said: The circular logic here is hilarious.  Because Beane keeps blowing every skilled position draft pick, a two down back who can't pass block and plays less than half the snaps is by default their best weapon (outside of qb of course).  Therefore, because he's their best weapon, this is a great deal. 🤣🤣  I honestly feel bad for Josh. He's keeping most of these buffoons employed here, otherwise they'd all be back in Carolina doing jobs more suited to their qualifications. Stick to Tecmo Bowl 1 2 1 Quote
WNYFAN1 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Stick to Tecmo Bowl Well that would be easier. Sign Bo Jackson and you literally wouldn't need a single other player! 3 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Stick to Tecmo Bowl Cook would be awesome in tecmo bowl...Get the corner and goodbye... Â Â 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: It seems like a fair deal on face value for both sides, and Cook gets a bit more guaranteed money to hang his hat on. It's not "team friendly" but it isn't outrageous at all.  Signing a player is always a value proposition. Cook has very few snaps on his body compared to similar RBs going into a 2nd year contract, and he's excellent at maximizing his opportunities at the position.  I'm surprised anyone is actually upset with the signing. "Meh" I understand, but being mad that we retained a speedster with a unique ability to run between the tackles very efficiently is wild. Haters are going to hate.  It’s not rational.   I don’t know how well the deal will workout, but I suspect it be fine.  Assuming he stays healthy, I can easily see us getting 3 good years from him.  If that happens, the contract will be a bargain.  Remember he had a light work load in college leaving more tread on the tire for the NFL.  The presence of Davis and Johnson lessen Cook’s work load as well and imho make it more likely he’ll stay healthy and be a major contributor over the life of the deal.   I’m glad this is over and find it funny that there are many posts already trying to trade Cook.  1 1 1 Quote
bigduke6 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So I've asked this before but no one answers this - why is it Cook's deal that makes it so they can't sign their OLine? Why isn't it Shakir's deal, or Benford's deal, or Groot's deal? Why is Cook the one that prevents them from making those deals? mostly because if Cook doesnt have a dominate run OLine in front of him, i dont think he puts up those numbers, and doesnt get paid like this. so sacrificing a top tier OLine because Cook wanted to be overpaid puts the team in a bad spot. has nothing to do with the other skill positions. i dont believe anybody else to be overpaid at the moment.  Quote
SCBills Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I do think we need to see Cook utilized more in the passing game now.  Hes a way better runner than I ever though he would be, but he was drafted as a pass catcher and if we truly want to maximize this contract, he should be used like Alvin Kamara was in his prime. 3 3 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  Let's see how Cybo plays this year. I think he has been fine. I don't yet think he is someone I am rushing to pay. If he has a good year and it willing to take a reasonably team friendly deal I'm in. But if he wants to be in the $15m and over tier of guard deals I'm letting him play out year four before I even think about that. That's fair.  I am personally high on Cybo as I think he is a good, ascending player. Needs to improve against some of those twitchy 3 Techs a bit, and sometimes has a hard time picking up the right blitzer.  But loving his trajectory and I think he's about to have a big year. (I hope lol) 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: mostly because if Cook doesnt have a dominate run OLine in front of him, i dont think he puts up those numbers, and doesnt get paid like this. so sacrificing a top tier OLine because Cook wanted to be overpaid puts the team in a bad spot. has nothing to do with the other skill positions. i dont believe anybody else to be overpaid at the moment.   Our backup TE is set to make $14.5M this year and $17M next year. We pay Samuel $9M to be WR4 role player. We just handed Hoecht $7M/yr to sit out suspended. Ed Oliver is good and all but set to make $25M next year.  There's a lot of other money to worry about than $12M for what Cook brings to the table.  To the flip side:  We have our Franchise QB locked up We have our OTs locked up We do not have any major WRs who will command $30M or even $20M We just got all the other major extensions done. The cap is skyrocketing every season with streaming money (a huge $25M jump that last couple of years) We have other guys we can restructure IOL is in the same underpaid boat as RB.  To @Ya Digg?'s point, there is no need to worry about this $12M contract.  Edited August 13 by DrDawkinstein 6 3 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Â I love James Cook. Â I'm so happy for him and the Bills 3 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:  Great video but man Chris Brown’s calls are just brutal sometimes 3 Quote
SCBills Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: mostly because if Cook doesnt have a dominate run OLine in front of him, i dont think he puts up those numbers, and doesnt get paid like this. so sacrificing a top tier OLine because Cook wanted to be overpaid puts the team in a bad spot. has nothing to do with the other skill positions. i dont believe anybody else to be overpaid at the moment.  Dawkins and Brown are locked up long term.  I think the plan is probably to do the same with Torrence if he progresses like how they think he will this year.   Young, drafted player who they can extend 4 years, maybe with some void years.  My guess is the Cook contract makes it tough, but not impossible, to extend McGovern and/or Edwards.  Luckily we have, probably, the best OL Coach in the game right now and they seem to be as good as anyone in the league at identifying and drafting OL.   Edited August 13 by SCBills 2 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: mostly because if Cook doesnt have a dominate run OLine in front of him, i dont think he puts up those numbers, and doesnt get paid like this. so sacrificing a top tier OLine because Cook wanted to be overpaid puts the team in a bad spot. has nothing to do with the other skill positions. i dont believe anybody else to be overpaid at the moment.  I actually have a ton of confidence in our development of OL. Beane does well when he has a strong guiding hand on the coaching staff, Aaron Kromer is that on the OL. Much like Sean McDermott is that with DB.  They’ll hit at these spots more often than not because they clearly do a good job collaborating. I’m hoping that Ryan Nielsen becomes the same value for us on the defensive line.  Yes, people can point at the misses like Ford or Elam, but misses are inevitable. I feel very good about those two personnel groups. Edited August 13 by JGMcD2 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: There are about 10-12 people who have been destroying Cook about all of this-not honoring his contract, non Bills DNA, ME player not team player, he’s a distraction, trade him for anything….looking for their responses to this 🤔🤔 I hope they pitch in together and buy my a Cook jersey 1 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 13 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: It seems like a fair deal on face value for both sides, and Cook gets a bit more guaranteed money to hang his hat on. It's not "team friendly" but it isn't outrageous at all.  Signing a player is always a value proposition. Cook has very few snaps on his body compared to similar RBs going into a 2nd year contract, and he's excellent at maximizing his opportunities at the position.  I'm surprised anyone is actually upset with the signing. "Meh" I understand, but being mad that we retained a speedster with a unique ability to run between the tackles very efficiently is wild. How is it not? 4 added to the 1 remaining.  That is 9.6 apv.  30 guaranteed spread over 5 years.  Buffalo will have outs in 2 and 3 years while having no real guaranteed money remaining.  It’s a 5 year deal with Buffalo being able to walk away after 3 or 4 years and create cap space.  Quote
gonzo1105 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: mostly because if Cook doesnt have a dominate run OLine in front of him, i dont think he puts up those numbers, and doesnt get paid like this. so sacrificing a top tier OLine because Cook wanted to be overpaid puts the team in a bad spot. has nothing to do with the other skill positions. i dont believe anybody else to be overpaid at the moment.  I mean I get what you’re saying but the Bills have set themselves up for long term success on the offensive line. Their two tackles are locked in on long term deals. I think the next thing on Beanes to do list is McGovern and now can utilize the franchise tag on him if necessary.  I think they let David Edwards walk after the season but have Alec Anderson ready to go on a cheap deal for either Exwards or McGovern and Grable can either be the primary swing tackle with the capability of him moving inside or pushing Dawkins inside as he ages.  That doesn’t include Lundt who while early, looked impressive in his first action and Sedrick Van Pran who has been a bit of an afterthought because he’s been injured this preseason.  As long as Kromer is here developing these mid to late round guys I don’t have a lot of worry about the OL especially with Allen behind Center 3 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Home run hitter for cheap IMO, great deal overall Quote
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